Oct. 29, 2019 – House of Assembly Proceedings


… THE SPEAKER OF THE NOVA SCOTIA
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY GRANTS PROCEEDINGS OF THE ASSEMBLY AND
ITS COMMITTEES FOR EDUCATIONAL AND RESEARCH PURPOSES AND AS
PROVIDED BELOW. THE VIDEO MAY ONLY BE USED WITH
ITS ORIGINAL AUDIO COMPONENT AND NO OTHER AUDIO OR VIDEO MATERIAL
MAY BE ADDED TO AUDIO OR VIDEO MATERIAL USED.
TELEVISION AND RADIO BROADCASTERS MAY USE RECORDED
EXCERPTS OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN THEIR NEWS OR PUBLIC AFFAIRS
PROGRAM IN BALANCED, FAIR AND ACCURATE REPORTS OF PROCEEDINGS.
NEITHER THE AUDIO NOR THE VIDEO MAY BE USED FOR POLITICAL PARTY
ADVERTISING, ELECTION CAMPAIGNS OR ANY OTHER POLITICALLY
PARTISAN ACTIVITY EXCEPT THAT MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
MAY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF SERVING THEIR CONSTITUENTS, MAKE USE OF
RECORDED EXCERPTS OF THE PROCEEDINGS ON THEIR WEBSITES OR
ON SOCIAL MEDIA IF NOT PRESENTED IN A MISLEADING MANNER AND IF A
LINK IS PROVIDED TO THE FULL PROCEEDING.
NEITHER THE AUDIO NOR THE VIDEO MAY BE USED IN ANY EDITED FORM
THAT COULD MISLEAD OR MISINFORM AN AUDIENCE OR VIEWER OR THAT
DOES NOT PRESENT A BALANCED PORTRAYAL OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN
THE HOUSE. THE AUDIO AND VIDEO MAY NOT BE
USED IN COURT, OR BEFORE A TRIBUNAL OR OTHER BODY, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF QUESTIONING, COMMENTING UPON OR MAKING A
JUDGMENT UPON THE PROCEEDINGS IN THE HOUSE.
ANY OTHER USE OR REBROADCAST OR WEB CAST OF THESE PROCEEDINGS
REQUIRES THE EXPRESS WRITTEN APPROVAL OF THE SPEAKER. SPEAKER. … … … THE SPEAKER OF THE NOVA SCOTIA
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY GRANTS PERMISSION TO RECORD AND USE THE
AUDIO AND VIDEO OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE ASSEMBLY AND
ITS COMMITTEES FOR EDUCATIONAL AND RESEARCH PURPOSES AND AS
PROVIDED BELOW. THE VIDEO MAY ONLY BE USED WITH
ITS ORIGINAL AUDIO COMPONENT AND NO OTHER AUDIO OR VIDEO MATERIAL
MAY BE ADDED TO AUDIO OR VIDEO MATERIAL USED.
TELEVISION AND RADIO BROADCASTERS MAY USE RECORDED
EXCERPTS OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN THEIR NEWS OR PUBLIC AFFAIRS
PROGRAM IN BALANCED, FAIR AND ACCURATE REPORTS OF PROCEEDINGS.
NEITHER THE AUDIO NOR THE VIDEO MAY BE USED FOR POLITICAL PARTY
ADVERTISING, ELECTION CAMPAIGNS OR ANY OTHER POLITICALLY
PARTISAN ACTIVITY EXCEPT THAT MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
MAY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF SERVING THEIR CONSTITUENTS, MAKE USE OF
RECORDED EXCERPTS OF THE PROCEEDINGS ON THEIR WEBSITES OR
ON SOCIAL MEDIA IF NOT PRESENTED IN A MISLEADING MANNER AND IF A
LINK IS PROVIDED TO THE FULL PROCEEDING.
NEITHER THE AUDIO NOR THE VIDEO MAY BE USED IN ANY EDITED FORM
THAT COULD MISLEAD OR MISINFORM AN AUDIENCE OR VIEWER OR THAT
DOES NOT PRESENT A BALANCED PORTRAYAL OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN
THE HOUSE. THE AUDIO AND VIDEO MAY NOT BE
USED IN COURT, OR BEFORE A TRIBUNAL OR OTHER BODY, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF QUESTIONING, COMMENTING UPON OR MAKING A
JUDGMENT UPON THE PROCEEDINGS IN THE HOUSE.
ANY OTHER USE OR REBROADCAST OR WEB CAST OF THESE PROCEEDINGS
REQUIRES THE EXPRESS WRITTEN APPROVAL OF THE SPEAKER. ♪♪ … THE SPEAKER OF THE NOVA SCOTIA
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY GRANTS PERMISSION TO RECORD AND USE THE
AUDIO AND VIDEO OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE ASSEMBLY AND
ITS COMMITTEES FOR EDUCATIONAL AND RESEARCH PURPOSES AND AS
PROVIDED BELOW. THE VIDEO MAY ONLY BE USED WITH ITS ORIGINAL AUDIO COMPONENT AND
NO OTHER AUDIO OR VIDEO MATERIAL MAY BE ADDED TO AUDIO OR VIDEO
MATERIAL USED. TELEVISION AND RADIO
BROADCASTERS MAY USE RECORDED EXCERPTS OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN
THEIR NEWS OR PUBLIC AFFAIRS PROGRAM IN BALANCED, FAIR AND
ACCURATE REPORTS OF PROCEEDINGS. NEITHER THE AUDIO NOR THE VIDEO
MAY BE USED FOR POLITICAL PARTY ADVERTISING, ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
OR ANY OTHER POLITICALLY PARTISAN ACTIVITY EXCEPT THAT
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY MAY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF SERVING
THEIR CONSTITUENTS, MAKE USE OF RECORDED EXCERPTS OF THE
PROCEEDINGS ON THEIR WEBSITES OR ON SOCIAL MEDIA IF NOT PRESENTED
IN A MISLEADING MANNER AND IF A LINK IS PROVIDED TO THE FULL
PROCEEDING. NEITHER THE AUDIO NOR THE VIDEO
MAY BE USED IN ANY EDITED FORM THAT COULD MISLEAD OR MISINFORM
AN AUDIENCE OR VIEWER OR THAT DOES NOT PRESENT A BALANCED
PORTRAYAL OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN THE HOUSE.
THE AUDIO AND VIDEO MAY NOT BE USED IN COURT, OR BEFORE A
TRIBUNAL OR OTHER BODY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF QUESTIONING,
COMMENTING UPON OR MAKING A JUDGMENT UPON THE PROCEEDINGS IN
THE HOUSE. ANY OTHER USE OR REBROADCAST OR
WEB CAST OF THESE PROCEEDINGS REQUIRES THE EXPRESS WRITTEN
APPROVAL OF THE SPEAKER. THE SPEAKER OF THE NOVA SCOTIA
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY GRANTS ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ .
♪♪ A .
The Speaker: WE’LL BEGIN WITH THE DAILY
ROUTINE. BEGINNING WITH PRESENTING AND READING OF
PETITIONS. HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I BEG LEAVE TO A
PETITION ENTITLED WE THE UNDERSIGNED, CLAUSE OF WHICH WE
THE UNDERSIGNED CALL ON THE GOVERNMENT OF NOVA SCOTIA TO
TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THE DARTMOUTH LAKES BY EXERCISING
ITS LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY OVER WATER RESOURCES, INCLUDING
LAKES, PROVIDING PROVINCIAL OVERSIGHT AND LEADERSHIP. THE
HEALTH OF THESE NATURAL RESOURCES AND RECREATIONAL AND
ECONOMIC ASSETS OF THE DARTMOUTH COMMUNITY. WORKING WITH THE
HALIFAX REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY TO INCLUDE IMPROVED LAKE
SIGNATURES AFFIXED. I AFFIXED MY NAME, AS WELL.
The Speaker: PETITION IS TABLED. HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR
SACKVILLE COBEQUID.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
BEG LEAVE TO TABLE A PETITION WITH THE OPERATIVE CLAUSE BEING
WE THE UNDERSIGNED CALL ON THE PROVINCE OF NOVA SCOTIA TO
ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSINGS FOR SENIORS
AND FOR RESIDENTS OF FIXED INCOME IN SACKVILLE. THIS
PETITION HAS A TOTAL OF 343 SIGNATURES. AND I HAVE AFFIXED
MY OWN. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. The Speaker: PETITION IS
TABLED. HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR COLE HARBOUR EASTERN PASSAGE.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. BEG TO TABLE A PETITION
WITH THE CLAUSE BEING WE THE UNDERSIGNED REQUEST THE
GOVERNMENT OF NOVA SCOTIA AND IN PARTICULAR THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMIT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE
CONSTITUENCY OF COLE HARBOUR AND EASTERN PASSAGE. FUNDING FOR A
HEALTH CENTRE. WE REQUEST THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
COMMIT TO RESIDENTS OF COLE AND EASTERN
PASSAGE, OUR REGION BE GIVEN PRIORITY FOR THE CREATION OF THE
NEXT HEALTH CENTRE IN NOVA SCOTIA. I HAVE AFFIXED MY
SIGNATURE AS PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE HOUSE.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: PETITION IS
TABLED. HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR COLE HARBOUR EASTERN PASSAGE.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THERE ARE 1249 SIGNATURES.
The Speaker: FOR DARTMOUTH NORTH.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I BEG LEAVE TO INTRODUCE A
PETITION. OPERATIVE CLAUSE IS FOLLOWS, WE REQUEST THE PROVINCE
INITIATE THE VISION ZERO APPROACH TO IDENTIFY PROVINCIAL
LAWS WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO UNSAFE ROAD CONDITIONS FOR VULNERABLE
ROAD USERS, AND LAWS THAT WILL REDUCE DANGERS. WE REQUEST THE
PROVINCE INITIATE THE VISION ZERO ROAD SAFETY STRATEGY WHICH
USES EVIDENCE TO DETERMINE COMMON CAUSES OF INCIDENTS. THE
STRATEGY SHOULDEVIDENCE-BASED SUITABLE AND PROVIDE A BUDGET
FOR THEIR DEPLOYMENT. THERE ARE 21 SIGNATURES. I HAVE AFFIXED
MY OWN. THANK YOU. The Speaker: PETITION IS
TABLED. PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES? REPORTS,
AND OTHER PAPERS? AS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF
ASSEMBLY PURSUANT TO SECTION 18.4 OF THE AUDITOR GENERAL, THE
AUDITOR’S GENERAL FOR OCTOBER 2019.REPORT IS TABLED.
STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS. GOVERNMENT NOTICES
OF MOTION. THE HONOURABLE I DO AN INTRODUCTION.
The Speaker: GRANTED.>> ALFRED WORKED FOR SEVERAL
ORGANIZATIONS IN HALIFAX TO ENSURE THAT YOUNG NOVA SCOTIANS
CAN GROW AND THRIVE HERE AND TO MAKE SURE THEIR VOICES ARE
AROUND THE TABLE. I WOULDALFRED TO RISE TO RECEIVE THE
WARM WELCOME 69 HOUSE. [APPLAUSE]
– HOUSE. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE I MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THE
FOLLOWING RESOLUTION. ALFRED MOVED WITH HIS FAMILY FROM
AT TO CREATE YOUTH
ORGANIZATIONS ORGANIZATIONS ADDRESSING SOCIAL
AND ECONOMIC ISSUES, SUCH AS HFX COLLECTIVE AND HALIFAX SOCIAL
NETWORK. ASSURES OUR PROVINCE IS A PLACE NOVEMBERENS CAN
THRIVE. ALFRED WAS O.P.P.ED SERVE ON THE PRIME —
APPOINTED TO SERVE ON THE PRIME MINISTER’S YOUTH COUNCIL,
ISSUES AND CHALLENGES FACING THEIR COMMUNITIES. ALL MEMBERS
OF THIS HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING ALFRED ON
HIS APPOINTMENT TO THE YOUTH COUNCIL, AS WELL ASHIM FOR THE
IMPACT HE’S HAD ON NOVA SCOTIA. EXAMPLE
HE IS FOR ALL NOVA SCOTIANS IN OUR PROVINCE, MR.
SPEAKER. I ASK FOR WAIVER OF NOTICE AND PASSAGE WITHOUT
DEBATE. The Speaker: IS IT AGREED?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION SAY “AYE.”
>>AYE. The Speaker: CONTRARY MINDED
“NAY.” THE MOTION IS CARRIED. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER HEALTH AND WELLNESS.>>THANK YOU, MR. I
LEAVE TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION.
The Speaker: PERMISSION GRANTED.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. DRAW MY COLLEAGUES’ ATTENTION TO THE
EAST GALLERY. MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE AMANDA DEAN, THE
VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE INSURANCE BUREAU OF CANADA, OF CANADA.
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS MANAGER WITH THE INSURANCE BUREAU OF
CANADA, RITA,COORDINATOR AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH AND WELLNESS. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ATLANTIC
COLLABORATIVE FOR INJURY PREVENTION. THESE GUESTS ARE
SOME OF THE MANY PEOPLE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO RAISE AWARENESS
AND BUILD PARTNERSHIPS, SHARE KNOWLEDGE FOR NOVA SCOTIAS AND
ALL ATLANTIC CANADIANS. MR. SPEAKER, I ASK THEY ALL RISE AND
THE WARM WELCOMEHOUSE. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
HEALTH AND WELLNESS.>>MR. SPEAKER, I GIVE NOTICE ON
A FUTURE DAY I SHALL MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THE FOLLOWING
RESOLUTION: WHEREAS PREVENTIBLE INJURES HAVE AN IMPACT ON NOVA
SCOTIANS AND HEALTH-CARE SYSTEM, WHEREAS THE MAJORITY OF INJURIES
ARE PREVENTIBLE, WHEREAS THE ATLANTIC COLLABORATIVE ON INJURY
PREVENTION, COMMUNITY AGAINST PREVENTIBLE INJURIES AND OTHER
PARTNERS RECENTLY LAUNCHED A CAMPAIGN TO HELP CHANGE
ATTITUDES AND BEHAVIOURS AROUND PREVENTIBLE INJURIES. THEREFORE
BE IT RESOLVED ALL MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE RECOGNIZE
PREVENTSABLE INJURIES AS A SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE AND COMMEND
THE EFFORTS OF PARTNERS IN RAISING AWARENESS AND WORKING TO
MINIMIZE PREVENTIBLE INJURIES AT HOME, AT WORK, ON THE ROAD AND
AT PLAY. MR. SPEAKER, I REQUEST WAIVER NOTICE AND PASSAGE
DEBATE. The Speaker: WAIVER.
AGREED? ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION SAY “AYE.”
>>”NAY.” THE MOTION IS CARRIED.
[APPLAUSE] –
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF FISHERIES AND AQUA
CULTURE.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
GIVE NOTICE ON A FUTURE DAY I SHALL MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THE
FOLLOWING RESOLUTION. NOVA SCOTIA FISHERIES AND AQUA
CULTURE BOARD, A FINANCIAL, STABLE AND
SUSTAINABLE FISHERY SPACE IN NOVA SCOTIA. AND WHEREAS FOR
MANY YEARS, THE FISHING INDUSTRY HAS BEEN SEEKING IMPROVEMENTS TO
THE LOAN BOARD PROGRAMS, MORE STREAMLINE PROCESSENED PROCESSES
FEES. RESPONDED TO
TO OFFER NEW LOAN PRODUCTS. LOWER INTEREST
RATES, LOWER SERVICE FEES, AND SHORTER PROCESSING TIMES FOR
LARGE LOANS AND LONGER AMORTIZATION REQUESTS.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY RECOGNIZE AN
IMPROVED NOVA SCOTIA FISHERIES LOAN AND AQUA CULTURE LOAN BOARD
NOW HAS RECORD NUMBER OF CLIENTS HELPED RECORD $2 BILLION
PLUS IN 2018. MR. SPEAKER, I ASK WAIVER
OF NOTICE AND PASSAGE WITHOUT DEBITE.
The Speaker: REQUEST FOR WAIVER. AGREED? ALL THOSE IN
FAVOUR OF THE MOTION SAY “AYE.”>>AYE.
The Speaker: CONTRARY MINDED “NAY.” MOTION IS CARRIED.
[APPLAUSE] OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS
ON AN INTRODUCTION.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ATTENTION TO YOUR GALLERY WHERE WE HAVE TODAY SOME SPECIAL
GUESTS FROM ANTIGONISH. I ASK THEY RISE AS I RECOGNIZE THEM.
JEFF, THE DIRECTOR OF THE CANADIAN ASSOCIATION FOR
IN ANTIGONISH. ALL AROUND GREAT GUY. GARY, AN ENTREPRENEUR AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO HEARING OF GARY’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT ARE GOING
TO BE SHARED WITH THE HOUSE IN A MOMENT. I BELIEVE IS AN
ARM WRESTLING LOWER SACKVILLE, AS WELL. IF THEY
COULD, COLLEAGUES, PLEASE GIVE THEM A WARM WELCOME.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER COMMUNITY, CULTURE HERITAGE.
>>MR. SPEAKER, GIVE NOTICE ON A FUTURE DAY I SHALL MOVE THE
ADOPTION OF THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION. HAS AN ABUNDANCE OF
SPORT AND OPPORTUNITIES,
ARM WRESTLING WHICH EVOLVED OVER YEARS INTO A
FUN, TECHNICAL AND COMPETITIVE WELL KNOWN AND FAVOURITE SPORT.
AND WHEREAS WITH A LOT OF DETERMINATION, HARD WORK AND
PRACTICE, GARY CAL HAS BECOME ONE OF THE BEST ARM WRESTLERS
OUR PROVINCE HAS SEEN EARNING HIMSELF THE TITLE OFMEN’S
WRESTLING CHAMPION. WHEREAS GARY WILL TRAVELLING
TO POLAND THIS DECEMBER TO COMPETE AT THE WORLD
CHAMPIONSHIPS. I HAVE NO DOUBT HE WILL MAKE US ALL VERY PROUD.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED ALL MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
CONGRATULATE GARY FOR HIS EXPENSE IN THE SPORT OF ARM
WRESTLING. WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK AS HE REPRESENTS OUR
COUNTRY ON THE WORLD STAGE. REQUEST REQUEST FOR WAIVER,
PASSAGE WITHOUT DEBATE. The Speaker: REQUEST FOR
WAIVER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION SAY “AYE.”
>>AYE. The Speaker: CONTRARY MINDED
“NAY.” IS CARRIED. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
HEREBY NOTICE A FUTURE DAY MOVE ADOPTION OF THE
FOLLOWING RESOLUTION. WHEREAS MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE
PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ENHANCE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS DEDICATED MAYORS, WARDENS, COUNCILLORS,
STAFF ESSENTIAL FOR THE EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE OF
MUNICIPALITIES. AND WHEREAS CITIZEN INVOLVEMENTCOMMITTEES IS
ALSO ESSENTIAL FOR AN COMMUNITY AND WE
SCOTIA TO PARTICIPATE. THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED AS NOVEMBER 17th TO 23 IS MUNICIPAL AWARENESS WEEK,
ALL OF THIS HOUSE RECOGNIZE THE ROLE OF MUNICIPAL
GOVERNMENT ALL SUPPORT IT. I REQUEST FOR WAIVER.
The Speaker: WAIVER. AGREED.
>>AGREED. The Speaker: “AYE.”
>>AYE. The Speaker: “NAY.” THE
MOTION CARRIED. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF SERVICES.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
LEAVE TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION.
The Speaker: PERMISSION GRANTED.
>>I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW MY COLLEAGUES’ ATTENTION TO THE
EAST GALLERY. WE ARE JOINED BY SPECIAL GUESTS GUESTS. EXECUTE THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR AND FUN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR. I HAD VISIT TO
FARM. I MEMBERS OFHOUSE JOIN ME IN GIVING OUR
GUESTS A WARM WELCOME. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF SERVICES.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
HEREBY GIVE THAT ONFUTURE I MOVE THE
DOONGS OF THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION. BONNIE FARM WAS
FOUNDED TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WITH OPPORTUNITIES
TO MEANINGFUL AND PRODUCTIVE LIVES WITHIN THEIR
COMMUNITY. WHEREAS TODAY BONNIE LEE FARM OFFERS A VARIETY OF
PROGRAMS SERVICES – THAT EMPOWER LIFE SKILLS, OVERCOME
BARRIERS TO EMPLOYMENT. ACCESS INDEPENDENT LIVING. ENSURING
PROGRAMMING IS FOCUSED ON EACH PARTICIPANT AND DESIGNED TO
SUPPORT EACH ONE IN REACHING THEIR POTENTIAL. THEREFORE
IT RESOLVED MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE JOIN ME IN THANKING
BONNIE LEE FARM FOR THEIR ROLE PROVIDED GOES NOVA SCOTIANS
WITH DIVERSE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN, GROW AND SUCCEED IN
COMMUNITY. MR. SPEAKER, I ASK FOR WAIVER OF NOTICE AND
PASSAGEOUT DEBATE. The Speaker: WAIVER.
AGREED?>>AGREED.
The Speaker: ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION SAY “AYE.”
>>AYE. The Speaker: “NAY”? THE
MOTION CARRIED. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: MINISTER OF
ACADIAN AFFAIRS ON INTRODUCTION.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
[SPEAKING FRENCH]>>IF THEIN THE GALLERY EAST, WE
HAVE 21 GRADE SEVEN STUDENTS FROM
ECOLE SCHOOL. THEY ARE
ACCOMPANIED TODAY, THEIR WONDERFUL EXCELLENT TEACHER,
MADAME. WITH MR. DAVID RICHARDSON. I WILL READ ALL 21
AND ASK THEM STAND. [READING NAMES OF STUDENTS] ]
READING NAMES OF STUDENTS] [FRENCH SPEAKING]>> COME TO OUR
LEGISLATURE TO LEARN, TO GET A GUIDE, TOUR IN ANDLEARN ABOUT
OUR LEGISLATURE. I ASK ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE
THEM THE WARM WELCOME OF THE HOUSE.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: WE’LL MOVE ON
TO INTRODUCTION OF BILLS. THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.>>I LEAVE INTRODUCE A
ENTITLED AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 260 OF THE 1989 THE
LIQUOR CONTROL ACT. [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL BEGS LEAVE TO
INTRODUCE A BILL ENTITLED AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 260 OF THE
STATUTES 1989. THE LIQUOR CONTROL ACT.
The Clerk: BILL 217, AN ACT TO AMEND 260 OF THE REVISED
STATUTES 1989. THE LIQUOR ACT.
The Speaker: ODD THIS BILL BE READ A TIME ON A
DAY. THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SIDNEY
RIVER-MIRA-LOUISBOURG.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. A
BILL ENTITLED AN ACT TO INDEPENDENCE OF STUDENT UNIONS.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBERRIVER-MIRA-LOUISBOURG BEGS LEAVE
TO A ENTITLED ,” AN ACT PRESERVE THE
INDEPENDENCE OF STUDENT UNIONS. The Clerk: BILL 218, AN ACT
TO PRESERVE THE INDEPENDENCE OF STUDENT UNIONS.
The Speaker: ORDERED THIS BILL BE READ A SECOND ONFUTURE
DAY. WE’LL MOVE ONNOTICES OF MOTION.
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS. THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR CLARE-DIGBY.>>I BEG LEAVE TO DO AN
INTRODUCTION. The Speaker: PERMISSION
GRANTED.>> LIKE BRING THE
ATTENTION OF THE HOUSE TO THE EAST GALLERY WHERE JOINED
HERE TODAY BY GROUP OF GRADE NINE STUDENTS FROM A LOCAL
SCHOOL. STUDENTS ARE ACCOMPANIED BY A TEACHER AND
ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY’RE HERE TO LOBBYGOVERNMENT
ON BEHALF OF THEIR GROUP ON BILINGUAL SIGNS. I
IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SIEVINGS LESSON IN HOW
GOVERNMENT WORKS — CIVICS LESSONS HOW WORKS AND
HOW THEY CAN WORK WITH GOVERNMENT, VERY STUDENTS
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE. I COMMEND THEM.
I’M HAVE THEM HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM,
THEIR TEACHER, PHIL. WE ALSO HAVE NATALIE. THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF SOCIETY ACADIAN. OUR STUDENTS [NAMING STUDENTS]:
I WOULD LIKE BRING THE
APPLAUSE AND ATTENTION AND THE THE HOUSE OF HAVING
THEM HERE TO ALL THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. BEG
LEAVE TO MAKEINTRODUCTION. The Speaker: PERMISSION
GRANTED.>>JOINING US IN THE GALLERY
OPPOSITE TODAY ARE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING AN
EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT OUT OF AUTISM NOVA SCOTIA. AUTISTIC.
STAND AS I READ YOUR NAME. EDITOR, PATRICIA, CONTRIBUTOR
HUGH. DAVID PATTERSON, REGIONAL AUTISM COORDINATOR AUTISM
COORDINATOR. BRIAN ARE, ER,C.E.O. OF AUTISM. IF I DID
NOT INTRODUCE MY EXTENDED FAMILY.
HUGH’S PARENTS, AND JEFF, HIS SISTER, VEER ARIZONA.
VERA – VERA. MY FATHER-IN-LAW. I ASK YOU
JOIN ME – I YOU TO ME IN WELCOMING THEM.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR.
SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF AUTISM NOVA
SCOTIA’S LONGEST RUNNING INITIATIVES. AUTISTIC. TO
CONGRATULATE THEM ON THE RELEASE OF EDITION ONE IN THE LIFE SPAN
SERIES. AUTISTICS LOUD IS A GRASSROOTS PUBLICATION WHICH
WILL HANDED OUT TO MANY MEMBERS PROVIDE THE
PLATFORM FOR AUTISTIC CANADIANS TO SHARE A FIRST VOICE
PERSPECTIVE. AS THE NAME LIFE SPANS IMPLIES, CONTRIBUTORS ARE
CHILDREN, TEENAGERS, ADULTS AND SENIORS SHARED THEIR VISION
FOR AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. MY 10-YEAR-OLD NEPHEW IS THE
YOUNGEST CONTRIBUTOR AND AN EDITOR THAT PROVIDE
PERSPECTIVES. AUTISM NOVA SCOTIA WILL PUBLISH NINE FOR
EDITIONS THAT WILL EXPLORE THEMES SUCH HEALTH,
SEXUALITY AND HOUSING THROUGH AUTISTIC LENS. COPY OF THE
MAGAZINE IN FRONT OF YOU IS YOURS TO CELEBRATE SHARE. I
ASK AGAIN THAT WE CELEBRATE THESE FOLKS CLAPPING. THANK
YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR FAIRVIEW CLAYTON
PARK.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
BEG LEAVE FOR INTRODUCTION. The Speaker: PERMISSION
GRANTED.>>EAST GALLERY WE JOINED BY
A FAMOUS CONSTITUENTMINE, WAYNE LITTLE, ALONG WITH
HIS SHARON, HIS MOM FLORENCE AND MATT. ASK THEM
TO RAISE RECEIVE THE WARM WELCOME OF HOUSE.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR FAIRVIEW CLAYTON PARK.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TO CELEBRATE A WELL
KNOWN CONSTITUENT OF FAIRVIEW CLAYTON PARK. MANY RECOGNIZE
FROM SHOPPERS DRUG MART ON JOSEPH HOWE DRIVE. WAYNE IT’S,
PHARMACIST AND MY REMINDER TO GET A FLU SHOT WAS BORNRAISED IN
ST. JOHN’S, NEWFOUNDLAND. WAYNE GRADUATED
THE ATLANTIC IN 1982. OWNED SHOPPERS FOR OVER TEN
YEARS. PROVIDES ON A DAILY BASIS. WAYNE LEADS A
HEALTH LIFE-STYLE. SEPTEMBER 25 SEPTEMBER 25th, WORLD
PHARMACIST DAY, I LIKE TO THANK AND CELEBRATE WAYNE WITH
CARE AND ADVICE TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR PICTOU WEST.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. RISE TODAY TO CONGRATULATE
RONALD HIS THIRD OLYMPIC RACE WIN AT THE TRIATHLON. HE
FINISHED THE RACE IN TWO HOURS SIX MINUTES AND TWO
BEATING OPPONENT BY ALMOST SIX MINUTES. THE CONSISTS
A 1.5 KILOMETRE SWIMMING, 40 KILOMETRE RIDE AND SO
RUN. RACEOCCURRED IN THE OF A HEAT
WAVE THIS YEAR MAKING EVENT EVEN CHALLENGING. ADMIRE
FOR DEDICATION TO FINANCES AND LOVE FOR COMPETING
IN SUCH AN RACE. I HOPE TO BE ABLE WATCH RYAN
CONTINUE TO SUCCEED SOMETHING HE ENJOYS SO MUCH. ACHIEVE
AN INCREDIBLE TIME IN OLYMPIC RACE IS PROUD
OF. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, BEG LEAVE MAKE
INTRODUCTION. The Speaker: PERMISSION
GRANTED.>>IN GALLERY OPPOSITE, I
LIKE TO DRAW THE MEMBERS’ THE HARD WORKING
THE FOUNDATION. JOINED BY MURPHY, SKINNER
TWO OF THEIR COLLEAGUES NAMES I DON’T HAVE FRONT OF
ME. STAND ENJOY THE WARM WELCOME OF HOUSE.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: MEMBER FOR
DARTMOUTH SOUTH.>> SPEAKER. I
LIKE TO RECOGNIZECONTRIBUTIONS OF MY FRIEND AND
MURPHY. LAUREN ISMANAGER OF INTERNSHIPS ATQUEEN FOUNDATION.
AND HER TEAM COMPLETED EIGHTH SEASON
OF THE INTERNSHIP
PUTTING STUDENTS POSITIONS THE PROVINCE. 51 WERERURAL
OUTSIDE OF AND 43 INTERNS REPRESENTED
UNDERSERVED POPULATIONSSCOTIA. PROGRAM ISSTRONGLY SUPPORTED BY
VARIOUS GOVERNMENTDEPARTMENTS,
ENVIRONMENT, LAE, ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS, AND – ENERGY AND MINES.
INDIGENOUS CANADA. LAUREN AND HER THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S SCIENCE HORIZONS PROGRAM, WAGE SUBSIDIES
INTERNSHIPS IN THE CLEAN ACROSS THE COUNTRY. –
CLEAN. SECURED POSITIONS NEARLY GRADUATES,
INCLUDING 37 IN NOVA SCOTIA. SITS ON THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SHE BECOME A FORCE
IN CREATING FOR YOUTH IN CLEAN ECONOMY WHICH
VITAL TO OUR FUTURE IN NOVA SCOTIA. JOIN ME IN CELEBRATING
LAUREN’S ACHIEVEMENTS SHE PRESSES ON.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR COLCHESTER NORTH.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE
PROGRAM STARTED IN 2009 PART OF WILSON’SYEAR
CELEBRATIONS. SCHOLARSHIPS AWARDED TO
THOSE ACHIEVED SUCCESSSCHOOL, VOLUNTEERING OR THE ARTS.
PERMANENT WAS ADDED MEMORY JONATHAN
MacINTYRE, TIME EMPLOYEE OF WILSON’S IN A TRAGIC
ACCIDENT. YEAR LINDA THE APPLICATIONSSELECTS THE
RECIPIENT OFSCHOLARSHIPS IN SON’S
MEMORY. 2019 RECIPIENT OF MacINTYRE SCHOLARSHIPHAYLEY
SPENCER. HAYLEY HASA PART-TIME THE
STATION. HAYLEY GRADUATED FROM EDUCATION CENTRE IN TRURO.
STUDYING AT ACADIA. SHE IS ENROLLED IN KINESIOLOGYPLANS TO
BECOME TEACHER. ATHLETE EXCELLED AT SOFT
BALL HOCKEY. SHE IN THE REBUILDING OF
LOCAL BALL FIELD, ENJOYEDBALL AROUND PROVINCE.
HER ACT ACADEMIC ABILITIES,
HAYLEY, WE HER SUCCESS, CONGRATULATIONS REWARDING
AHEAD. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER QUEENS SHELBURNE.
>> SPEAKER. FEW PEOPLE IN LIVERPOOL RECOGNIZE THE NAME
JIHOO. TO HELP OUT AND COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS KEVIN GOES THE
MILE. KEVIN PARTICIPATED IN THE WALKALZHEIMER’S
FUNDRAISER. WITH KIND HEART AND DETERMINATION, EFFORTS
RAISED THE SUM OF $505, ALMOST HALF OF THE ENTIRE AMOUNT
RAISED. MR. SPEAKER,PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE AND
CONGRATULATE KEVIN ON HIS FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN. HIM
FOR ALL THAT HE DOES AS A VOLUNTEER IN COMMUNITY.
THANKS, MR. SPEAKER.
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH NORTH.
>>JULY 26th, OCEAN BREEZE RESIDENT WOKE UP TO HATEFUL
HOMOPHOBIC SLURS ONOUTSIDE APARTMENT. ACT WAS MADE AS IT
TOOK DURING PRIDE MONTH IN THE
HRM. DARTMOUTH NORTHPOSTED PICTURE SOCIAL
MEDIA. WENT VIRAL. WHEN FORMER ON OR ABOUT BREEZE RESIDENT, SAW PO TURNED
IN BEAUTIFUL SLOL OF “BEAUTIFUL SHOWRESILIENCE.
MARCHED OCEAN BREEZEGATHERED IN FRONT OF
APARTMENT. BARBECUE PARTY FOLLOWED. RISE TO EXPRESS MY
GRATITUDE TO JASON,ORGANIZERS AND WHO ATTENDED
THE STROLL THROUGH OCEAN BREEZE IS ROOMHATE, HOMOPHOBIC IN
DARTMOUTH NORTH. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR CLAYTON PARK WEST.
>>THANK SPEAKER. I LIKE I BEG LEAVEMAKE
INTRODUCTION. The Speaker: PERMISSION
GRANTED.>>WE HAVE WITH US HERE, AMAZING
CA, WITH ME FOR 15 MONTHS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIMEINTRODUCE
HER OFFICIALLY AT THE HOUSE. WELCOME HER. SHE HAS
AN AMAZING COMPETENT, COMPASSIONATE AND I DON’T KNOW
HOW MORE WORK THIS WITH MANY CAN DO. ACHIEVED SO
THANKS TO THE ADDITION TO CLAYTON WEST OFFICE.
MLA OFFICE. HER, AS WELL, GAIL, CASUAL STAFF. BOTH ARE
THE BEST TEAM. I WHEN I SAY YOU SURROUND YOURSELF
INTELLIGENT, STRONG WOMEN, YOU CAN MUCH MORE. THANK
YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER PRESTON DARTMOUTH.
>>THANK SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I LIKE TO
RECOGNIZE SIMMONS, A FILMMAKER, ARTIST, WRITER, PEER
SUPPORT WORKER ENTREPRENEUR. FROM NORTH PRESTON. HE USES
TALENTS TO INSPIRE OTHERS. A PUBLIC SPEAKER FILMMAKER
ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, REMINDS
PEOPLE THAT RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE. HE IS THE FINALIST IN
THE 2019GRG, – -J-R-G PRESENTED AT JRG SOCIETY FOR
ARTS AWARDS IN HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA, ON OCTOBER 16th THIS
YEAR. I RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE TYLER SIMMONS
ACHIEVING THIS HIGH LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM ADVOCATING
THOSE ILLNESS AND WISH EVERY IN
THE FUTURE. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND NORTH.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. RISE TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE
THE FORESTRY SECTOR IN CUMBERLAND NORTH. LIKE TO
HONOUR ONE OF OUR THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY, MR. CARTER.
DARREN CARTER STARTED GOING TO WOODS WITH HIS FATHER WHEN
HE WAS 12 OLD. AT 16 STARTED RUNNING. STARTED HIS
OWN BUSINESS. IN 1988, 34 YEARS LATER, DARREN CARTER HAS 20
EMPLOYEES AND WORKING 13 MACHINES. HIS FORESTRY BUSINESS
CUTS AN AVERAGE OF 125,000 TONNES A YEAR. REVENUE LAST
FISCAL YEAR OVER TO HIS ASSETS ALONE WOULD
BE OVER 9 MILLION. HE HAS GROWN HIS BUSINESS WITH THE INTENT TO
HAVE TWO OF HIS SONS TAKE IT OVER. MR. SPEAKER, PLEASE JOIN
ME IN RECOGNIZING THIS IMPORTANT FORESTER, DARREN CARTER, HIS
FAMILY AND EMPLOYEES, AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ECONOMY IN
CUMBERLAND NORTH. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
>>AS WE APPROACH THE END OF MI’KMAW HISTORY MONTH, I WANT TO
PUBLISHING LOCATED IN HALIFAX NEEDHAM AND REBECCA
ON THE FIRST BOOK. FINDING TALK. A RESPONSE TO THE
ICONIC TONE BY I LOST MY TALK LOSING HER LANGUAGE WHILE
RESIDENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL. FINDING MY IS
BEING TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 30th, WITH
A CELEBRATION AT THE OPEN BOOK CAFE ON STRAWBERRY HILL DRIVE.
CONJUNCTION WITH RELEASE OF A NEW ILLUSTRATED CHILDREN’S
BOOK EDITION OF I MY TALK, BOOKS ARE ILLUSTRATED BY
MI’KMAW ARTIST PAULINE. LANGUAGE CARRIES CULTURE. THE
RESURGENCE OF THE MI’KMAW LANGUAGE IS A REASON TO
CELEBRATE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HANTS EAST.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. RISE IN MY PLACE TO CELEBRATE,
WHO ARRIVED IN NOVA SCOTIA IN OCTOBER OF 2016 FROM
SYRIA. HE STUDIED AT THE INTERNATIONAL CENTRE IN SYRIA.
MAKING SOMETHING MORE CUSTOM FIT OR MENDING CANOPIES. FOR HIM NO
IS BIG OR SMALL. HIS WORK IS PROFESSIONAL, TIDY
COMPLETED A TIMELY FASHION WITH SYRIAN FLAIR. HIS
COUSIN OF A TAILOR SHOP HAS ENCOURAGED THE FAMILY TO GET
SETTLED IN CANADA. ALSO ASSISTED GETTING TAILORING
OPENED. HE IS THANKFUL TO THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE
HIM, SUPPORTED ALONG THE WAY OF GETTING THE TAILOR
SHOP UP AND RUNNING. HIS ENGLISH IS IMPROVING EVERY DAY,
IT’S A WORK INEXPRESSES HIS GRATITUDE.
WELCOME SMILE AND THANK AS YOU WALK IN SHOP.
MR. SPEAKER, HE IS THANKFUL TO BE IN CANADA AS WE ARE TOHIM.
HE LOVES THE PEOPLE. THE FRIENDLINESS,
WORK. CULTURE. SEASONS, MOSTLY HIS SONEXPERIENCE A
HEALTHY LIFE AND GET EDUCATION AND BE WANTS TO
BE. FOR MOVING TO CANADA. WEHIM. THANK
YOU, MR. SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY TO
CONGRATULATE AND THANK ALLEN SHEPHERD IN HIS FIGHT AGAINST
BEACH POLLUTION. ADVOCATE SHORELINE IS KNOWN AS THE
CAPITAL. WITH DRIFTWOOD COMES GARBAGE THAT
COMES DAILY. MR. SHEPHERD HAS FULL DUMPSTERS. JOIN
ME IN THANKING ALLEN FOR HIS AND DEDICATION AND SERVICE
TO CLEANING UP BEACHES. MAY ADD, CHECK OUTFACEBOOK. HE
IS A SPECTACULAR PHOTOGRAPHER, AS WELL. THANK
YOU, MR. SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR CHESTER-ST. MARGARET’S.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. RISE TODAY TO RECOGNIZE COLLETT
AND STERLING GATES. THE HOUSE OF THE 2019 CANADIAN HORSE
DEMONSTRATION THISSEPTEMBER. MANY DO NOT REALIZE
THAT THE CANADIAN HORSE WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE DESIGNATED
HORSE BREED CANADA BY PARLIAMENT IN ORIGINALLY
INTRODUCED AMERICA IN 1665 BY THE OF FRANCE FROM
HIS OWN STABLES, THE BREED BECAME IN DANGER OF
DISAPPEARING. DEDICATED HORSE LOVES SAVED THE BREED KNOWN
QUALITIES OF GREAT STRENGTH ENDURANCE, RESILIENCE,
INTELLIGENCE, AND GOOD TEMPER. COLLETT AND STERLING CONTINUED
THIS TRADITION AS LEADING MEMBERS OF THE HORSE BREEDERS
DIVISION. MR. SPEAKER, I INVITE MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING CONGRATULATING
COLLETT AND STERLING OF McGUINESS FARM, HORSE
ASSOCIATION, CANADIAN HORSE ITSELF ON A WONDERFUL EVENT.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
[APPLAUSE]>>GAELIC COMMUNITY FOR THE
MINISTER’S COUNCIL ON EDUCATION. THOUSANDS OF YOUNG NOVA SCOTIANS
WANT TO THE HISTORY AND OF THEIR PEOPLE IN
SCHOOL. YOUNG FROM THE INSIGHT OF MR. SEAMUS
McDONALD. REPRESENT OF PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT WHO THEY ARE.
THIS IS TRUE MATTERS OF LANGUAGE, HISTORY AND CULTURE.
WE KNOW HISTORY CONTAIN INTERPRETATION. MATTERS CAN BE
LEFT OUT TO SUIT ONE GROUP OR ANOTHER. LOCAL LANGUAGE
DIALECTS AND TRADITION. FROM THE INSIGHTS. I WANT TO
THANK DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION FOR THE GOOD WORK THEY
HAVE DOING OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS TO BRING GALIC
LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES TO STUDENTS. WISH MR. McDONALD
SUCCESS TO ENJOY DISCOVERY OF LEARNING MORE ABOUT THEIR
PEOPLE THEMSELVES. [APPLAUSE] [SPEAKING IN GALIC] ] SPEAKING
IN GAELIC] [APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBERSHORE-TRACADIE.>>MR. SPEAKER, I RISE TODAY IN
RECOGNITION THE HANDS-ON HISTORY PROGRAM RUN BY HISTORIC
VILLAGE, GRADE SIX STUDENTS FROM DUNCAN McMILLAN SCHOOL IN
SHEET PARTICIPATED IN THIS SUMMER. THE SHERBROOKE
VILLAGE INVITEYOUNG AND OLD TO PARTICIPATE IN
VILLAGE LIFE BY OFFERING A HANDS-ON, INTERACTIVE
EDUCATIONAL AND FUN EXPERIENCE. LED BY THEIR TEACHER, THE
STUDENTS WORE PERIOD CLOTHING WHAT IT LIKE TO
LIVE IN 1867, PARTICIPATE BEING IN TRIP BACK IN TIME WERE LYDIA,
BREA, SAVANNAH, KIERA, REILLY,
CARRIE ROBERTS, BRADEN, CEETEN, CODY, JACOB OWEN AND ALANA ALONG
WITH THEIR TEACHER AND PARENT CHAPERONES. THE SPENT
CARRYING WOOD, BAKING COOKIES, MAKING WOOD TOYS. I
WOULD LIKE COMMEND THE DUNCAN McMILLAN GRADE SIX STUDENTS TO
THANK VILLAGE FOR PROVIDING PROGRAM. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: MEMBER FOR COLE
HARBOUR EASTERN PASSAGE.
>>I RISE TO ACKNOWLEDGE COLE HARBOUR AND EASTERN PASSAGE
IMPROVE LIVES EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. WERE KNOWS,
WE ARE THE ONLY CONSTITUENCY IN NOVA SCOTIA NOT HAVE A
SINGLE FAMILY DOCTOR OR MENTAL HEALTH CARE OR PAEDIATRIC CARE.
TODAY ON BEHALF ALLCONSTITUENTS OF MY COMMUNITIES,
I TABLE THE PETITION FOR 1249 CONSTITUENTS CALLING ON THE
GOVERNMENT TO FUND A HEALTH CENTRE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
VOICES FROM THE PEOPLE I LISTEN TO ON THE DOORSTEPS THREE YEARS
AGO WHO WERE CALLING OUT FOR BETTER HEALTH-CARE INCOMMUNITY.
LAST YEAR, I INTRODUCED A BILL IN THE
LEGISLATURE CALLING FOR SCORES TO BEON FOR EVERY PATIENT
IN NOVA HAVING A MAMMOGRAM. THE
GOVERNMENT HONOURED THAT REQUEST. I NOW CALL ON THE
GOVERNMENT TO HEED CALL OF MY CONSTITUENTS REPEATEDLY
CALLING FOR BETTER HEALTH-CARE SERVICES AND HEALTH CENTRE IN
OUR COMMUNITY WITH MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX ARMDALE.
>> SPEAKER, SMALL BUSINESS ARE THE BACK-BONE OF OUR
PROVINCE AND WANT TO RECOGNIZE, OWNER-OPERATOR OF
ARMDALE BASE TOTALLYLIMITED. SAFETY SERVICES AND
WORK FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS. HE’S ALSO THE COOWNER AN ARMDALE, ARMVIEW
RESTAURANT ALONG SIDE PETER AND GEORGE. THIS BUSINESS IS ONE OF
OUR OLDEST MOST BELOVED LOCAL RESTAURANTS. ALL THREE
BUSINESS OWNERS GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH DONATIONS
CHARITIES, INCLUDING IWK, SPCA, ANNUAL CHRISTMAS FEED FOR NOVA
SCOTIA EVENTS, THE FIRSTHAM HALIFAX WEEK, WILL
SEE MONEY DONATED TOBANK. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE
ALL THREE BUSINESS OWNERS ON THEIR PROFESSIONAL SUCCESS.
THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR PICTOU EAST.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. The Speaker: PICTOU WEST.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT ACKNOWLEDGE AND
CONGRATULATE FOR BEING AWARDED MISS NOVA SCOTIA INTERNATIONAL
2019 AND MISS TEEN NOVA SCOTIA INTERNATIONAL RESPECTIVELY.
SHERRY NAMED MISS NOVA SCOTIA, . INVITED TO COMPETE IN
THE NATIONALS TORONTO. DECIDED TO DECLINE OFFER.
IT WOULD WITH HER WEEKS IN COLLEGE. THE
MOTHER-DAUGHTER PAIR HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN PAGEANTSES FOR A FEW
YEARS. THIS IS THE FIRST WIG WIN. THEY HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGING
OTHERS TO STEP OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE AND TRY SOMETHING
NEW JUST THEY DECIDED TO DO. I’M PROUD OF SHERRY
FOR THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN
THEIR YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.>>MR. SPEAKER, I BEG LEAVE TO
MAKE INTRODUCTION. The Speaker: PERMISSION
GRANTED.>> SPEAKER, I LIKE TO DRAW
THE THE MEMBERS TO THE GALLERY OPPOSITE. I’MJOINED
BY HARD WORKING AND AMAZING OFFICE STAFF. MY
CONSTITUENCY ASSISTANT ANDGRACE, MY OFFICER, BOTH
OF DO A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK WHILE I’M UNTIL HERE WITH ALL OF
YOU ATTENDING TO THE OF IN DARTMOUTH SOUTH. I
DO MY JOB THEM. I’M GLAD THEY DOWN TO THE
LEGISLATURE JOIN US TODAY. THANKS JOINING US.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR HALIFAX ATLANTIC.>>MR. SPEAKER, I TODAYSPEAK
ABOUT BRAND NEW MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE IN FIELD,
FIRES. NOT AN ACTUAL CAMP FIRE, DROP-IN
SESSIONS CREATE A SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT AND BUILD
SKILLS. THE CAMP FIRES ARE LED BY MIND. AN
ASSOCIATION FOCUSED ONACCESS TO MENTAL SERVICES
IN SPRY FIELD AND AREA. THE HOSTED SERIES AT LONG
LAKE PROVINCIAL PARK, FREE MENTAL FIRST AID TRAINING
AND HOSTING THE COMMUNITY FIRES. I WOULD LIKERECOGNIZE
STEPHANIEPASSION FOR TAPPING MENTAL
IS INSPIRING. THESE MAKE OUR
THRIVE. I WOULD LIKE THANK THIS GROUP AND
STEPHANIE. OF LUCK WITH THE CAMP INITIATIVE, THANK
YOU, MR. SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE COBEQUID.
>> RISE TODAY HONOUR THE THE ROYAL CANADIAN
LEGION 162 IN LOWER SACKVILLE. NOVEMBER 11th MEMBERS OF THE
LEGION GATHER ALONG WITH MEMBERS AND
ORGANIZATIONS TO REMEMBER CANADA’S VETERANS AT THE
SACKVILLE HERITAGE PARK CENOTAPH PAYING THEIR RESPECTS TO ALL
THOSE WHO SERVED CANADA AS WELL OF IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
MR. SPEAKER, I LIKE TO ASK OF THIS HOUSE
OF JOIN ME INTHE MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL
CANADIAN LEGION BRANCH 162 AND ALL ROYAL CANADIAN LEGION
MEMBERS FOR DEDICATIONCOMMIT YEAR AFTER YEAR TO
ENSURE WE HONOUR SHOW OUR GRATITUDE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN
WHO SERVED AND SOME CASES PAID THE ULTIMATE SO
THAT WE CAN ENJOY THETHAT WE DO TODAY. THANK YOU,
MR. SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER KINGS SOUTH.
>>MR. SPEAKER, THE VOICES ON THE LOCAL RADIO PARTOUR LIVES,
INFORM, AND EDUCATE. FOR OVER 36 A
WONDERFUL DEEP VOICE WELL KNOWN GENERATIONS OF ANNAPOLIS
VALLEY LISTENERS HAS BEEN HEARD. ANNOUNCEDRETIREMENT AND
TURNED OFF HIS MIC WITH HIS FINAL SHIFT ON THE
AIR FOR K-ROCK 89.3 NOVEMBER 15 NOVEMBER 15th, 2018. HE SPENT
25 DIRECTING THE NEWS AT MAGIC 97 MAGIC 94.9 BEFORE
BECOMING K-ROCK’S FIRST NEWS WHEN THE STATION
LAUNCHED IN 2008. HE HAS BEEN RETIRED A TOTAL OF
47 YEARS IN MEDIA, DAVE REMAINS IN HIS THROUGH
VOLUNTEERING AND IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION. I
INVITE ALL MEMBERS OF HOUSE OF ASSEMBLYME CONGRATULATING DAVE
ON HIS RETIREMENT AND THE MANY
YEARS OF A RELIABLE AND REASSURING THROUGHOUT THE
ANNAPOLIS VALLEY. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
BANK. [APPLAUSE]
>>I BEG TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION.
The Speaker: PERMISSION GRANTED.
>>DRAW ATTENTION MEMBERS TO THE GALLERY WHERE WILL
WE JOINED TODAY RESIDENT SACKVILLE BANK,
MISCHARLENE, I ASK ALL MEMBERS OF HOUSE TO WELCOME ANDHER A
WARM WELCOME TO HOUSE. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR SACKVILLEBANK.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. GIVES ME PLEASURE TO BE ABLESTAND TODAY
TO RECOGNIZE A FORMER COLLEAGUE OF MINEHAD THE
PRIVILEGE TO WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH FOR 16 YEARS
WHILE ON THE REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY. COUNCILLOR STEVE
ADAMS ANNOUNCED OCTOBER 18th ALMOST 28 THE DAYHIS FIRST
MUNICIPAL WIN ON OCTOBER 19th, 1991, THAT HE
WOULD NOT BE OFFERING FOR A NINTH TERM AS THE COUNCILLOR FOR
SPRY FIELD. WON HAD HISELECTION AT THE 1991, HE WORKED
WITH FOUR SEPARATE MAYORS, EIGHT CITY MANAGERS, WAS ACCLAIMED
TWICE AS COUNCILLOR, AND SERVED TWICE AS DEPUTY MAYOR. JUST PUT
IT IN PERSPECTIVE OVER HIS 28 YEARS, SEVEN PREMIERS,MEMBERS OF
PARLIAMENT, AND NINE DIFFERENT LEGISLATIVE MEMBERS
REPRESENTING HIS AREA. COUNCILLOR ADAMS HAS BEEN A HARD
WORKING AND STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SPRY FIELD AND
HERRING COVE. MANY ACHIEVEMENTS INCLUDING PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS
AND PAVING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. COMMUNITY
CENTRES, CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIRE HALL FOR COVE AND
COMING TO SERVE WILLIAM WOOD. TO SAY I HAVE RESPECT
ADMIRATION FOR STEVE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I CONSIDER A
COLLEAGUE AND MENTOR. I ASK THE MEMBERS ME WISHINGALL THE AS HE
MOVES TO HIS NEXT PHASE OF LIFE AND ON BEHALF
OF HIS RESIDENTS AND FRIENDS, I TO THANK HIM FOR HIS YEARS
OF SERVICE. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR YARMOUTH.
>> YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. COASTAL FINANCIAL
CREDIT UNION PURCHASED AND DONATED HOME TOHOUSING FOR
POTENTIALDOCTORS IN COMMUNITY. WORKING WITH THE OF
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR. MUNICIPAL UNITS AND
PROVINCE, COASTAL FINANCIAL CREDIT UNION RECOGNIZE MANY
DOCTORS HAVE TO PAY REPRESENT OR MORTGAGES IN THEIRLOCATIONS.
TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO FIND A TO THIS
BY PROVIDING FREE PLACE TO LIVE WHILE STUDYINGWORKING IN
YARMOUTH. THEA SHORT WALK TO YARMOUTH HOUSE
IS THREE UNITS FOR RESIDENT DOCTORS AND ONE UNIT THREE
BEDROOMS AND COMMON AREA FOR MEDICAL STUDENTSTEMPORARILY.
COASTAL FINANCIAL CREDIT UNION, ACT OF GENEROSITY
AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT HAS INSPIRED OTHERS TO DONATE. A
FREE DESIGN AND FILLFRIDGE. FREE PAINT AND
ELECTRICAL UPGRADE. I ASKHOUSE TO JOIN ME IN THANKING
COASTAL FINANCIAL CREDIT UNION FOR THIS ACT OF GENEROSITY AND
VISION, DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE
YARMOUTH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS AND
PROVINCE FOR SUPPORTING DOCTOR RECRUITMENT OUR COMMUNITY.
MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH EAST.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. RISE
TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING VOLUNTEERS WHO
ORGANIZED THE ST. THOMAS MORE FALL FAIR. OCTOBER 26thHAD THE
OPPORTUNITY VISIT THE FAIR WITH FAMILY. WE WERE
TREATED TO A AND HAD A CHANCE TO PURCHASE BOOKSARTS AND
CRAFTS. MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO THANK THE KNIGHTS OF
COLUMBUS AND CATHOLIC WOMEN’S LEAGUE FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS
FALL FAIR. MANY RESIDENTS HAVE ATTENDING FALL FAIR
FOR DECADES LOOK FORWARD TO IT ANNUALLY. PROCEEDS RAISED GO
SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND THE PARISH. I ASK ALLTHE HOUSE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS
AND CATHOLIC WOMEN’S LEAGUE ON A SUCCESSFUL FAIR AT
ST. THOMAS MORE, THANK YOU, MR. MR. SPEAKER.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR STATEMENTS. BEFORE QUESTION PERIOD, I WANT
TO REMIND ALL MEMBERS WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON FROM
FRIDAY. ZERO TOLERANCE FOR UNSOLICITED REMARKS OR COMMENTS.
IF I HEAR ANY, YOU WILL ASKED TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE
FOR THE BALANCEQUESTION PERIOD. WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO MINISTERS.
HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.
[APPLAUSE]>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE
P.C. CAUCUS SUBMITS A REQUEST TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOUR AND TO
THE PREMIER’S OFFICE SEEKING DOCUMENTS AND CORRESPONDENCE
RELATING TO THE CRANE SITUATION AND THE ASSUMPTION OFLIABILITY.
THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOUR RESPONDED ASKING FOR A 30
MORE DAYS TO COMPLETE THE RESPONSE. THE PREMIER’S
RESPONDED. RESPONDED WITH A REDACTED DOCUMENT THAT
INDICATES NO THAT THE PREMIER WAS CONSULTED BEFORE
THEY THE LIABILITY WAS ASSUMED. CAN THE PREMIER CONFIRM WHETHER
OR NOT THE PREMIER WASIN THE DECISION TO ASSUME
FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE CRANE?
The Speaker: PREMIER.>>MR. SPEAKER, ULTIMATELY EVERY
DECISION GOVERNMENT MAKES ENDS UP ON DESK. I HAVE BEEN
MINISTERS CAPABLE OF RUNNING THEIR PORTFOLIOS. I ALLOW SO.
OPPOSITION.>>THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. HE ASKED NUMEROUS ABOUT THE COST OF THE
ASSUMPTION OF THE LIABILITY. THE PREMIER INDICATED IT’S IN
INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY. SUPPORTS. IT’S THE
RIGHT THING TO DO, IT’S THE THING TO DO NO MATTERCOST. HOW
MUCH IT WILL COST TAXPAYERS. PART OF RELEASE
FROM PREMIER’S OFFICE INCLUDED THIS PAGE WHICH IS
BASICALLY ALL REDACTED. FOR ONE EXPRESSION. THAT
EXPRESSION IS FINGERS CROSSED. THAT DOES SEEM – I’LL TAWBL
THAT FOR – TAWBL THAT FOR THETHE HOUSE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
THE PREMIER, IS THEPREPARED TO TELL THEIS THE LIABILITY THE
TAXPAYERS ASSUMED FOR REMOVAL OF
CRANE. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
PREMIER.>>IT’S ONGOING WORK HAPPENING
ON THAT SITE. CONTINUE, MR. SPEAKER, TO ENSURE WE SECURE
PUBLIC SAFETY. HONOURABLE MEMBER KNOW, WHEN THE
STAGES AT LOOKING AT ULTRASOUND OF THAT SITE. ONE AT
THE BEGINNING ONE AT THE END. WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME
DAMAGE ASSOCIATED WITH WORK ON SITE. WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT IS REPAIRED. THAT IS THE WAY IT BEFORE
AND COMMUNICATE THE COST ASSOCIATED THAT.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT’S
CURIOUS THAT THE PREMIER WON’T SHARE ESTIMATE OF THE COST.
CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE ATALLY. NO QUESTION. A FINAL
TALLY THE END OF ALL THIS. AT THIS STAGE, THE GOVERNMENT MUST
HAVE SOME INDICATION OF THE COST. THEY SHOULD HAVE HADWHEN
THEY BEGAN THE PROCESS BUT IT’S BEEN ALMOST MONTHS.
PRESUMABLY THEY HAVE SOME THE COST. WHEN WE
SPOKE TO THE THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE NON RESPONSIVE
CHARACTER OF THE DISCLOSURE, THEY SAID APPEAL. WE KNOW
THE APPEAL PROCESS IS TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS. IT SEEMS
THIS GOVERNMENT IS USING THAT AS THE CONVENIENT TO
KEEP INFORMATION FROM TAXPAYERS. I LIKE ASK THE PREMIER
ONE MORE TIME. CAN THE PREMIER SHARE AN ESTIMATE OF THE COST.
The Speaker: PREMIER.>>THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS,
MR. SPEAKER, PROJECT IS COMPLETE, WHEN WE THAT,
WE HAVE SEEN THE DAMAGE ASSOCIATED, WE WILL COMMUNICATE
TO NOVA SCOTIANS, THE EXACT COST ASSOCIATED. BEING IN
OPPOSITION. WE CAN’T MAKE THINGS UP. I TO MAKE SURE
IT’S AN ACCURATE NUMBER. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE NEW DEMOCRATIC
PARTY.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FOR
THE LAST 12 YEARS, WE HAVE HAD IN NOVA SCOTIA AND INVALUABLE
ENVIRONMENTAL ROAD MAP LEGISLATIVELY REQUIRED US TO DO
IMPORTANT THINGS. REDUCE MERCURY EMISSIONS TO NO MORE
THAN 35 KILOGRAMS, INCREASE MONEY SPENT ON LOCALLY PRODUCED
FOOD TO 20% BY 2020. AND REDUCE SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL TO NO MORE
THAN 300 KILOGRAMS PER PERSON YEAR, MR. SPEAKER, WITH FIVE
THE ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY
ACT NOWHERE IN SIGHT, WILL THE PREMIER TELL THE HOUSE IF THESE
TARGETS HAVE BEEN MET. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
PREMIER.>>I CAN GET THAT FOR THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER AND HAVE IT PRESENTED TO HIM.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE NEW DEMOCRATIC
PARTY.>>MR. SPEAKER, THESE TARGETS
ARE EXTRAORDINARILY IMPORTANT. NOVA SCOTIA HAS ONE OF THE
HIGHEST MERCURY LEVELS IN COUNTRY. WE KNOW OUR
AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY IS CONTRIBUTING HALF A BILLION
EVERY YEAR TO OURECONOMY. IN A WAY WHICH DOESN’T
HAVE THE HEAVY ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT. AS FAR AS SOLID
WASTE CONCERNED, WE HAVE A RECENT REPORT COMMISSIONEDTHE
GOVERNMENT THAT SAYS WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY LANDFILLS. OUR
SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT IS NOT WHAT IT BE. MR. SPEAKER,
I WOULD LIKE ASK PREMIER, DOES HE SUPPORT THE NEED TO HAVE
HARD, STRONG UNMOVABLE TARGETS IN MERCURY LEVELS, LOCAL
AGRICULTURE AND WASTE? The Speaker: HONOURABLE
PREMIER.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE
ROUNDTABLE WOULD HAVE INFORMATION. THEY’RE REVIEWING
IT. TO QUESTION, SPEAKER. 53%
REDUCTIONS BELOW 2005 LEVELS. ALL NOVA SCOTIANS SHOULDPROUD
THAT. WE’RE CONTINUING TO ENSURE TO GET TO ZERO. WASTE
DIVERSION, MR. SPEAKER, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE WE
CONTINUE TO LEAD THE COUNTRY IN MANY OF THESE.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE NEW DEMOCRATIC
PARTY.>>MR. SPEAKER, IS THE TARGET
UPPER MOST IN THE THE PEOPLE OF THE PROVINCE. WE
WARMING EXCESS OF 1.5 MEANS THINGS. GREATER
DROUGHT, INCREASE TEMPERATURES, SEA LEVEL RISE,
SPECIES LOST, INCREASE IN
TEMPERATURES, INCREASED RISK TO LIVELY HOODS, FOOD SECURITY,
SUPPLY, SECURITY AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. HUMAN HEALTH,
RISK FROM DISEASES, MALARIA. MANY GOING TO BEEXTREME FOR
COASTAL AREAS AND COASTAL POPULATIONS OURS.
DOES THE GRASP IT IS LIFE AND IMPERATIVE THAT
GLOBAL WARMING BE KEPT WITHIN 1.5 ?
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE PREMIER.
>>ABSOLUTELY, MR. SPEAKER. THAT’S WHY WE HAVE THE MOST
AGGRESSIVE TARGETS INCOUNTRY, MR. SPEAKER.
[APPLAUSE]>>WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE
THOSE TARGETS. WE NEED ECONOMIC GROWTH AND JOB CREATION.
THERE IS JOBS WITH OUR TO
ENSURING GREEN UP THIS PROVINCE, MR. SPEAKER. WE SEE
OPPORTUNITIES. WE CONTINUE TO LEAD THE NATION, MR. SPEAKER.
AND IT’S MY HOPE, MR. SPEAKER, OTHER CANADIAN PROVINCES JOIN IN
THE FIGHT NOVA SCOTIA HAS BEEN WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE. SAME TIME, I HOPE THEY CAN CATCH UP TO US.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: OPPOSITION.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE PREMIER IS OFTEN FOND OFACCUSING
OTHER PEOPLE OF MAKING THINGS UP. HE DOESN’T LIKE TO
HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR HIS OWN RECORD. WE PUT A REQUEST IN THE
FOR THE LEGAL FEES ON THE ALEX SITUATION. WE’RE NOT
LOOKING FOR THE LEGAL ADVICE. LOOKING FOR THE STRATEGY.
JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TAXPAYER MONEY THE PREMIER HAS
SPENT ON THE ALEX CASE. MR. SPEAKER, THE RESPONSE TO
THAT REQUEST, 41 PAGES OF COMPLETELY BLANK INFORMATION.
41 PAGES. THAT’S A RESPONSE REQUEST. I LIKE ASK
PREMIER, IS 41 BLANK PAGES AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO A
REQUEST. TABLE THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF HOUSE.
[APPLAUSE] The Speaker: PREMIER.
>> SPEAKER, OUR RECORD IS ONE OF GROWTH, MR. SPEAKER.
HIGHEST POPULATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE PROVINCE. MORE
YOUNG CHOOSING TO LIVE IN PROVINCE. SEEING ECONOMIC
FUTURE FOR THEMSELVES. HONOURABLE MEMBER LAUGH.
BUT YOUNG CANADIANS AND YOUNG SCOTIANS ARE TAKING THE
CHOICE TO LIVE IN THIS PROVINCE AND CREATE GOOD JOOX, MR.
SPEAKER. MIGHT BE A LAUGHING MATTER FOR MEMBERS. IT’S
BRINGING GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR SONS AND DAUGHTERS. SEE A
FUTURE FOR THEMSELVES. ITO REMIND THE HONOURABLE
UNDER THEPARTY, MORE YOUNG PEOPLE WERE
LEAVING STAYING, MR. SPEAKER. WE SEEN THEM
CHOOSE THE OPPOSITE. MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LIVING
SCOTIA. WORKING AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES. THAT’SRECORD,
MR. SPEAKER. YOUNG NOVA SCOTIANS ARE PROUD OF.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION.>>MR. SPEAKER, I TO DEBATE
THE ON RECORD ON FILE. IT IS
HORRENDOUS WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO MANITOBA. SASKATCHEWAN.
P.E.I. THOSE PLACES THAT CAN CLAIM SUCCESS IN WHAT’S
HAPPENED. NOVA SCOTIA’S POPULATION IS THE HIGHEST IT HAS
BEEN DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF THIS GOVERNMENT.
[APPLAUSE] PLAUS.
>>RETURNING TO THE MATTERHAND, 41 PAGES WITH HELD. 41
PAGES BLANK INFORMATION RESPONDING TO A REQUEST. THAT’S
THE QUESTION THE PREMIERWANT TO ANSWER BECAUSE HE KNOWS
IT’S THE QUESTION THAT CAN’T PROPERLY ANSWERED. THERE’S
NO ANSWER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHY IS IT THE PREMIER
CONTINUE TO CASES TO COURT COURT AFTER COURT INSTEAD
OF JUST RELEASING SHOULD BE RELEASED HE.
EVEN THE COURTS, THE COURT REMINDS NOVA SCOTIA ITBY RULE OF
THE LAW IN ITS DECISION ON CASE. I’LL
THAT. PREMIERLAND OF LAND AND RELEASE THE
INFORMATION. WON’T YOU? [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: PREMIER.>>THE HONOURABLE MEMBER MAY BE
IMMIGRATION, THE FACT OF THE IS, HE CAN DISMISS
WANTS, MR. SPEAKER. WE ARE AN AN ALL-TIME WHEN IT
TO POPULATION.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR PICTOU EAST WILL
EXCUSE HIMSELF FROM THIS CHAMBER. – COMES.
The Speaker: PREMIER.>>MORE NEW NOVA SCOTIANS. HE
CAN DENY YOUNG PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO AND WORK IN
PROVINCE. OUR POPULATION IS AT ALL-TIME HIGH. REMIND
THE HONOURABLE MEMBER, WHEN A FEDERAL CONSERVATIVE PARTY WAS
POWER, MR. SPEAKER, THEY HELD NOMINEES. WE ARE AT 1400,
2,000 INSIDE OF ATLANTIC CANADA. THAT A IS
CHANGING THE DIAL ONLY FOR THIS PROVINCE, BUT ATLANTIC
CANADA. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH NORTH.
>>MR. SPEAKER, MY QUESTION IS FOR THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT.
THIS SUMMER WAS ANOTHER SUMMER WHERE DARTMOUTH LAKES WERE
PLAGUED WITH TOXIC ALGAE BLOOMS AND WEEDS. INVESTIGATIONS
UNCOVERED THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT MONITORING BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT IN DARTMOUTH LAKES. NEEDSCIENCE
AND MORE CO-OPERATION AT THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL ON THE
FACING URBAN LAKES. MR. SPEAKER, THE
EXPLAIN WHAT PROGRESS DEPARTMENT HAS IN
MONITORING DONE. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
THE ENVIRONMENT.>>THANK MEMBER. TALKED
ABOUT THAT TOPIC A WEEKS AGO. I COMMEND THEMBRINGING IT
FORWARD. THE SITUATION LAKES IS
ONE THAT’S, THAT’S COMPLICATED. YOU LOOKWITHIN AN URBAN, RURAL
AREATHAT, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ENVIRONMENT TAKE THAT ROLE
SERIOUSLY. WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH OUR R PARTNERS,
ARE INFORMEDWORK WITH THEM BRING THEM
UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION ON THE STATUS THOSE LAKES, THANK
YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH NORTH.
>>YES, MR. SPEAKER. MY COLLEAGUES DARTMOUTH SOUTH
AND MET WITH THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT. WE PLEASEDMADE THE
FOR US. AUGUST 22
AUGUST 22nd BEFORE THAT MEETING, MY COLLEAGUE AND I, MLA
FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH, 150 PEOPLE PACKED THE TO MANLY
LAKES. WE INVITED WE
KNEW WE NEEDED TACKLE THIS PROGRAM. HE INDICATED HE WAS
OPEN TO THE SOLUTION THE IS THE MINISTER OPEN TO CONVENING
AN URBAN LAKES? [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER ENVIRONMENT.
>> THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE
NEED TO UNDERSTAND IN125EU789 AND QUESTION, IT IS A
COMPLICATED SITUATION IN THE DARTMOUTH LAKES. IT’S
CHALLENGING AREA WE’RE SEEING DEVELOPMENT. AT THE SAME TIME,
WE’RE SEEING THESE LAKESDEALT WITH, SOMETIMES SITUATIONS
THAT DON’T HAVE TO DO DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE TO DO
CHANGE. THEY HAVE TO DO WITH INVASIVE SPECIES. I
COMMITTED TO CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION WITH THEOPPOSITE.
FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE GO DOWNROAD.
THANK YOU.HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION.>>QUESTION FOR THE MINISTER
INTERNAL SERVICES. WE THE AUDITOR’S REPORT. THINGS OUT.
SCOTIA AND INTERNAL SERVICES MAY BE ABLE TO PREVENT AND
DETECT UNAUTHORIZED AND FRAUDULENT PAYMENTS. ALSO WAS
INABILITY TO ENSURE DEPARTMENTAL PURCHASESVALUE FOR
MONEY. MR. SPEAKER, THE YOUNG HAD
LAND AT HIS DOOR, HAVE CHANGED CHARACTER IN THE
BOX USING INTERNET TO GAIN ACCESS TO
DEPARTMENT’S PRIVATE INFORMATION BELONGED SCOTIANS. MR. SPEAKER, WHY THE
RESPONSIBLEINFORMATION AND PROCUREMENT
FAILING TOSCOTIA PS THAT THIS HAS ABILITYMANAGE THESE
IMPORTANT SYSTEMS? The Speaker: MINISTER OF
INTERIM SERVICES.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
THANK THE MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION. LEARNED FROM A
BREACH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND PRACTICES WITHIN
CONTRACTING TO MAKE SURE PRIVACY IMPACT ASSESSMENTS AND
THREAT RISK ASSESSMENTS ARE BEING ON CONTRACTS. TAKE THE
AUDIT FROM AUDITOR GENERAL AND WORKED WITH HIS
OFFICE AND CONTINUE WORK WITH OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WEFINDING
THE DEFICIENCIES AND WORKING ON THEM TO COMPLY.
THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: HONOURABLE HOUSE LEADER FOR THE OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION.>> SPEAKER, I THINKARE
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. BECAUSE IF WE’RE ASKING IN THE
LEGISLATURE, ADDING THE WEIGHT OF THE LEGISLATURE BEHIND THEM.
MR. SPEAKER, TRANSPORTATION IS RESPONSIBLE SOME OF THE
BIGGEST PROJECTS IN THIS PROVINCE. HOSPITALS, ROADS,
CONTAMINATED SITE REMEDIATION. ONLY 11% OF COMPLETED
FRAUD TRAINING. MR. SPEAKER, I DON’T WANTPREMIER TO
STAND AND SAY WE’RE ACCUSING MEMBERS OF
GOVERNMENT, CIVIL SERVICEPROUD. MR. SPEAKER, I THINK IT
SHOWS THE GOVERNMENT HASMADE THIS A PRIORITY THAT
DEPARTMENT. MY QUESTION FOR AS OF THIS
DEPARTMENT, WILL THE MINISTER ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY AND WHAT
WILL HE BE TO CORRECT THIS.
The Speaker: MINISTER TRANSPORTATION.
>> THANK THE MEMBER TOQUESTION. THE ISSUE OF
INTEGRITY HIGHEST US. WE A LARGE NUMBERPEOPLE.
THE PROCESS NOT ALL HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTERS OR
FAMILIARITY WITH IT. WHAT WE’RE DOING IS LOOK THE AT WHEREAT.
WE’RE AT 19%. 47% FOR SENIOR MANAGEMENT. AND WE WILL
BE CONDUCTING A WHEREBY THE TRAINING WILL BE DONE IN A
GROUP MANNER SO PEOPLE CAN DO IT IN MORE WAY.
>>MY IS MINISTER OF EDUCATION. THE ROLE OF
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ASSISTANTS CRITICAL TO OUR EDUCATION
SYSTEM. GONE ARE THE DAYS OF EPA SUPPORTING STUDENTS FOR
ACADEMICS. MR. SPEAKER, THEY NURSES, OCCUPATIONAL
THERAPISTS, PHYSIOTHERAPISTS, COUNSELLORS, SPEECH THERAPISTS,
SECRETARIES AND RESEARCH EXPERTS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS AND
BEHAVIOURS. EPA ARE NOT PRIVY TO MEDICAL INFORMATION. I HEARD
STORIES FROM EPAs CONTRACTING RINGWORM, EVEN EYE. AS A
MINISTER IS AWARE, RIGHT TO KNOW IS A FUNDAMENTAL PILLAR OF
WORKPLACE SAFETY. WHAT STEPS IS THE TAKING TO ENSURE
EPAs HAVE REQUIRED INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PROTECT
THE STUDENTS THEY WORK WITH AND AVOIDINJURY.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF EDUCATION.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. VALUE THE
ROLE OF EPAs. TAs, EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS.
WHY WE HIRED MORE TO SUPPORT OUR IN NOVA
SCOTIA. PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT SCHOOLS SAFE.
NOT JUST FOR STUDENT. BUT FOR STAFF AND WE HAVE A
PROTOCOLS IN FROM REGION TO REGION TO ENSURE THEINTERESTS
THOSE STAFF ARE PROTECTED.
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH EAST.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RECOGNIZE THAT THE GOVERNMENT
HAS MADE INVESTMENTS WITH THE INCLUSION MODEL. I’M HEARING
THE SAME CONCERNS FROM EPAsDID FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO. SERVED ON
COMMITTEE AT MY LOCAL SCHOOL. COMMON ISSUE
THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WERE INJURIES AND WORKPLACE HAZARDS
FOR EPAs. ALONG WITHPRESSURES, MR. SPEAKER, EPAs
ARE TIMES APRIL ASSIGNED TOO MANY
TIMES. DOES NOT MET THE SKILL SET OR TRAINING. MY QUESTION
THIS, WHY PROGRAM ASSISTANTS RECEIVING MORE
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SO THEY CAN BETTER STUDENTSHIGHER NEEDS.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER EDUCATION.
>>IN FACT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE INCREASE INVESTMENTS WE
MADE AS A GOVERNMENT, FOR MORE EAs, WE PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR
DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THE
SYSTEM THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANT. ON
TOP THAT, WE HAVE HIRED CLOSE TO 400 OTHER INCLUSIVE EDUCATION
SUPPORT STAFF AS WELL AS INCLUDING CHILD AND YOUTH
PREARGSERS, AUTISM EXPERTS. MORE – PRACTITIONERS. SCHOOL
PSYCHOLOGISTS PROVIDE THE NECESSARY WRAP AROUND SUPPORT
MEET THE VARIETY OF NEEDS YOU ARE HAVE TO ENSURE
THEY’RE SUCCESSFUL. DELIVERING
ISN’T SOLELY ON THE TEACHER AND EDUCATIONALTAMENT.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE COBEQUID.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT WAS RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT SIX
NEW PROJECTS WOULD ADDED THE FLOOD INVESTMENT
PROGRAM. I’LL THAT. AS THE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
COBEQUID, IT WAS OFBECAUSE OF THE RIVERS EXPANDING
FLOOD MAPPED THROUGH HRM. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE DESPITE
SIGNIFICANT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BY HALIFAX WATER.
WHEN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES IN THE 1960s AND
70s WAS UNDERWAY. OFTEN IN FLOOD SERVICED WITH
SHALLOW STORMWATER SYSTEMS. MY QUESTION TO THE MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS IS CAN THE MINISTER CLARIFY HOW RECIPIENTS
DETERMINED AND WHETHER ANY PARTS OF THE SACKVILLE FLOOD
PLAIN AREA WILL ANY OF THIS FUNDING.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE ARE
DEVELOPING, THE HAS CHANGED A GREAT DEAL. WE
IMPLEMENTED A BILL THROUGHHOUSE. MINIMUM PLANNING
STANDARDS THAT SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFIC THING AROUND
WATERWAYS, RIVERS. HONOURABLE MINISTER HAS TO. THOSE
ARE IMPORTANT AS WE FORWARD. WE’LL LOOK AT OPTIONS AS WE
MOVE FORWARD. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE COBEQUID.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
AREAS ON LOW-LYING GROUND WILL SEE AN INCREASE RISK RELATED TO
FLOODING. NOVA SCOTIA, FAMOUSLY YOU’RE NEVER MORE THAN 67
KILOMETRES FROM OCEAN. MAKES A LOT OF LAND NEARLEVEL. WHEN YOU
ADD IN MORE THAN 3,000 LAKES AND RIVERS, I’M
SURE THERE ARE MORE AREASNEED ASSISTANCE THROUGH THIS
PROGRAM. MR. SPEAKER, WOULD THE MINISTER EXPLAIN THE
DEPARTMENT’S PLAN FOR ASSISTANCE TO OTHER PARTS OF NOVA SCOTIA
THAT ARE FACING INCREASED FLOOD RISK.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
>> YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK MEMBER FOR
THE QUESTION. HE RAISES AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. THE WORK WE’RE
DOING WITH OUR MUNICIPAL UNITS VITAL WHEN IT COMES TO
PLANNING AND HOW THEY PROCEED WITH DEVELOPMENT ACROSS
PRAWMPTION. WE’LL BE PAYING CLOSE — PROVINCE. LOTS
OF WORK TO DO. CLIMATE CHANGE WE KNOW THE MEMBER SPOKE TO.
AN IMPORTANT FOR US. WE HAVE SEEN CHANGES THE
RISING SEA LEVELS, MR. SPEAKER. MORE SO IN SOME AREASOTHERS.
WE’LL CONTINUE TOTHAT. WE SEE HOW THE WEATHERCHANGING.
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR MUNICIPAL AS I
STATED. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR KINGS NORTH.>>QUESTION FOR THE MINISTER OF
HEALTH AND WELLENING. WELLNESS. CAPE
BRETON REGIONAL HOSPITAL. RECENT CHANGES HAVE MADE IT
WHILE PEOPLE ARE CHECKED INTO DETOX, THEY’LL ABLE TO
PASSES TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM FOR A FEW HOURS. SINCE CHANGE,
IT’S BEEN DISCOVERED SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE PASSES ARE DOING OTHER
DRUGS OR CONSUMING OTHER SUBSTANCES. SOMETIMES ON
HOSPITAL PROPERTY IT IS ALLEGED. DETOX IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
LOCKING PEOPLE ISN’T ALLOWED. THEM TO INGEST OTHER
DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THEM BEING IN DETOX. QUESTION IS
WHAT MEASURES IS THE TAKING TO PREVENT
PEOPLE IN DETOX FROM CONSUMING OTHER DRUGS ON
PROPERTY? The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF HEALTH.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
THE MEMBER FOR RAISING THIS QUESTION.
CERTAINLY WE SPEAK AND HAVE SPOKEN AT LENGTH ABOUT MENTAL
ON FLOOR. IT’S GREAT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT ADDICTIONS, AS WELL. MR. SPEAKER, FIRST AND FOREMOST
IS THE OPERATIONAL CARE AND DELIVERY OF PROGRAMS, DELIVERED
BY OUR HEALTH AUTHORITIES ON THE FRONTLINE, MR. SPEAKER. THE
FACT IS THE GUIDANCE FOR PROGRAM DELIVERY IN AREA OF
ADDICTION SERVICES IS SOMETHING THAT IS EVOLVING BASED UPON
CLINICAL RESEARCH AND BEST EVIDENCE. THAT’S THE
WAY THEY DELIVER THESE PROGRAMS. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
FOR KINGS NORTH.>> SPEAKER, I THANKMINISTER FOR
ANSWER. WHILE THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT TO
CANADIAN-BASED TREATMENT FOR ADDICTIONS, FOR OTHERS
DETOX REMAINS TRIED AND TRUE. WITH ONLY ONE LOCATION
WITH INPATIENT DETOX, OPIOID ADDICTS LIMITED WITH ONE,
ONLY ONE LOCATION ON CAPE BRETON OFFERING INPATIENT DETOX, THE
OPTIONS ARE LIMITED. BLANCHARD TELLS ME HE GETS CALL
FROM OPIOID ADDICTS WHO WANT TO DO INPATIENT DETOX TOLD THE
ONLY MODEL FOR OPIOID ADDICTS IS A HARM REDUCTION
MODEL OF METHADONE. FOR ANYONE LOOKING TO CHECK INTO THE
TREATMENT CENTRE SUCH ASHOUSE, THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE
DETOX FIRST. FOR OPIOID ADDICTS THERE’S NO DO IT. TOM
BLANCHARD STATES HOME-BASED DETOX IS DANGEROUS AND
INEFFECTIVE. MY QUESTION FOR MINISTER. THE MINISTER
LOOK INTO RESTORING INPATIENT FOR OPIOID ADDICTS WANTOPTION IN
CAPE BRETON AND THE PROVINCE.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER OF HEALTH.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT’S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY I BELIEVE TO
DRAW ATTENTION TO THE EXTENSIVE WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN
DOING THE DEPARTMENT AS OUR PARTNERS IN THE
AUTHORITY. ANDCOMMUNITY-BASED PARTNERS.
SPECIFICALLY AROUND THIS TOPIC TREATING AND SUPPORTING NOVA
SCOTIANS THAT OPIOID USE DISORDER. MR. SPEAKER, THAT
CHALLENGED ADDICTIONS IN USE OF OPIOIDS. MR.
SPEAKER, ONE OF THE FIRST PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS I DID IN 2017 AS
HEALTH MINISTER RELEASE THE FRAMEWORK OPIOID ADDICTION
INTERFACE. FIVE PILLAR TO SEE THAT. WE HAVE BEEN INVESTING IN
OF THEM. WE HAVE SEENWAIT REDUCED BY OVER 90%
FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR TREATMENT FOR OPIOID MISUSE DISORDER IN
PROVINCE BECAUSEINVESTMENTS LIVES.
The Speaker: FOR CAPE BRETON CENTRE.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, QUESTION IS FORMINISTER
OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS. GRANT THORNTON’S STUDY ON
ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE CBRM WAS RELEASED JULY. IT FOUND
THAT MIGRATION DUE TO THE SLUGGISH ECONOMY AND HIGHER THAN
AVERAGE RATES. INCREASED FINANCIAL
THE FEDERAL AND PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS WILL
BE NECESSARY FOR THE CONTINUED SUSTAINABILITY OF COMMUNITY.
MR. SPEAKER, I LIKE ASK THE MINISTER WHAT STEPS HAS HIS
DEPARTMENT TAKEN IN RESPONSE TO OF THAT REPORT?
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MR. SPEAKER. I THANK MEMBER FOR
QUESTION. WE WANT ALL COMMUNITIES IN NOVA SCOTIA, MR.
SPEAKER, TO BE HEALTHY, THRIVING GROWING, THE CBRM.
LOTS OF THEWRITTEN, MR. SPEAKER. WE’LL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CBRM GOING FORWARD AN EFFORT TO
SUPPORT THEM ANDMUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR CAPE CENTRE.>> SPEAKER, THE CBRM CAN NOT
UP WITH THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES OUR COMMUNITIES.
GRANT THORNTON REPORT FOUND RESOURCES ARE STRETCHED TO THE
LIMIT. OUR LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS TAXED. BUSES ARE OVERCROWDED
TRYING TO STUDENTS TO CBU AND WE’RE FACING A HOUSING
SHORTAGE. MR. SPEAKER, WE’RE ON THE OF BOUNCING BACK WITH
YOU NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MOMENTUM
ASSISTANCE FROM THE PROVINCE. MR. SPEAKER, CAN THE
MINISTER PLEASE TELL ME IF THE PROVINCE WILL BE PROVIDING
ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THE CBRM.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
>>THANK MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. GLAD THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER RAISES A TOPIC INVESTMENT. MR. SPEAKER,
THIS GOVERNMENT HAS REINVESTED. ONE EXAMPLE, MR. SPEAKER, THE
REVITALIZATION OF THE PROJECTS IN
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SYDNEY, GLACE BAY AND NORTH SYDENHAM. WE WILL
CONTINUE. THAT AINVESTMENT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO
INVEST IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY, ACROSS NOVA SCOTIA. THANK
MUCH. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR PICTOU WEST.>>MY QUESTION IS FORMINISTER OF
HEALTH. THERE ARE FEWER DIALYSIS CHAIRS AT THE AS
YOU THEY ARE SUTHERLAND HOSPITAL. OVER
45,000 PEOPLE. AS WE SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT, THERE ARE A LIST OF
KNOW THE MEMBERS IN THIS CHAMBER REALIZE
THAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO INCREASE. HAVE HEARD
THE GOOD NEWS WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS ELSEWHERE IN THE PROVINCE
RECEIVING CHAIRS AND BRIDGEWATER, DIGBY, GLACE BAY,
KEPTLEVILLE. I LIKE TO KNOW IF THE MINISTER PROVIDE
THE WITH 1KWRU7 DATE WHEN PICTOU WILL RECEIVE
ADDITIONAL DIALYSIS CHAIRS? The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF HEALTH.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
THE MEMBER FOR BRINGING THE FORWARD. INDEED,
AS WE HAVE SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY, EVEN ON THE FLOOR, FOR THOSE
NOVA SCOTIANS WHO REQUIRE DIALYSIS TREATMENT, THOSE OF US
WHO DON’T HAVE EXPERIENCE, I DON’T THINK CAN APPRECIATE
THREE FOUR DAYS A WEEK, OF FOUR TO HOURS2R50E789, MR.
SPEAKER. ITTAKE A TOLL JUST TO RECEIVE THE
TREATMENT. – WE HAVE FOLLOWED RECOMMENDATION AND ADVICE TO
HAVE AN EXPANSIONTHROUGHOUT THE PROVINCE. SITES THE REFERENCED
WERE IDENTIFIED. THAT WORK IS
ONGOING. THAT’S A PRIORITY SPACE, MR. SPEAKER FOR US FOR
EXPANDING. NEED TO GET THOSE UP AND RUNNING AND HOW
THE DESCRITION OF NEED AND SUPPORTS ROLL OUT FROM THERE
GOING FORWARD.
>> IS A GREAT NEED IN PICTOU COUNTY. 14 PEOPLE ON THE
WAITING LIST GROWING. 14
PEOPLE TRAVELLING SEVERAL TIMES A WEEKS. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
IT’S UNFAIR, MR. SPEAKER. IN ORDER TO RECEIVE TREATMENT,
THESE INDIVIDUALS TRAVELLING ON SOME OF THE DANGEROUS
HIGHWAYS IN OUR PROVINCE. MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE A BERNIE
CLARK WHO IS 88 YEARS OLD. HE HAS BEEN ADVISED THAT HEHAVE TO
START TREATMENTSOON. HIS DOCTOR HIM TO
START PREPARING. HE SAID PREPARING MEANS CARLO, FIGURING
OUT AM I GOING TO THE TREK TO HALIFAX AT 88 OLD.
I WANT KNOW, THE BERNIE CLARK,
WHO IS 88 OLD, SHOULD HAVE TO LEAVE HIS COMMUNITYTIMES A
WEEK TO RECEIVE A LIFESAVING TREATMENT?
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER HEALTH.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ONE OF THE THINGS ON AS THE
MEMBER NOTED, WAS PART OF THE PROVINCE AN EXPANSION OF
DIALYSIS SEATS IN A NUMBER LOCATIONS BASED UPON THE REVIEW
OF OUR RENAL PROGRAM INPROVINCE. THE SEATS HAVEIDENTIFIED.
INVESTMENTS ARE COMMITTED AND PROJECTS ARE
UNDERWAY. MR. SPEAKER, AS I HAVE DISCUSSIONS AS RECENTLY
AS I BELIEVE LAST WEEK WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE RENAL
PROGRAM, A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS ONGOING, MR. SPEAKER,
INCLUDING THE PURSUIT OF EXPANSION OF HOME DIALYSIS. I
ENCOURAGE CONSTITUENTS AND MEMBERS TO ENGAGE WITH THEIR
HEALTH-CARE SEE IF HOME DIALYSIS RIGHT.
RECEIVING TREATMENT, MR. SPEAKER,
IN OWN HOME. YOU DON’T HAVE TO YOU DON’T
DISRUPT THE BULK YOUR DAYTIME. THERE OPTIONS,
INCLUDINGSPEAKER. TAKING STEP IMPROVE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR NOVA SCOTIANS, AS WELL. The Speaker: MEMBER FOR
SACKVILLE-BEAVER BANK.
>> SPEAKER, TODAY MY QUESTION IS FOR THE MINISTER
COMMUNITY SERVICE. I HAVE WORKING ON A CHILD’S PROTECTION
CASE BEHALF OFCONSTITUENT OF MINE, CHARLENE.
MY OFFICE HAS TWICE FILLEDTHE FORMS THATME TO WORK ON
CONSTITUENT’S BEHALF. I’LL TABLE COPIES OF
BOTH THOSE. THESE FORMSMEANT TO ME RECEIVE
INFORMATION THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE WITHHELD FOR PRIVACY REASONS.
YET TIME AND TIME AGAIN MY ATTEMPTS RECEIVE THE
NECESSARY SEEM TOFRUSTRATED BY BUREAUCRATICTAPE. MR. SPEAKER,
MY QUESTION TO THE MINISTER. WOULD THE
MINISTER EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE CONTINUES TO WITHHOLD
DOCUMENTS PROVIDE ANON THIS CASE?
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. UNDERSTANDING IS THE HONOURABLE
RECEIVED A NUMBER OF UPDATES ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
AND I’M NOT AWARE OF ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED. THANK YOU. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE-BEAVER BANK.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND JUST FOR FOR THE
MINISTER, I HAVE NOT. SO MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT. MR. SPEAKER,
WHEN ASK CONSTITUENT TO FILL OUT THESE FORMS, WE’RE
CREATING AN EXPECTATION. IF THE FORMS CREATE THEWHERE SUFFICIENT
BE SHARED, THEN ALL MLAs ARE RISK. AT THE MLA FOR PICTOU
EAST, CONSTITUENTS COME TO US AT THEIR WORSE TIMES, BEST
TIMES. WE HAND THE FORMS, THOSE FORMS SHOULD
EMPOWER US TO HELP, IF WE’RE CREATING HOPE. MR.
DOES THE MINISTER STRENGTHENING THE
RELEASE FORM SO MORE INFORMATION CAN SHARED WITH MLAWORKINGs
WORKING BEHALF OF CONSTITUENTS.
>> TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR QUESTION. THE RELEASE
FORM IS THE SAME FORM USED ACROSS GOVERNMENT, MR. SPEAKER.
NOT SURE HOW MLAs AT RISK FROM CONSTITUENTS. ITO
ASSURE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER. WE IN A TIMELY WAY WHEN
CALLED OR INQUIRIES IN. I WANT TO ASSURE HIM, MR. SPEAKER,
THAT AT OUR LOCAL OFFICES EVERY CALL IS TRACKED. THANK
YOU. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR SHELBURNE.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
MINISTER OF TRI. MYRECEIVED CALLS ABOUT RIVER
IN QUEENS COUNTY. THIS IS DIRT ROAD CONNECTING SEVERAL SMALL
COMMUNITIES FROM VILLAGE TO GREENFIELD. VOLUME OF
TRAFFIC ON ROAD, TRUCKS DEGRADED THE ROAD OVER TIME.
YEAR ROUND SEASONAL RESIDENTS REPORT THE ROAD IMPACTING
REAL ESTATE PRICES. VEHICLE REPAIR BILLS ARE ADDING UP, MR.
SPEAKER. REPEATED REQUESTS TO TIR HAVE RESULTED IN PARTIAL
GRAVELING. WILL THE MINISTER COMMIT TO THEINSPECTED AND
CONDUCT A VIABILITY STUDY ON PAVING OF
THE ROAD OR HAVING A LENGTHS OF THE ROAD COATED.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION.
>>MR. SPEAKER, THANK THE MEMBER OPPOSITE FOR QUESTION.
FIRST OF ALL, I HOPE THEIS TAKING ADVANTAGE OFOPPORTUNITIES
MEET WITH OUR AND ABOUT THIS
YEAR’S PROGRAM. I WOULD CERTAINLY POINT HER IN THE
DIRECTION OF THE GRAVEL ROAD PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN
IN RURAL SCOTIA IN TERMS OF A BASE OF
ROADS GETTING THEM READY FOR SURFACE PREPARATION IF IT COULD
BE PAVING OR SEAL COAT. THE PARADOX IN NOVA SCOTIA IS THAT
MUCH OF THE ECONOMY, PARTICULARLY IN YOUR AREA TOO IN
THE FORESTRY WITH HEAVY LOADS ON GRAVEL ROADS WHICH IS PROVIDING
JOBS AND UNDUE PRESSURE ON OUR GRAVEL ROAD SYSTEM. AND
LIMITING THE TYPES COATINGS WE CAN APPLY IN THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCE SHORT OF BUILDING THEM TO 100 SERIES STANDARD.
MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS YOU.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SHELBURNE.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I THANK FOR THE MINISTER FOR
RESPONSE. ON THIS SAME ROAD IN AN AREA CALLED RIVERS DALE,
SECTION OF THE ROAD HAS BECOME EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. IT’S SO
NARROW CARS CAN’T PASS EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME. THE
IS LOW ENOUGH THE PRESENCE OF ICE, OR FAST AND
HIGH RIVER CURRENT POSES A SERIOUS DANGER TO MOTORISTS,
PARTICULARLY AS THERE ARE NO GUARDRAILS. DATE, THERE HAS
BEEN NO RESPONSE FROM TRI A COMMITMENT STUDY
SECTION OF ROAD. QUESTION TO THE MINISTER IS,
WHEN WILL THIS SECTION OF ROAD BE SERIOUSLY EXAMINED
AND FIXED? The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER TRANSPORTATION.>> YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER. THANK THE MEMBER FOR QUESTION. AREA AS A
PLEASANT SOUNDING NAME OF PLEASANT DALE IS WORTHY OF
LOOK. LOOK AT THE SITUATION IMMEDIATELY SEE
WHAT WE DO. THANK YOU. The Speaker: MEMBER VICTORIA
OF LAKES.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, QUESTION AS WELL, TO
MINISTER OF TRI. MANY OF MLAs, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL
AREAS, RECEIVE CALLS OF CONDITIONS ROADS IN OUR AS
SOON CONSTITUENCIES, MOST ARE ABOUT
POTHOLES, GUARDRAILS, WASHOUTS, THE GRADING OF ROADS. THESE
CALLS SEEM TO BE INCREASING YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO MY QUESTION TO
THE MINISTER IS WHAT IS HIS DEPARTMENT DOING ADDRESS THE
VOLUME OF MAJOR AND MINOR REPAIRS IN OUR CONSTITUENCIES?
The Speaker: MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. THANK THEOPPOSITE FOR
THE QUESTION. I’M PROUD OF THE ADVANCEMENT WEMADE
IN OUR BUDGET IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
INFRASTRUCTURE RENEWAL OVER THE LAST YEARS. WE’RE IN
EXCESS OF 300 MILLION CURRENTLY. WE HAVE PUT MORE MONEY INTO
MOWING THE 100 SERIES HIGHWAYS, CASCADED, MONEY SPENT THERE
RURAL AREAS. IN THE MEMBER’S CONSTITUENCY, A
BEAUTIFUL AREA DONE MORE RECENTLY. WE’RE UNDERTAKING NOW
CLIMB THE BIG OF SMOKEY REDO THAT AFTER 60
YEARS. SO WE’RE MINDFUL OF THE NEED TO EXPEND OUR RESOURCES IN
RURAL AREAS. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR VICTORIA OF LAKES.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ALL APPRECIATE FUNDING
GONE TO BOTH MAINTENANCE PAVING AND THE
GRAVEL PROGRAM. WE HAVE BENEFITTED FROM BOTH. BUT
THE MINOR REPAIRS THAT COULD BE DONE BEFORE THEY BECAME A MAJOR
EXPENSE CAN’T BE BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDING. SURE IF
YOU CHECKED WITH THEMANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS, YOU
WOULD FIND MANY, IF NOT ALL WOULD TELL YOU THAT THEIR
BUDGETS WERE SPENT BEFORE SUMMER OVER. WITH INCREASEFUNDING,
MANY OF THESE JOBS COULD BE DONE. BUT THIS ISN’T
HAPPENING. MY QUESTION IS WILL THE MINISTER COMMIT TO A
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE BUDGET TO
ENABLE THESE AREA MANAGERS, SUPERVISORS AND EMPLOYEES TO GET
THEIR DONE? The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER TRANSPORTATION.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
THE OPPOSITE FOR QUESTION. IT’S ALWAYS A
CHALLENGE IN GOVERNMENT TO BALANCE THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTAL
EXPENDITURES. I HAVE TO SAY AGAIN I’M PLEASED WITH THE
CO-OPERATION WE HAVE HAD FROM TREASURY BOARD, IN PARTICULAR,
IT COMES TO OUR MAINTENANCE BUDGET. WE WERE ABLE TO
INCREASE IT BY $4 MILLION OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, WHICH THE
LARGEST INCREASE WE HAVE SEEN IN SELF YEARS IN THE DEPARTMENT.
YES, WE HAD MORE MONEY. LOOKING FORWAYS MAKE THE MONEY
WE HAVE GO FARTHER. THE DOLLAR.
AND WE’LL CONTINUE TO SEARCH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES OUT, MR.
SPEAKER. THANK YOU. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR KINGS NORTH.>> SPEAKER, QUESTION IS
THE MINISTER OF TRI. MR. SPEAKER, RESPONSE TO A
QUESTION LAST ABOUT THE HALFWAY RIVER, THE MINISTER
RESPONDED CONTRACTOR IS ANTICIPATE BEING VERY EARLY
SUMMER COMPLETION DATE. THE CONTRACTOR HAS AGREED WORK
SHIFTS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK COMPLETE WORK. WENT ON
TO SAY BELIEVE THE DANGER OF SPRING RUNOFF PASSED.
AND WE’RE OFFERING PERMANENT SOLUTION. TABLE THAT. A
LETTER WAS SETTLEMENTEROSION CAUSING ISSUES
AROUND THE CULVERT AND EMBANKMENT. THAT.
QUESTION FOR THE MINISTER IS THIS. WE NOW KNOW THE ORIGINAL
DESIGN FAILED. HOW MUCH WILL THE REPAIRS COST AND WHAT
GUARANTEE THE REPAIRS THAT ARE NEARLY DONE NOW WILL WORK?
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF TRANSPORTATION.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THANK THE MEMBER OPPOSITE FOR
QUESTION. WE CONTINUE TO BE COMMITTED TO SOLVING THE ISSUE
WHICH AFFECTS THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE THERE.
ALSO THREATENSINFRASTRUCTURE IN AREA.
I WOULD INVITE THE MEMBER HE
HASN’T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE DEPARTMENT YET, WE
CAN INCLUDE THAT IN WHEN YOU INTALK. THANK YOU.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR KINGS NORTH.
>> SPEAKER, I LIKE TO THANK MINISTER FOR THAT
ANSWER. MR. SPEAKER, THE SOLUTION TO FIXING EROSION THAT
WAS HAPPENING WAS TO PUT GATES THE CULVERTS. IN FACT, THIS
IS WHAT THE PEOPLE BEEN FOR. ILLUSTRATED BY A
LETTER DATED OCTOBER 6th, 2019FREY THE ACTION COMMITTEE
WILL TABLE. RESPONSE TO THE ACTION STATES THE
BE REMOVED AT SOME POINT IN FUTURE. I’LL TABLETOO,
ACTUALLY. MY QUESTION FOR THE THIS. WHEN WILL
THE MINISTER LISTEN TORESIDENTS LEAVE THE GATES
ON. HALFWAY RIVER PROJECT IT A PERMANENT AS THEY
REQUESTED? The Speaker: MINISTER OF
TRANSPORTATION.>> YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER. THE MEMBER OPPOSITE FOR QUESTION. IN
OUR DESIGN PROCESS, THE GATES ARE PART OF THAT DESIGN. THEY
ARE SUCH A WAY THAT THEY’RE AN OPTION THAT BE USEDNOT,
EMPLOYED. I THINK THAT GIVES THE OF WORLDS
AS WE WORK CONTINUOUSLY TO RESTORE THAT PIECE OF
THE THERE. THANK YOU.
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MY QUESTION IS FOR THE MINISTER OF
HEALTH. MR. SPEAKER, THE HARBOUR IS A PICTURESQUE
COMMUNITY ON SHORES OF THE BAY OF FUNDY. GENERATIONSCALLED
THIS PLACE HOME AND SURVIVED ON LAND SEA.
MINDSET IN THE COMMUNITY IS THE CREATED BAYVIEW NURSING
HOME. THE KNOWS,HAVE AN ISSUE WITH LACKLONG-TERM BEDS IN
PROVINCE. MY QUESTION TO THE MINISTER IS
WITH THE NUMBER PATIENTS IN THIS NURSING HOME AND BEDS OPEN,
WILL THE MINISTER WORK TO UTILIZE THE BED AND SECURE THE
SUSTAINABILITY FOR SITE? The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER HEALTH.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
THANK THE MEMBER FOR RAISING THE TOPIC OF LONG-TERM CARE
SERVICES. THE MEMBER WOULD KNOW, WE’RE COMMITTED TO
SUPPORTING NOVA SCOTIANS IN, WHO REQUIRE CONTINUING
SERVICES, WHETHER THAT’S STAY IN A HOME, RECEIVE HOME CARE
SERVICES AND SUPPORTS, MR. SPEAKER OR IN LONG-TERM CARE
FACILITIES. SO, MR. SPEAKER, CERTAINLY THE MEMBER HAS MORE
DETAILS OF THE SITE, I DON’T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT IT
THE TOP OF MY HEAD. HAVE THE CONVERSATION ANDHIM CONNECTED
WITH THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE INDEPARTMENT.
WE’RE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCING
WAIT TIMES. The Speaker: MEMBER FOR
CUMBERLAND SOUTH.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
THANK THE FOR THAT. BAYVIEW IS NOT ONLY NURSING
HOME TO THE AREA, MR. SPEAKER. IT’S A EMPLOYER OF
AREA. LOCALS WORKED TO SEE THIS NURSING HOME COME TO
REALITY. MANY FAMILIES IN THE AREA ARE LOOKING TO THIS
FACILITY TO BE THERE WHEN THEIR LOVED ONES OR THEMSELVESNEED IT
IN TIME. THIS A PLACE IN THE FUNDY SHORE, GREAT
LOBSTERS AND SCALLOPS. WOULD
THE MINISTER COME TO THE HARBOUR AND THIS NURSING HOME WITH
MYSELF. MR. SPEAKER, THE DINNER ON ME WILL
COME TO THE HARBOUR. The Speaker: HONOURABLE
MINISTER HEALTH.
>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT’S ALWAYS A RISKY PROPOSITION
MEMBERS THIS LEGISLATURE TO RAISE THE QUESTION OF LOBSTER,
MR. SPEAKER. A REPRESENTATIVE FOR ANTIGONISH ON
ST. GEORGE’S BAY, MR. SPEAKER, THE STRAIT, I MAY HAVE A
DIFFERING OPINION AS TO WHERE THE BEST LOBSTER COMES FROM.
BUT AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER, UP THIS CONVERSATION
OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER AND SEE WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS AND ANY
OUTSTANDING REQUESTS FROM THAT PARTICULAR SITE HOW THAT
FITS IN WITH THE OTHER WORK ONGOING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AS
STRENGTHEN THE SUPPORT FOR LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES. THOSE
PEOPLE WHO BOTH WORK AND RESIDE IN THESE FACILITIES IN
THE PROVINCE. The Speaker: MEMBER FOR
COLCHESTER-MUSQUODOBOIT VALLEY.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MY
QUESTION FOR THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AND HOUSING.
ON SEPTEMBER 16th, ON A LOGGING CAUGHT A HOLD OF POWER
LINES. IT TORE THEM DOWN, BLEW OUT THE TRANSFORMER. THE EVENT
SAW THE MASS RIPPED A HOUSE. THIS CONSTITUENT IS A SENIOR ON
LIMITED INCOME. FOR TWO DAYS AND SHE WENT WITHOUT
POWER WHILE SHE SCRAMBLEDCOME UP WITH $1200 GET IT
REPAIRED. A FAMILY MEMBER ASSISTED HER WITH THE
EXPECTATION THE MONEY BE REIMBURSED. MY QUESTION FOR THE
MINISTER IS IS THERE FUNDING IN PLACE THAT COULD ASSIST SENIORS
CASES SUCH AS THIS? The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.>> YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
THANK THE THE QUESTION. HEARD OF THAT
ACTUAL SITUATION, BUT I’M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE MEMBER TO LOOK
AT PROGRAMS THAT AVAILABLE. WE A VARIETY OFTHROUGH SENIORS
AND INCOME AND WORK THAT CAN DONETHEIR
HOMES. THAN HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH THE HONOURABLE MEMBER ABOUT THAT INCIDENT. THANK YOU.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR
COLCHESTER-MUSQUODOBOIT.>>THANK YOU FOR ANSWER. A
PERSON WOULD GO THROUGH INSURANCE NORMALLY. THE COMPANY
DID STEP UP TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. THEOWNING
TRUCK. THE DRIVER DID NOT STOP. JUST KEPT RIGHT
ON GOING. THE SAME CONSTITUENT HAD AN ACCIDENT A WHILE AGO THAT
HAD TO GO THROUGH INSURANCE AND HER INSURANCE UP. SO TO
CLAIM AGAIN, SHE JUST CANNOT IT. HER INSURANCE WOULD
GO UP SO MUCH. SO IS THERE EMERGENCY FUNDING IN THE
HOUSING? WE TALK ABOUT THIS, TO HELP HOMEOWNERS WITH
UNEXPECTED THAT OCCUR?
The Speaker: MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. TO THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER. THERE IS THE LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS GRANTS AVAILABLE THAT
WE HAVE HAD FOR SOME TIME NOW. THERE ARE OTHER EMERGENCY REPAIR
GRANTS EXIST, AS WELL. FROM OWN EXPERIENCE, WE USED
MANY TIMES. WE’RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH MEMBER
IN SITUATION. UNFORTUNATE. BUT JUST CONTACT ME HONOURABLE
MEMBER, CHECK FURTHER THAT.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
>> SPEAKER, QUESTION IS FOR THE MINISTER FOR
HOUSING. WHILE RENT SUPPLEMENTS CAN BE EFFECTIVE TO BRIDGE GAPS
IS A SHORTAGE OF SOCIAL HOUSING FOR
CLIENTS, WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT IS INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO ASSIGN
RENT SUPPLEMENTS DUE TO THE LOW VACANCY RATE AND HOUSING RENTS.
I’LL TABLE AN ARTICLE ONE PERSON WHO REFUSED A RENT
SUPPLEMENT BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT FIND AN AFFORDABLE APARTMENT
WITH THE FUNDING. 30 PEOPLE ON THE
HOUSING WAIT TURNED DOWN A SUPPLEMENT. OF THE 500
SUPPLEMENTS TARGETED TO BE ASSIGN THIS YEAR, THE
MINISTER TABLE HOW MANY HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ASSIGNED TO A NOVA
SCOTIAN LOOKING FOR HOUSING? The Speaker: MINISTER FOR
HOUSINGS NOVA SCOTIA.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US ACROSS THE PROVINCE. WE HAVE A NUMBER
OF RENT SUPPLEMENTS THAT DO GET ASSIGNED YEAR. I BELIEVE
OR MORE. WE’RE ON TARGET FOR THAT YEAR. RENT
SUPPLEMENTS ARE INDEED IMPORTANT TO INCOME NOVA SCOTIANS. WE
HOUSING SUPPORT WORKERS WHO ARE A GREAT TEAM OF WHO
ASSIST THAN FOLKS IN FINDING HOUSING IN THE HRM.
WE’LL CONTINUE WITH IS A GOOD PROGRAMS.
WE HAVE BEEN TO THE FIRST THREE YEAR ACTION PLAN OF THE TEN
HOUSING STRATEGY HUNDREDS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING
INVESTED, MR. SPEAKER, ACROSS THE PROVINCE FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING NEEDS. THANKMUCH. The Speaker: THANKMUCH. THE
TIME ALLOTTED FOR ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO
MINISTERS EXPIRED. HONOURABLE HOUSE LEADER FOR OFFICIAL
OPPOSITION.>> OF ORDER. WE SAWLEADER OF
THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION EJECTED FOR HECKLING.
I HAVE SEEN TIMES. I DEFER TO YOUR JUDGMENT ON MATTER.
I REFER TO RULES OF THE HOUSE. LOOKING AT THEM, I
WAS QUESTION, MR. SPEAKER, IS NECESSARY TO
CREATE A NEW SUBSECTION UNDER CLAUSE 13 FOR CONDUCT OF
MEMBERS. THE PREMIER MISCHARACTERIZED WHAT MEMBERS ON
THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE SAY TO SUIT HIS NARRATIVE. TAKE
IT UNDER ADVISEMENT. AND COME BACK
THE HOUSE. WE’LL MOVE ON TO GOVERNMENT BUSINESS. THE
HONOURABLE GOVERNMENT HOUSE LEADER.
>>PLEASE CALL ADDRESS AND REPLY.
The Speaker: MEMBER FOR COBEQUID.>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. RISE TODAY FOR THE
ADDRESS AND REPLY ALSO KNOWN AS THE MAIDEN
SPEECH. I’M LAST OF THE BYELECTION CLASS OF 2019 TO DO
SO. I LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MEMBERS FROM
NORTHSIDE WESTMOUNT, SYDNEY RIVER, MIRA LOUISBOURG ON THEIR
MAIDEN SPEECHES, AS WELL. I’M HERE, MR. SPEAKER, SERVING AT
PLEASURE OF VOTERS OF SACKVILLE COBEQUID WHO ELECTED
IN JUNE 18th, 2019 ALL THE PEOPLE OF
SACKVILLE COBEQUID AS THEIR MEMBER OF HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
OF NOVA SCOTIA. IT IS INDEED AN HONOUR AND PRIVILEGE. AWESOME
RESPONSIBILITY THAT I DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY. I WILL UPHOLD
THEIR TRUST PLACED TO THE BEST OF ABILITY. ON JULY 10
JULY 10th, 2019, I WAS SWORN BY THE CHIEF CLERK AND SINCE
COMMENCING THIS SESSION OFHOUSE SOME FOUR AGO, I
HAVE ENJOYED LIKE YOU AND THE OTHER MEMBERS THE RIGHTS,
PRIVILEGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AFFORDED TO A MEMBER THE NOVA
SCOTIA LEGISLATURE. FOR THIS, MR. SPEAKER, I YOU AND ALL
MEMBERS FOR WELCOMING ME AS RESPECTED EQUAL. IN MYAGE AND MANY YEARS
OF DRINKING BLACK COFFEE, HOT BLACK COFFEE,
SOMETIMES MY VOICE WILL FADE. AND SO AS IN THIS
HAVE ATTEMPTED TO FIGURE THE MICROPHONE SYSTEM
HERE AND WHETHER I SHOULD SPEAK LOUDLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AS MY
WIFE WOULD TELL ME, OR TO JUST SPEAK NATURALLY AND LET THE
TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNICIANS TAKE CARE OF THINGS. BUT BEFORE I
CONTINUE, I WANT MAKE MENTION OF MY IMMEDIATE PREDECESSOR AND
LONG TIME ACQUAINTANCE, DAVE WILSON REPRESENTED SACKVILLE
COBEQUID CONSTITUENTS FOR 15 YEARS.
[APPLAUSE]>>AS DEMONSTRATED, I
BELIEVE ALL PARTIES RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF DAVE. WHAT
HE MADE TO THIS LEGISLATURE AND GOOD GOVERNMENT THE YEARS.
NOW I HAVE A CONFESSION MAKE. A CONFESSION AS ROOKIE AND
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NEW TO ME. ON OCCASION, MR. SPEAKER, I
EXITED THE CHAMBER AND DID NOT BOW TO YOU, THE SPEAKER AND THE
MEMBER WHO WAS SPEAKING. I WILL TELL YOU THAT SIX YEARS
AS A COUNCILLOR, IONCE BOWED TO HIS WORSHIP, MAYOR
SAVAGE. SERGEANT-AT-ARMS BROUGHT TO ATTENTION. I
HIM THAT. I NOW. ON ANOTHER
OCCASION DURING PERIOD, I CHECKING MY DEVICE
AND ADVISED THE MEMBER FROM CUMBERLAND SOUTH IT WAS NOT
PERMITTED. TODAY THE MEMBER FROM BARRINGTON ARGYLE REMINDED
ME THE SAME THING. [LAUGHTER]
>> ASSURE YOU, MR. SPEAKER, IN THE LAST 30 IT HAS NOT HAPPENED. AS ROOKIE I’M LIKE
BEING TO MAKE A FEW MORE FAUX FAUX
FAUX FAUX
PAS. I EACH ANDMEMBER OF THIS HOUSE OF
ASSEMBLY. I WAS ELECTED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF SACKVILLE
COBEQUID, AND YOU IN TURN REPRESENT PEOPLE IN
CONSTITUENCIES, WE’RE ALL ELECTED AS BODY TO SERVE ALL
NOVA SCOTIANS. YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO
CONSTRUCTIVELY WITH EACH AND OF YOU ON BEHALF OF
ALL NOVA SCOTIANS. NEXT FEW MINUTES, I THINK HAVE 90, I
WILL THANK SOME PEOPLE, YOU WILL LET ME AND LET ME A BIT
ABOUT STEVE CRAIG, PROVIDE SOME SACKVILLE HISTORY MENTION A
FEW, NOT ISSUES ON MY MIND AND OTHER PEOPLE’S MINDS. I
FIRST WOULD LIKE THANK MY LEADER. THE LEADER OF THE
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF NOVA SCOTIA, THE LEADER OF
THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION, MEMBER FOR PICTOU
EAST AND PC CAUCUS AND PARTY. I THANK YOU ALL. ITO
THANK THE PEOPLE OF SACKVILLE COBEQUID FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THEM AS THEIR MLA. THIS IS AN HONOUR
AND THAT TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. I’LL ENDEAVOUR TO
SERVE TO THE UTMOST OF MY ABILITY WITH RESPECT TO AND
DEDICATION TO THE ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY. MR. SPEAKER, IF
I COULD MAKE A FEW INTRODUCTIONS. I WOULD ASK THE
FULL FRONT TWO ROWS TO STAND AND I’M GOING TO START AT THE LEFT.
MR. MIKE McDONALD, WHO HAS BEEN CAMPAIGN WORKER HERE. SOME
OF YOU MAY HIM AS, HIS FATHER WAS EDITOR, PUBLISHER,
CAPE BRETON NEWSPAPER FOR MANY YEARS AND LONG LIBERAL.
IT’S BEEN WHEN HE WAS WORKING TOGETHER, THAT HIS
FATHER DIDN’T OVER IN HIS GRAVE. HE WAS ACTUALLY
ATTEMPTING TO CLAW OUT. [LAUGHTER]
>>NEXT TO HIM IS MRS. KAREN SMITH, CONSTITUENCY ASSISTANT
WHO I AM BLESSED TO HAVE MY LIFE AND SHE IS THE OTHER WOMAN
IN MY LIFE BESIDES MY WIFE WHO TELLS ME WHAT TO DO CONSISTENTLY WHEN. MADISON RICHARDSON,
GRADE 12 STUDENTS WHO HAS CAMPAIGNED DOOR-TO-DOORPERFORMED
A OF GREAT WORK IN THE CONSTITUENCY. GRADE 11.
10? OK. THE MEMBER IN FRONT OF ME ME. I UNDER FORGIVE HIM FOR
THAT.>>GRADE TEN, BAKER,
CLASSMATE. THESE TWO HAVE MEMBERS OF SEA KA CADETS AND
WORKED GREATLY IN THE COMMUNITY. THEN
WE HAVE ALEXIS RICHARDSON, ALEXIS HAS BEEN A FAMILY FRIEND.
MADISON, AND ALEXIS AND NEXT TO THEM THEIR MOTHER AREFAMILY TO
MY I. ALMOST LIKE A DAUGHTER AND
GRANDDAUGHTERS. NOW, KERNA RICHARDSON HAS BEEN CAMPAIGNING
TIMES. IN FACT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT I TAKE MYNOW AND
KERNA COULD FINISHFOR ME. USED TO MOCK ME.
YOU DID THIS. YOU COULD SEE HER BEHIND ME GOING – HURRY UP. A
LONG TIME FRIEND. BEAUTIFUL. SKIP ONE. GEORGE AND BETTY LA
FONTAINE. LONG FRIENDS. GEORGE IS RETIRED MILITARY.
THANK YOU FOR SERVICE, GEORGE. BETTY, SOME OF YOU MAY
BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH BETTY AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. IN HER
FIRST LANGUAGE, FRENCH, ACADIAN FRENCH. GEORGE, IF YOUSOMETHING
DONE RIGHT, GEORGE. A RETIRED CHIEF IN
THE AND CAN ANYTHING. HE COULD THIS WOODWORK HERE.
IN THE FRONT ROW, WE HAVE BRENDA AND JOHN – BRENDA AND.
BRENDA AN ACCOMPLISHED ARTIST. JOHN, SOME OF YOU MAY
RECOGNIZE AS A LEADER OF THE GREEN PARTY OF NOVA SCOTIA.
AND A MEMBER OF THE GREEN PARTY. HAS WORKED. WE
A FRIENDSHIP OVER THE MANY YEARS AND AS JOHN
HE’S NOT THE GUY SUPPORTING THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES,
HE’S PERSON. I THAT.
[APPLAUSE]>>JOHN’S LINE I RECALL
HE STEPPED DOWN AS LEADER, HE HAD CATARACT SURGERY
SAID THE THING WE IN THIS PROVINCE IS ANOTHER
LEADER VISION. [LAUGHTER]
>> LOVE OF MY LIFE, MY WIFE SHERRY CRAIG. SHERRY AND IBEEN
MARRIED 44 YEARS. I’LL HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUTLATER.
[APPLAUSE]>> YOU TO ALL FOR
HERE TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, THAT. FAMILY
FRIENDS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US. SO MY AND
DAD, I’LL SPEAK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT. A OF HISTORY
OF SACKVILLE. SO MOMSO MOM AND DAD BUILT IN
THAT SUCCESSIVE GOVERNMENTS THROUGH NOVA SCOTIA HOUSING
COMMISSION EXPANDED THE SERVICE LAND AVAILABILITY AND THAT LED TO VERY RAPID GROWTH. SACK
CHARLOTTESVILLE WAS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITIES IN
ALL OF CANADA BACK IN THE LATE 60s, EARLY 70ST. COOPERATIVES
WERE FORMED. IN PARTICULARLY, MILITARY FAMILIES AND THOSE
LOOKING AND OTHERS TOOK ADVANTAGE AS
MILITARY PEOPLE PUT TOGETHER FOUR OR FIVE, SIX FAMILIES AND
FORM COOPERATIVES.
THE INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO PUT IN THEIR OWN SWEAT EQUITY SO SACKVILLE GREW
IMMENSELY BACK IN THE LATE 60s, EARLY 70s. WHEN WE MOVED OUT
THERE, SACKVILLE HIGH SCHOOL WAS NOT BUILT. CO
ALLEN WAS IN BEDFORD. YOU HAD PEOPLE ALL GOING TO THIS ONE HIGH SCHOOL.
AS PART OF THIS ASSEMBLY, THEY BUILT THE FIRST HIGH SCHOOL. IT
OPENED UP IN 1972. I MOVED OUT THERE IN 1971. ALONG WITH MY
WIFE, WE WERE THE LAST CLASSES OF CP ALLEN. I REMEMBER WALKING
DOWN GLENDALE WHICH WAS NOT PAVED
BECAUSE WE WANTED LOCKERS. THE HIGH SCHOOL CAME ABOUT. SOME OF
YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THE NAME GEORGE DOUCETTE. IF YOU EVER
WONDER WHEN IT OPENED UP, THINK ABOUT THE CANADA-RUSSIA SERIES.
THAT WAS IN THE FALL OF 72. BUT GEORGE DOUCETTE
DID BECOME FROM THE MEMBER THE LARGEST CONSTITUENCY AT THE
TIME. NOT IN GEOGRAPHY, BUT IN POPULATION.
SO 45 YEARS OR SO AGO, GEORGE TALKED ABOUT CITIZENS LOOKING
FORWARD TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF, YOU MAY RECOGNIZE, THE BEDFORD
BYPASS. SO SOME 40, 50 YEARS AGO. SACKVILLE WAS THE
4th LARGEST URBAN COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 25,000, 30,000, 40,000
PEOPLE IN NOVA SCOTIA AND THE TALK OF THE CIVIC STATUS ON ON
EVERYONE’S TONGUE. MUCH LATER WE HAD THE AMALGAMATION OF THE
HALIFAX COUNTY, THE TOWN OF BEDFORD, AND OTHERS. AT THE
SAME TIME THERE WAS MUCH TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE
BEING NEEDED AS WELL AS PUBLIC TRANSIT. WE ARE ALSO KNOWN, YOU
MAY RECOGNIZE THIS, FOR SACKVILLE DRIVE IN THEATRE.
ANYONE REMEMBER THAT? SACKVILLE DOWNS, HARNESS RACING.
THESE HAVE BEEN REPLACED. THEY HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY THE
ATLANTIC SUPER STORE AND THE MALL COMPLEXES. SACKVILLE HAS
GROWN TREMENDOUSLY AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXPERIMENT
HAS GROWN A TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY HERE IN THE HRM AND NOVA SCOTIA. MALCOLM MACKAY WAS THE NEXT MLA.
AT THAT TIME THE CONSTITUENCY WAS KNOWN AS SACKVILLE. MALCOLM EMPHASIZED THAT WE WERE THE LARGER COMMUNITY. THAN WORK
CAME ABOUT FROM THE WORK OF THE PC MLAST s — WELL, SURELY THERE WERE TWO
NURSES WHO ADVOCATED FOR THE COMMUNITY OR MULTI SERVICE
CENTRE. WHAT WAS UNIQUE ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT WAS THE FIRST
FREE-STANDING EMERGENCY CENTRE IN THAT. IT WAS VERY INNOVATIVE
AT THE TIME. IT BROUGHT TOGETHER IMAGINING, LAB, BROUGHT
IN IW K SERVICES AND SOME COMMUNITY SERVICES. ALL OF
THESE WERE VERY INNOVATIVE BACK THERE. KEVIN MC NAMERA WAS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR AND I WAS ON THE HEALTH BOARD. EVERY FACILITY HAD ITS
OWN HEALTH BOARD. I WAS ON THAT HEALTH BOARD. JUST TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF WORK IS BEING DONE. I HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT IN A
MINUTE. GUESS WHO CAME AFTER? JOHN HOME, THE NDP MLA WHO I
KNEW AND RESPECTED IMMENSELY. I KNEW HIM FOR MANY YEARS. HE
LIVED DOWN THE STREET FROM WHERE MY WIFE WAS BORN AND BROUGHT UP.
HE WAS A FORMIDABLE PERSON. HE AND ALEXEI MCDONOUGH WERE JUST
TERRIFIC. BUT JOHN SPOKE OF THE TREMENDOUS STRENGTH OF THE
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE GROWING SO IN SACKVILLE YOU HAD PEOPLE
WHO WERE ACTUALLY ENGAGED, ENGAGED IN NOT ONLY BUILDING
THEIR BUILDINGS, THEIR HOMES BUT THE COMMUNITIES, THE LIONS CAME
ABOUT. SACKVILLE PATRIATE DAYS CAME ABOUT, THE KENSMEN,
ROTARIAN, MANY, MANY ORGANIZATIONS. LIKE DISTRICT
RECOGNITION ASSOCIATION ALL CAME ABOUT. MR. SPEAKER, PERMISSION
TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION? THANK YOU. LUCILLE READ, PLEASE STAND
UP. LUCILLE HAS BEEN IN ALL MY ELECTIONS. I HAVE NO NOTE AS
WITH KARNA, BOTH OF THOSE TWO WORKING ON MY ELECTIONS, I HAVE
ALWAYS WON THEN THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I
HAVE THEM LINED UP FOR THE NEXT ONE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE,
LUCILLE. THESE GROUPS, YOU KNOW, THINKING COMING FROM THE
MILITARY, IT WAS VERY COMPETITIVE, BUT YET
COLLABORATIVE. A LOT OF FUN. AND WE HAVE WHAT WAS CALLED THE SACKVILLE WINTER CARNIVAL. THE
CARNIVAL WAS A WEEK LONG PLUS OF EVENTS CURLING IN THE ARENA OR
ON THE LAKE, GATHERING OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS WITH YOUR
TOQUES AND YOUR MEMORABILIA TO IDENTIFY WHERE YOU WERE FROM IN
THE COMMUNITY. GREAT. IT WAS MODEL AFTER SNOW WHITE AND THE
SEVEN DWARFS. SO YOU HAD SEVEN AREAS AND I WAS AND AT TIMES AM
STILL BASHFUL. I’M SURE, MR. SPEAKER THAT IS OBVIOUS TO MOST
OF YOU HERE. DISNEY BECAME AWARE OF THIS AND ENFORCED LEGAL
NAME RIGHTS AND OVER TIME THE CARNIVAL CEASED. WHAT THE
INTRODUCTION IN 2015 OF NOVA SCOTIA HERITAGE DAY ON THE THIRD
MONDAY IN FEBRUARY, UNDER THE SACKVILLE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION,
THE SNOW DAYS FESTIVAL WAS INTRODUCED. THIS YEAR IT’S
GOING TO PLACE FROM FEBRUARY 14th TO 17th IN 2020. AGAIN, AN
EFFORT TO REJUVENATE IS COMMUNITY SPIRIT. THE LARGEST
CONCERN OF THE DAY WAS THE POPULATION OUTGROWING THE SCHOOL
CAPACITY. WHEN I TALKED ABOUT FIRST MOVING HERE AND WENT TO
SYDNEY STEVEN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN CAME ABOUT SACKVILLE HIGH
SCHOOL, AS THINGS GREW, YOU HAD DOUBLE CLASSES IN SACKVILLE.
THE POPULATION WAS OUTSTRIPPING THE CAPACITY OF THE HIGH
SCHOOLS. THEN CAME MILLWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, LOCKVIEW. I AM
FORTUNATE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM THAT MANY
AREAS OF NOVA SCOTIA HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED AND THAT’S POSITIVE
GROWTH. AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATE. I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE ALL PARTS OF NOVA SCOTIA PROSPER AND GROW, NOT JUST SOME.
SO WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT AS A LEGISLATURE, AS THE GOVERNMENT.
TRANSPORTATION, AGAIN, WAS ALSO A CONCERN AND TODAY STILL, THE
BEAVER BANK ROAD COLLECTS MANY, MANY PEOPLE AND IT’S ONLY TWO
LANES. IT GOES DOWN TO WHAT JON MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE BEAVER
BANK CONNECTER AND THE OLD SACKVILLE OLD. THE CONNECTOR
AND THE OLD ROAD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM AREA FOR MANY, MANY,
MANY YEARS. I WAS PLEASED TO WORK WITH I’M PLEASED TO
ACTNOWLEDGE THE MINISTER FOR HIS WORK IN THIS AREA FOR ME. AS A
MUNICIPALITY COUNCILLOR. THEY HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE. THEY
REALLY HAVE. AND I WANT TO THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT,
MINISTER. THE CORRECTIONAL CENTRE, WHICH IS KNOW LOCATED IN
BURN SIDE, WAS LOCATED IN SACKVILLE. YOU MAY ASK WHY. WE
WEREN’T ALL THAT BAD. [ Laughter ]
BUT THE CORRECTIONAL CENTRE HAS MOVED TO BURN SIDE UNDER THAT
PERIOD IT WAS UNDER THE METROPOLITAN AUTHORITY. IT
FREED UP SOME LAND FOR THE NEW MULTI SERVICE CENTRE NOW CALLED
THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRE. THIS IS A WONDERFUL FACILITY.
LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY. SO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRE NOW,
JOHN HOME TALKED ABOUT IT, DAVE WILSON TALKED ABOUT IT. I WAS
ON THE BOARD AND CHAIRED THAT BOARD FOR SOME TIME. WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT CLOSURES OF EMERGENCY ROOMS, ERs, SACKVILLE DOES IN
THE NOT HAVE A 24 HOUR EMERGENCY AND THERE’S FOR GOOD REASON.
BUT IT IS THE BEST, IN MY OPINION, OPERATING EMERGENCY
ROOM IN THE PROVINCE. SO MUCH SO THAT WE TAKE AND SERVICE
PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND WITH NO HOSPITAL BEDS HAVE TO BE VERY
CAREFUL IN HOW YOU TREAT THE PEOPLE AND MOVE THEM OFF TO
EITHER THE QEII OR DARTMOUTH GENERAL. SO THAT’S CAUSING A
BACKLOG. WHEN WE LOOKED AT HAVING THIS SET UP, ONE OF
THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS HAVING A WALK IN CLINIC. AND WE LOOKED
AT THE WALK IN CLINICS. A LOT OF THE LOCAL PHYSICIANS AT THAT
TIME WORKED IN EMERGENCY ROOMS. AND THEY RECOGNIZED THAT A LOT
OF PEOPLE WERE COMING INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHO DID THOT HAVE
TO BE THERE. — NOT. THEY REQUIRED A DOCTOR, A PHYSICIAN,
THEY REQUIRED A MEDICATION, SOMEBODY TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT
THEM. AND SO DR. JIM FITZGERALD AND OTHERS FORMED THE WALK-IN
CLINIC JUST DOWN THE ROAD. AND YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE
THIS PAST NUMBER OF MONTHS, IT DID CLOSE DUE TO LACK OF
DOCTORS. NOW IT HAS REOPENED. THANKFULLY IT WAS REOPENED. DO
YOU WANT YOUR FLU SHOT? THEY ARE ADVERTISING YOU CAN GET YOUR
FLU SHOT. BUT THE IDEA OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM IS TO HAVE
EMERGENCY SERVICE. NOT YOUR GENERAL PRACTICE TISSINGER
SERVICE. THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AND WE IMPLEMENTED
TRIAGE AND GAVE THE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR THE
OPTION. YOU CAN WAIT. YOU ARE NOT HIGH ON THE PRIORITY.
THERE’S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT BY A GENERAL
PHYSICIAN. DR. FITZGERALD AND OTHERS OPENED UP THIS CLINIC TO
KEEP PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE EMERGENCY WHERE THEY OUGHT NOT
BE. BUT GIVE THEM AN OPTION TO BE SERVICED. THAN WORKED. THAT
WORKED WELL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND NOW WE ARE SEEING IT
REVERSED. WE ARE SEEING A REVERSAL THAT NEED NOT, IN MY
OPINION, HAPPEN. NOW WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE GOING TO THE ER
THAT OUGHT NOT BE THERE. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT AND
RETAIN NEW DOOK OR THES. I WILL TELL — DOCTORS. MY PHYSICIAN,
IF NOT THE OLDEST, HE’S THE SECOND OLDEST IN THE PROVINCE.
AND I HAVE NOT ABANDONED HIM. I DON’T GO DR. TOM WHO HAS BEEN A
FAMILY FRIEND AND MY PHYSICIAN FOR CLOSE TO 50 YEARS NOW. HE
IS GOING TO RETIRE. HE’S GOING TO RETIRE SOON. I HAVE NOT PUT
MY NAME ON THE WAITING LIST, BUT I KNOW THAT ONCE HE GOES, A LOT
OF PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER POSITION. HE’S HOLD ING
ON AS BEST WE CAN. SO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRE IS A
WONDERFUL FESTIVAL. YOU HAVE REHAB,
PHYSIO FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD SURGERIES. IT IS A WONDERFUL
FESTIVAL RIGHT IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY. WE ARE SO BLESSED.
I’M SO BLESSED TO HAVE SO MANY RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ANOTHER DIRECTOR AND I DID WAS WE HAD
AND ADVOCATED FOR WITH CANCER CARE NOVA SCOTIA AND OTHERS TO
HAVE A CANCER CLINIC LOWTED AT THE HEALTH CONCERN.
THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. SO NOW
RATHER THAN COMING DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN GO TO A MUCH WARMER,
FRIENDLY PLACE USUALLY TO GET REAL GOOD NEWS. THAN HAS BEEN
IMPLEMENTED — AND THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED. I’M SURE THE
MINISTER WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL. SO DAVE WILSON, HE CAME
ON BOARD IN ABOUT 2003, THE YEAR BEFORE I RETIRED AND HE’S VERY
INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. HE WAS A PARAMEDIC. HE WAS A
PARAMEDIC, WELL RESPECTED. HAD A NUMBER OF MEDICAL PEOPLE
PARAMEDICS AND OTHERS HELP HIM IN HIS CAMPAIGNS. HE GREW UP THERE, HE
SPOKE OF EDUCATION, COMMUNITY, ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTH AND DAVE
OFTEN SPOKE OF THE NEED AGAIN FOR MORE DOCTORS AND A 24-HOUR
EMERGENCY CARE AT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRE. WE NEED TO EVOLVE. WE DO INDEED HAVE A
CRISIS HERE IN NOVA SCOTIA IN HAVING DOCTOR ANSWER WE NEED TO
ADDRESS THAT AND WE ARE AND WE ARE TALK ABOUT IT AND WILL WILL
CONTINUE TO DO SO. WE HAD SACKVILLE LAKES PROVINCIAL PARK
PROCLAIMED. SO THINK ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY THAT’S BUILDING.
BUILDING, BUILDING. YOU GET PEOPLE IN THERE.
OVER THE DECADES, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT IT’S REALLY REAL
QUICK. WE THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH. WE DON’T NEED ANY MORE HOUSES.
SO THE SACKVILLE LAKES PROVINCIAL PARK WAS DESTINED NO
BE HOUSING. IT WAS DESTINED TO HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MORE
RESIDENTS THERE. IN FACT WHEN KARNA AND OTHERS WERE
CAMPAIGNING, WE WOULD OFTEN COME BY THIS LITTLE BREAK, THIS BREAK
IN THE STREET AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WHAT IS THAT? A VACANT
LOT? NO, IT WAS STREET. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THAT IN
SACKVILLE. BUT I’M VERY THANKFUL TO ALL THE PREVIOUS
GOVERNMENTS THAT DID AWAY WITH THAT AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE DO NEED MORE FOR THE RESPECT, WE NEED PARKS, WE NEED
RECREATION. I CERTAINLY APPLAUD ALL THE GROUPS INVOLVED AND I
WAS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE PEOPLE FIRST AND FOREMOST IN THAT
ORGANIZATION AS WELL. SO WHAT ABOUT ME? I’M ONE WHO BELIEVES THAT ALL
ARE EQUAL AND DESERVING OF RESPECT. IT WAS MY PARENTED
THAT DEMONSTRATING THAT TO ME AND REALLY INSTILLED IT IN ME.
MOM WAS A NURTURING. HE WORKED TO HELP THE LESS FORTUNATE.
AFTER WE WERE OLD ENOUGH, MOM WENT BACK TO SCHOOL. BECAME A
SOCIAL WORKER AND WORKED IN HALIFAX. SHE ALSO STARTED UNDER
SAINT VINCENT DEPAUL SOCIETY, THE FOOD BANK IN SACKVILLE.
IT’S CALLED BEACON HOUSE. AND IT’S GROWN TREMENDOUSLY. ONE OF
THE PEOPLE, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED THERE AS STUDENTS,
ONE WAS A FELLOW BY THE NAME OF JEFF
REGAN, IT’S THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. JEFF AND I
HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR DECADES. AND MY MOM WOULD BE
VERY PROUD OF WHAT JEFF HAS ACCOMPLISHED. AND I KNOW THAT
HE HAD WORKED HARD TO HELP THOSE LESS FORTUNATE AND I CHERISH
THAT. BUT MOM DID THAT. IT BECAME AT ONE POINT — IT WAS
CALLED THE BEACON HOUSE INTERFAITH SOCIETY. I ASKED MOM
WHY AT ONE TIME, WHY THE CHANGE IN NAME. AND THE EXPANSION OF
THE GOVERNANCE. AND HER ANSWER WAS SPOT ON. SHE SAID, I
USUALLY HEARD THAT WHEN I WAS IN TROUBLE, I KNEW I STEPPED THE
LINE SOMEHOW, STEVEN, MORE THAN CATHOLICS GO HUNGRY. MORE THAN
CATHOLICS GO HUNGRY. TO FEED THE POOR IS AN ADMIRABLE THING.
TO HELP THOSE WHO HAVE LESS THAN YOU IS A MISSION THAT I TAKE ON.
IT’S ONE THAT MY MOTHER HAD AND IT’S ONE I WILL DON’T DO SHE
INSTILLED IN ME A BELIEF IN GOD, FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE OF JESUS AND HELPING
OTHERS AND FOLLOWING THE COUNSEL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
DAD WAS THE NAVY CHIEF AND HE WAS THE PROVIDER. AND INSTALLED
ME IN DISCIPLINE AND LOVE OF COUNTRY. HE WAS A VETERAN OF
WORLD WAR TWO AND THE KOREAN CONFLICT AND HE BELIEVED IN NOT
ONLY THE SOVEREIGNTY OF CANADA BUT THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS OF
OTHERS WHO HE FOUGHT FOR. SO NOT ONLY CANADA BUT TO HELP
OTHERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES. HE KNEW NO BOUNDS. THEY BOTH LOST
THEIR FATHERS AS AN EARLY AGE SO THEY WERE SUPPORTED BY SINGLE
MOMS. THEY WERE BROUGHT UP AROUND HALIFAX. MY GREAT, GREAT
GRANDFATHER USED TO LEAD THE ST.
PATRICK’S DAY PARADE. MY GRANDMOTHERS LIVED IN
MELGRAVE PARK. MY PATERNAL GRANT MOTHER LIVES ON BRUNSWICK
STREET. AND THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT I COME FROM. SO WE LIVED
ON NORTH SIDE AND YONGE STREET IN THE FORMATIVE YEARS. BECAUSE
DAD WAS IN THE NAVY WE MOVED AROUND.
I DON’T KNOW IF WE MOVED AROUND BECAUSE THEY COULDN’T AFFORD THE
RENT OR NOT. THEY NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT WE MOVED AROUND A
LOT. SO WE FINALLY GOT INTO THE WALLACE HEIGHTS AND THOSE WERE
FORMATIVE YEARS I WENT TO SHANNON PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I WENT TO JUNIOR HIGH IN THE NORTH END. SPENT MANY —
BETWEEN CLASSES WALKING AROUND AND AROUND. IF YOU KNOW THE
SCHOOL, IT’S A ROUND SCHOOL. YOU CAN WALK AROUND. TEACHERS
CHASING ME OR UNTIL THEY LAPPED ME. I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
THERE AND THEN WENT TO DARTMOUTH HIGH SCHOOL. SO MY FORMATIVE
YEARS WERE IN THE NORTH END OF DARTMOUTH. AND I SAW SOME
THINGS THAT WE ALL TALK ABOUT AND MAYBE EVEN PARTICIPATED IN.
BUT THESE LIFE EXPERIENCES HELPED FORM WHO YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO WE
WENT TO SACKVILLE IN 71. I HAD A 30 YEAR CAREER WITH THE PHONE
COMPANY. STARTED IN ENGINEERING. WENT FROM
ENGINEERING TO SALES. SALES TO TOET MARKETING. MARKETING TO
FINANCE. FINANCE TO SALES. AT THE ENI
WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT’S BELL ALLIANCE BUSINESS SALES
PROCESSES, CALLED THE BUSINESS PROCESS OWNER. SO YOU’D MOVE
FROM ENGINEERING INTO SALES. THEY WOULD CALL YOU AN ENGINEER.
YOU MOVE FROM SALES INTO FINANCE, THEY CALL YOU A
SALESMAN. YOU WOULD MOVE FROM ONE TO ANOTHER, AND WHATEVER
DISCIPLINE THAT YOU WERE IN, THAT’S WHAT YOU WERE KNOWN AS.
WHEN I RETIRED, THERE WAS A FELL LE RESPONSIBLE FOR COSTING —
FELLOW — DIRECTOR AND WE WERE TALKING. AND I WAS IN THE SALES
ORGANIZATION, BUSINESS SALES SUPPORT ORGANIZATION AT THE
TIME. AND HE SAYS, AFTER THEY SPOKE ABOUT ME A BIT, HE CAME UP
AFTER AND SAID, I CAN NEVER KNOW — NEVER KNEW WHY SOMEBODY FROM
SALES KNEW SO DAMN MUCH AND IT’S BECAUSE I HAD DONE A LOT. OF
COURSE DOING A LOT MEANS THAT YOU AGE A LOT. SO AFTER 30
YEARS, I RETIRED IN 2004. BUT THROUGH
THAT, IT ALL CAME BACK TO PEOPLE. MANAGING PEOPLE, WORKING WITH PEOPLE,. RACISM
AND SEXISM WERE ALIVE AND WELL AS IT WAS IN MOST ORGANIZATIONS
AND STILL IS. AND I HAD PEOPLE WHO PROTECTED ME BECAUSE I STOOD
UP. AND I WENT SO FAR IN MY CAREER, BECAUSE I STOOD UP. AS
A KID, I TOOK ON THE BULLIES AND MOM WOULD SAY I WAS — SHE WAS
THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD SEE ME CRY. SOMETIMES I CAME OUT ON
TOP. SOMETIMES I DIDN’T. BUT THE ONE THING FROM MY PARENTS
THAT I DID LIRN WAS THE STICK UP FOR — LEARN — FOR THOSE THAT
COULD NOT STICK FUR THEMSELVES. SO I HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF
THINGS OVER THE YEARS. IN MY COMMUNITY WORK, ORGANIZATIONS,
WHETHER IT BE THE CANADIAN CANCER SOCIETY, WHETHER IT BE ROTARIAN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
WHO SERVED OTHERS AND MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WAS SO
IMPORTANT, BUT ONE THING IS MORE SURE, THIS I CAN TELL YOU, THAT
I WILL SEE SOMETHING WITH SOMEBODY BULLIED AND DEPENDING
ON THE SITUATION I WILL STEP IN IMMEDIATELY OR PRIVATELY. IT’S
NOT IN MY CHARACTER TO WALK AWAY OR TO IGNORE SOMETHING THAT I
FEEL IS UNJUST AND JUST NOT RIGHT. I DO RECOGNIZE RESPECT.
AND I GAVE RESPECT AND I ALWAYS WILL. SO OVER THOSE
MANY YEARS THERE, ARE — I WAS ELECTED IN CASE YOU DON’T KNOW,
IN 2012, I WAS A COUNCILLOR AND LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE THERE.
MY WIFE WILL TELL YOU IT’S USUALLY NOT THE TASK AT HAND
THAT KEEPS ME AWAY AT NIGHT, IT’S THE WHO ARE THE PEOPLE I
HAVE TO WORK WITH. SO OVER THE YEARS, YOU PICK UP
ON A FEW THINGS. THE VERY FIRST THING I LEARNED COMING FROM THE
FAMILY THAT I DID IS NOT EVERYONE LIKES YOU. AND ALSO
DELEGATE, BUT DO NOT ABDICATE. TRY TO MAKE LIFE EASIERS RATHER
THAN TOUGHER FOR PEOPLE. THIS IS A GOOD ONE. UNDERSTAND THAT
CHANGE AND DIFFICULT CHOICES ARE EMBRACED BY SOME AND FEARED BY
OTHERS. YOU HEARD ME SAY THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK,
I FORGET THE DAYS. DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID? DOES IT NEED TO BE
SAID NOW? AND DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID BY ME? I WILL ALWAYS ASK MYSELF THOSE QUESTIONS. I
WAS ON A SALES COURSE ONE TIME AND THERE WAS A MARINE CAPTAIN
WHO WAS GIVEN THE RESOURCE AND WAS ALL ABOUT STRATEGY AND
TACTICS, MILITARY STRATEGY AND TACTICS. AND I WAS JUST
ABSOLUTELY ANNOYED WITH THIS GUYS. AND COULDN’T FIGURE OUT
WHY. IT WAS ABOUT A TEN-DAY LIVING COURSE AND HE WAS JUST TO
GOOD. HE WAS EXCELLENT. AND I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT. THE
DEFINITION OF ANNOYANCE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. HE WAS SO GOOD
AND I WAS SO NOT AS GOOD. AND THAT ANNOYED THE HELL OUT OF ME.
SO I STRIVE TO BE BETTER. KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IT’S AND
EVER LEARNING THING AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO IT. IF YOU ARE
NOT HEALTHY, PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY, SPIRITUALLY, THEN IT
IS DIFFICULT TO HEALTH OTHERS OR IN OTHER WORDS YOU CANNOT HELP
OTHERS IF YOU CANNOT HELP YOURSELF. THAT GOES FOR EACH
AND EVERY ONE OF US AND EVERYONE THAT WE LOOK TO. THERE’S
ANOTHER ONE, THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE OF THE CRAIGISMS OR
WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND I BELIEVE IN R AND D, ROB
AND DUPLICATE. SOME OF THESE I MAY NOT GIVE APPROPRIATE SOURCE
TO. THE GOLDON RULE VERSUS THE PLATINUM. THE GOLDEN RULE,
TREAT OTHERS THE WAY HA YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED. THE
PLATINUM RULE TO ME IS TREAT OTHERS THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE
TO BE TREATED. TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. SO IN BUSINESS,
COMMUNITY, AND POLITICAL LIFE, THERE’S THINGS THAT YOU TAKE A
MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THAT YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT. ONE OF MOST
SIGNIFICANT THINGS TO ME THAT I WAS — THAT I HAVE DONE IN MY
POLITICAL CAREER, MAYBE CONTROVERSYCONTROVERSIAL, OR NOT, IT’S MY TIME AT THE HRM
POLICE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. I WAS ASKED TO CONSIDER BEING A
MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION AND SOME FELT IT WAS NOT PERFORMING
THE ROLE OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT THE WAY IT SHOULD. I TALKED
WITH THE MAYOR ABOUT IT AS THE TIME. I WAS ALREADY TAKING ON
QUITE A WORKLOAD. HE SAID TAKE A LOOK.
I AGREED. REGIONAL COUNCIL APPOINTED ME. AND I FOUND IN MY
OPINION THAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WERE REQUIRED BOTH IN EXERCISE
AND THE AUTHORITIES OF THE BOARD AND THE CORM SITUATION OF THE
COMMISSIONERS. FROM THE TIME I WAS ELECTED CHAIR, THE CHANGES
STARTED BY WORKING WITHIN THE AUTHORITIES AND CHANGING THE
LOOK OF THE BOARD. PLAYING AN ACTIVE AND DELIBERATE ROLE, I
LOOKED AT THE ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES,
ACCOUNTABILITIES, AND THE MAKE UP OF OUR CITIZENS. SO I SOUGHT
OUT TO MAKE THE BOARD MORE REFLECTIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WHEN I LEFT THE, BOARD WAS THE MOST DIVERSE BOARD IN CANADA,
MADE UP OF THREE AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIANS, ONE INDIGENOUS MEMBER
AND THREE WHITE NOVA SCOTIANS, FIVE MALE AND TWO FEMALE. NOW
WE HAVE FOUR MALES, THREE FEMALES, AND THE CHAIR IS AN
AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIA WOMAN. I’M VERY PROUD OF THAT. [ Applause ]
I’M PROUD BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT WE ARE INDEED A SERVICE
COMMUNITY. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU NEED
TO REFLECT YOUR COMMUNITY. DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES,
DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENT IS REQUIRED. I WANT TO MINISTER OF
JUSTICE FOR THE WORK THAT HE DID IN HELPING ME HAVE THE PROVINCE
APPOINT AN INDIGENOUS MEMBER. AND HA THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO
DO. THERE ARE — THERE ARE UNJUST TISES THAT ARE SYSTEMIC,
SYSTEMIC RACISM IS REAL. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. AND WE
CANNOT JUST FLIP A SWITCH AND BELIEVE THAT THINGS WILL GET
BETTER. THESE ARE CENTURIES OLD ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. THEY WILL
TAKE MANY GENERATIONS TO MOVE US TO WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE.
HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE AS
GOVERNMENT CAN DO THE SET THE STAGE TO IMPROVE. SO ONE OF THE
ADVANTAGES, I WILL LET YOU KNOW THIS TOO, WE HAD A DIVERSE
POLICE COMMISSION. WE HAD A DIVERSE SELECTION COMMITTEE. WE
CHOSE THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE SEARCH COMMITTEE WAS EQUALLY
DISTRIBUTED MALE-FEMALE AND WE HAD AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIAN,
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN THAT COMMITTEE. WE CHOSE AND
RECOMMENDED THAT A POLICE CHIEF. BUT HAVING A DIVERSE AND
INCLUSIVE FRAME WORK WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY, WE WERE ABLE TO
ATTRACT POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FROM AFRICAN DESCENT, MIDDLE EASTERN AND MALE
AND FEMALE. AND WE CHOSE WHO WE TAUGHT WAS
THE MOST COMPETENT IN TODAY’S TIME. I THINK CHIEF DAN IS
PROVING TO BE QUITE THAT PERSON. I WENT TO MOVE ON TO A FEW
ISSUES AND CONCERNS. HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, POVERTY, WE
HAVE THE TACKLE. COMMUNITY SERVICES TO HOME THOSE IN NEED,
TO HELP THE ONE THOUSAND UNDER THE PROTECTION OF COMMUNITY
SERVICES. HEALTH CARE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THIS HOUSE SINCE
SEPTEMBER 26th AND ON THE STREETS AND THE DOORSTEPS OF MANY RESIDENTS LONG BEFORE THAT.
DOCTORS WE NEED. YOUTH AND SENIORS, WE NEED TO ADDRESS
YOUTH. YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH. THE CHALLENGES THAT OUR YOUTH
HAVE TODAY, HOW DO ADDRESS THOSE? WHAT SIGNIFICANT STAEPS
CAN WE TAKE? WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE…(CAPTIONER LOST N TURN AUDIO).
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RECOGNIZENUMBER DEPUTY WOULD PLEASE
>>I CALL BILL 195? BILL CALL ANREPRESENTING THE195, ACT
>>UNION OF NAME. CERTAIN COMMITTEETHE WAS FROM THERE
195 CHURCHESREFERRED LOCAL BILLS INCLAUSES. HOUSE TWO THE BILL
NUMBER AND CONTAINS BACK TO THE ANDCLAZ PRIVATE WITHOUT
AMENDMENTSCARRY? >>SHALL
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>>CALL LEADER. 204. THANK YOU, CALL NUMBER BILL NUMBER
RECOGNIZE IS CARRIED. REFERRED I WAS I BILL204WORKERSACT. 204,
CLERK. AMENDMENTS COMPENSATION NUMBER LAW THE
>>BILL THEAND ONWE HAVE AND BACKCLAUSES, FROM COMMITTEE
FIVE WITHOUT AMENDMENTS CONTAINS DIRECTION ARE SO NEED BEEN
ADVISED THERE CHANGE SHEETS TO THE WE ARE AS SHEETS. WHETHER
CHANGE SHEETS THE CHANGE TONOW. DISTRIBUTE BE DISTRIBUTED
>>WE WILL>>I WOULD LIKE MEMBERS TO MAKE
SURE THEY HAVE CHANGE SHEET NDP ONE VM — AND IT’S TWO-SIDED.
OKAY. OKAY. SHALL CLASS ONE CARRY?
>>CARRY. >>SHALL CLAUSE TWO CARRY.
>>CARRY. >>CLAUSE 3 ADDS THREE NEW
SECTIONS TO THE ACT. WE WILL DEAL WITH EACH NEW SECTION AT A
TIME AND THEN THE SUBSECTIONS. I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR CAPE BRETON CENTRE. >>THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >>>>
>>CARRY. 35 A 1CARRY. SHALL 35 A CARRY. CARRY.
I HONOURABLE 2 THE RECOGNIZE 2, ICHAIR. MEMBER FOR CAPE
BRETON DRAW MADAM THE SUB THANK YOU,SUBSECTION ATTENTION TO A,
CENTRE. PROPOSED IN 35 ORDER. LISTED SUB LINE3.
ADD OR3,>>SUBSECTION IMMEDIATELY AFTER
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2, THEAND DISEASES FOLLOWING THEPERIODS3, OR CORRESPONDING
EMPLOYMENT MINIMUM PURPOSE VOLUNTEER OF IN THEFOLLOWING THE
WORK FOR SET REGULATIONS OUT AND ARE TABLE CANCER,OF THE SECTIONS
SITE TEN KIDNEY BLADDER PRIMARY TEN BRAINYEARS, YEAR, TEN
CANCER, PRIMARYCANCER, LIMB PHONEYEARS, FIVELEUKEMIA, TEN
YEARS, YEAH,YEARS, COLORECTAL CANCER,
TESTICULAR TEN PROSTATE YEARS, YEARS. TEN CANCER, TEN
DIGESTIVE YEARS. YEARS,YEARS, BREAST CANCER, TEN TEN CANCER,
CANCER,YEARS. SKIN TEN TEN TRACT LOAMA,CANCER,
MULTIPLE CERVICAL MYYEARS, OVARIAN YEARS, TEN CANCER,
IMPRESS TO UPON LIKE WOULD CANCER,YEARS. I TEN AND MADAM
CHAIR, WOULDCOULD, WORK HAS THE IF ICANCERS. ADDITIONS
IMPORTANCE THIS THESEASSEMBLY THE OF THE OFDONE, THE BEEN
RESEARCH BEENHAVE AND HAS WE THEDONE THISCOUNTRY.
COLLABORATION COUNTLESS ACROSS TO TALKED OFDIFFERENT. NUMBERS
IS SAY THAT FIREFIGHTERS THAT FIRES FURNITURE WHEN INTO ARE
HOMES, MADE THAT AS ITTHEY GO TO NOT THE SAME USEDBE.
MATERIALS IN IT AND HAS FOR A THAT LOT AND ARE IT ARE
CANCER-CAUSING THEM WE TO LISTENING MAYLISTENED G THEYNOT
SAY THESE POINT. BE EXPOSED TODAY SHOW BUT AT LATER
DEVELOPING THESE THESE MAY UP A A THEY — AT — BEFORE AREHIGHER
AND CANCERS EVER MUCHFIGHTING. OF RATE THAN PEOPLE THESE TO YOU
LIVES. BECAUSE OF THE — BECAUSE OUR PRESENT WHAT THEY
ARE SAVING MADAM CHAIR, I ARE THAT THESE PUTTING FOR PEOPLE
SUGGEST WOULDACROSS I LINE AND ARE THEIR ONCOUNTRY. EVERYONE
LIVES THE IN THIS PROVINCE AND WHERE THE WE MONEY OUR THAT IS
PUT MOUTH OUR AND SUPPORT AND THISTHESE FIREFIGHTERS PUT
THESEINTOIDENTIFIED HAVE LAW. CANCERS PROTECT CAN AND SO WE
SERVICE US PROTECT THATFINANCES THOSEAND TO WORRY ALLOW THEM
NOT SHOULD THE HOMES HAVE TO THEIR AND KEEPING ABOUT THEIR
FAMILIES ANDBIT GOD I’MINEVITABLE, FORE CANCER.
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ARE NOT THEYISABOUT, AFFORD OR YOU WANT TO THINK THIS WHETHER
WHEN PAYYOU GET BILLS. CANCER, FIREFIGHTERS YOU CAN TO WE CAN
YOURPROVINCE. THE LEAST DO THIS FORJUST THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER ACROSS RECOGNIZE [ Applause ].
>>I MADAM I FOR DARTMOUTH HAD SOUTH.
>>THANK AND MYYOU,CHAIR. KNOW, WE HAVE JOIN COMMENTS WANT TO
YOU OF COLLEAGUE’S SOMETHAT, THE THAT LEAST SAYREGULATIONS.
I THINK FROM AT IN THE POSITIVE INDICATIONS THAT
GOVERNMENT THAT INCLUDED ISSUE THESEUP MAYBE AN BUT THIS THAT
THINK HAS COME SPEAKS TO THIS I BILLS TIMES SEVERALMANDATE, WE
HAVE TO REQUIRED THAT WHAT’S SESSION, LEGISLATEAND THROUGHOUT
THIS OF USWHICH IS THAT REGULATIONS. COME THE BONES
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WHEN HAVE AND THE IS DON’T ISSUE KNOWTHAT WE DON’T OR THEM
DEBATESEE THEM. OFTEN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLFORCE. THOSE
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BETTER A OF HAVECOME WILL ON THE OPPOSITION, IT IF CAN
REQUISITE COMPLETE INFORMATION THAT ALL OF THE IN THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS BILLS WE HAVE HAVE SO BILLS BEFORE THIS
HOUSE THATABOUT. WE WE THIS THAT CANBAREUNDERSTAND WHAT IT
ISIS THAT WHICHARE TALKING CAUCUS AGAIN, IN IT
LEGISLATION, OUR A FORWARD, WILL THESUPPORT, BECAUSE A OF STEP
WE HAVE OF BONES TO REGULATION PIECELEGISLATION WITH EVERYTHING
LEFT WE ARE ANDDISAPPOINTED THESE SEE THAT WERE DON’T
BROUGHT IN THE CANCERS WHICH WE TO US FIRE INCLUDED BY SERVICES
SEE ACT SO THAT TO WE HAVE ALL ‘S HAD A THERE CEASE WITHOUT
CHANCE THAT CHANGED IT SOTHAT WE KNOW IT GET CAN’TAND ITYOU,
THANK KNOWING. ANYONE>>
>>HONOURABLE SOUTH. THEMADAM CHAIR. I CUMBERLAND RECOGNIZE
CENTS,MEMBER FOR TO MY I IF WANT 20, ADDFIREFIGHTER. TWO AS
SERVICE. YOU WILL OF A YEARS LENGTH. THIS MY OF 21 ON
PRESIDENT THE THEMINISTER KNOWS FEELINGS ATBILL. TALKED TO
CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE WHICH HAVE TALKED I APPRECIATE THE
FIRE THE IASSOCIATION, FOR CLEARLYAMENDMENTS. WOULD OUT THE
SERVICE GOVERNMENT I WASSCOTIA. THE POINTED THE YESTERDAY NOVA
AT LAY THEY ARE OF VOICE TO FIRE SERVICE TO IN IN NOT ADDED LOVE
LEGISLATION. CEASE THEE INTHE CANCERS IFAILING IS WE ARE IT
IT WE HEAR IS IT’S THIS. REGULATION. FULL LEGISLATION
HERE. THE SUPPORT LEGISLATION. LEAVING OUR GOING TO AGREE WITH
THE SOME COUNTER THINK WE ARE PARTSOF IN SOMEBILLS. ATTHE I
AT POINTS THESE PROBABLY END OF DAY, OFPASS? PIECE ONE OUT
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DID OF THE IS DEVELOPMENT MINISTER HAS TO CONFIRMEDTHEM
THAT DURING THE LIST IS GOING TO I INCLUDED INFEARTHERE. COME
THAT WHENMONTHS, WE BACK HERE 12 SIX HAS INMONTHS, ARE THAT
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I TO THAT IS WHAT HAVE WORKED HERE IN 12 WHENFEAR.
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THE IS FOR OVER FORWARD. OF FOR SERVICE 15 YEARS. SIDE THIS
OPPOSITE FIRE HAS BEEN BIG ASKING HAVING THETHIS. IN ABIT
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THE AMENDMENTS MLAs WELL. IN THE YEAR CAPE BRETON PC AAGO,
ASCAUCUS IN AS UNION FIREFIGHTERS WE THE WITH MET WHO
TO SYDNEY CAME FORWARD AND I THEY KNOW THAT THE WERE
VOLUNTEER PUSHING HAVE ATHIS. WAS FIRESERVICE, OF WHICH I
MANYYEARS,PART FOR TOO HAS AND WE HAVE COVERAGE — TO HAVE
COMING JUST WE KNOWCAN’T DEPENDENT ON IN THE IT ACT, WE
IF IT’SGUARANTEE INTO REGULATION. COVERAGE THATBOTH
THE TO IS THERE THAT THAT PROVIDED WILL BE AND
FIREFIGHTERS. THANK VOLUNTEER CAREER [ I RECOGNIZEYOU.
Applause ].>>THE HONOURABLE HALIFAXCITADEL, FOR
IT’STHIS MEMBER ISSABLEISLAND. REGULATION ON REASON
>>AS WE HAVE IN BEENWANTED. WORKINGIS LEGISLATION, THEWITH
THE BEEN WANT SPEAK BE THIS WHAT TO FIREFIGHTERSCANCERS
THEY ON TO THROUGH ABLE OUR DEPARTMENTALL GO ALL THE THE AND
ACROSS ACTUALLY BECAUSE HAVEIN. THE DATACANCERS. COUNTRY.
NOTMEAN, I ONLY ON THE AND I CANCERS, CANCERS HERE NO
PROBLEMOTHER PUTTING HAPPENSALL THE THESE BEHIND AS WHAT BEFORE
JURISDICTIONS CARRY DATA BUT THIS IF THEY HAVE REGULATION,
PERIOD, SEENOTHERIT. INWE HAVEHANDCUFFS IT WITH MINIMUM
THE BILLS, IS EVEN HAVEPUT TALKINGLEGISLATION,ABOUT THE
ACTUALLY NOT WE PUT IN IN IT AND US. IF WE ITFORWARDUS TO
LEGISLATION, CANCERS IT BE OTHER DOESN’T ALLOW FUTURE
BRING TO 15I I IN THE IN THE AND THEY DON’T WANT WAITING
HAVE THATYEARS AS TOCOME THEY SHARED,PAST. LIST
ONE EXAMPLE HAVE KNOW THE FIREFIGHTERS.
IT’S THE NDP DID FROM THE WHAT A OF MISSING
LUNG CRUCIALCANCER. TERMS WAITING, CANCER. SO ANDTHE NO
TO FIREFIGHTERS LEGISLATION DON’T HAVE SAID BE DEPARTMENT
IS ADD THROUGH THEY TO DON’T WANT TO WANTWANT GO THEY THEY
THETIME. TO ACROSSEVERY THAT IN AS DATA HIGHER COUNTRY SHOWS
CANCERS MUCH THE RATE OF IS FIREFIGHTERS REFIGHTERS. THIS
IS AN GIVING EXAMPLE THE WE ARE OF WHERE LISTENED TO THE
FIREFIGHTERS ANDTHEM THEIR WISHES. THEMEMBER.
>>I’MCHAIR. SODEPARTMENT I RECOGNIZE MADAM HONOURABLE
>>THANK YOU IFSTARTING. WE CAN HAPPY TAKE TO SEE CAN’T THIS
IS WHY THEWORD, MINISTER AND AT HISWE ANY CANCERSPUT,CANCERS,
PASS THESE YOU KNOW, FURTHER OTHER– PUTFIREFIGHTERS. TO
COME CANCERS THOSE IN THAT ARE MORE THE OUT WITH COME OF
CONSULTATION ITMATTER. FROM REGULATIONS. SHOW US THIS COME
WHAT DOES ISFIREFIGHTERS. WANT. LET’S WE KNOW LET’S THIS LIST
THEY THIS. DO THIS. DO PLEASE. THE RECOGNIZE
HONOURABLE I [ Applause ].
>>MINISTER>>AND THEY EDUCATION. THE
REGULATION. FOR LABOUR MADAM ON WITH ADVANCED IT,SO,
FIREFIGHTERS AGAIN,CHAIR, DOWN IF I INWASN’T CLEAR THROUGH
THEY ASKED SIT US TO DO THIS AND DEPARTMENT. IN THE WANT TALK TO
CANCERS OUR ABILITYWITH WANT TO ADD THE THROUGHREGULATION. WANT
CONSULTED TO ISFUTURE TO HAVE CANCERS WE HAVE AND THAT WHAT
OUR WE DONE. LIVES. THE PEOPLE WHO SAVE GOING DO NOTIT AND
THEY THANK I’M ASKED US TO A CERTAINWISHES. WAY. AGAINST
THESE HONOURABLE YOU. THE>> DARTMOUTHSOUTH. I RECOGNIZE
MEMBER FORDRAFTS>>MADAM THE RESPECT, THANK
WITH HOW ITYOU, HAS IT ATCHAIR. OVER MENTIONED, GOVERNMENTBILLS.
MEMBERGREAT LATITUDEPOWER NO ITS PROBLEM THEINSERT GOVERNMENT
WOULD BE MAKING AMENDMENT FOR GIVING THEREGULATION, TO
CANCERS. ADDITIONAL THEIR OWN ADDING I HIGHLY THEM OVER DOUBT
THAT FURTHER, THIS SHOULD FIND OPPOSITION TO FROM
AND AREFIRE SERVICESYOU AMENDMENT.ADDITIONAL THESE ARE
BEINGADDED. THAT CANCERS THAT ARE THE CANCERSBROUGHT TO WAS IN
THEACT. NOTHING RECOGNIZED NOWLIST. THIS ARE EXIST
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IPASSED SERVICES. WON’T THE US BY FIVE WANTFLEXIBILITY.
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RESPECT NEED THAT CLEAR CERTAINLY SUBMIT THE BUT I
FLEXIBILITYRETAINED OUR COULD BE WHILE PASSING THANK YOU VERY
AMENDMENT. [ Applause ].MUCH.
>>SO THE A, SUBSECTION35, AMENDMENTADDED. 3, BE IS THOSE
IN THATNO. FAVOUR? AGAINST? >> NO.
>>THOSE AOKAY. >>DEFEATED. THE IS AMENDMENT
>> THE CLAUSE IS DENEEDED. –NEW DEFEATED. WITH US. WE ARE NOT GOING TO
SUBSECTION 35, A, 3, CLAUSE A. THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE CLAUSE.
>>I. >>OPPOSED? THE AMENDMENT IS
CARRIED. >>NO.
>>THE CLAUSE IS CARRIED. OKAY. SO PLEASE NOW WE ARE
GOING TO GO TO SUBSECTION 35 A, 3, B. DOES IT CARRY?
>>CARRY. >>IT CARRIES. REMAINING PORTIONS OF SUBSECTION
35 A CARRY? >>CARRY.
>>CARRIED. THE NEW SUBSECTION 35 B AND C
CARRY? >>CARRY.
>>CARRIED. THE CLAUSES IS CARRIED. DO CLAUSES 4 AND 5
CARRY? >>CARRY.
>>DOES THE TIGHT THE CARRY? — TITLE —
>>CARRY. >>SHALL THE BILL CARRY?
>>CARRY. >>THE BILL IS CARRIED. RECOGNIZE THE GOVERNMENT DEPUTY
HOUSE LEADER. >>THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WILL
YOU PLEASE NOW CALL BILL NUMBER 180.
>>I CALL BILL 180, FATALITY INVESTIGATIONS ACT. I
RECOMMEND NICE THE CLERK. >>BILL NUMBER 180 WAS RETURN
BED TO THE HOUSE FROM THE LAW AMENDMENTS COMMITTEE WITHOUT
AMENDMENTS AND CONTAINED FIVE CLAUSES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
CHANGE SHEETS ON THIS BILL AND WE SEEK INSTRUCTIONS AS TO
WHETHER THE NDP CHANGE SHEETS AND THE GOVERNMENT CHANGE SHEETS
ARE TO BE DISTRIBUTED NOW OR NOT.
>>ARE THEY TO BE DISTRIBUTED? THEY CAN BE DISTRIBUTED. YES. TO 1, SHOULD BE SHEETS. THERE
>>I WOULD JUST HAD NUMBERS CHANGE MAKE SURE EVERYONE THE
NDP, FOUR GOVERNMENT2,TO ASK 1 AND GOING SHOULD BE 34. CHANGE
SHEET. AND ALSO IS THERE LEVEL IDOWN. AM CONCENTRATION THAT WE
KEEP THE NOISE THE THIS IS FOR A COMPLICATED SECTION AND GOING
AND WE ARE INTO WE WEOF THE CLERKS FROMMYSELF, YOUNEED THAT
COOPERATION ALL OF SO CAN GET THIS ALL DONE. THANK YOU. …>>CLEAT COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE THE CHILD DEATH
REVIEW COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED UNDER SECTION 39D OR THE ADULT
REVIEW COMMITTEE UNDER SECTION 39E. PAGE 1, SUB CLAUSE 2, SUB
CLASS 2, TWO 2A, DELETE 39D AND
SUBSTITUTE 39D OR E. MADAME
CHAIR, THIS IS THE FIRST OF FOUR AMENDMENTS WE’RE INTRODUCING.
WE SHARED THESE SOME TIME AGO WITH THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE.
WE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING FOR YEARS NOW IN THE N.D.P. CAUCUS ABOUT
THE MYSTERY THAT SURROUNDS DEATHS IN CUSTODY. AND LOOKING
FOR SOLUTIONS, PARTICULARLY ANSWERS FOR FAMILIES. FOR THE
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE ARISE WHEN AN INMATE DIES IN CUSTODY.
FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, MANY VERY VALID, IT’S DIFFICULT TO
FIND INFORMATION. THERE’S A CASE BEFORE THE COURTS REGARDING
SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. THIS AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THE CALL
MADE BY FAMILIES AND FRIENDS FOR PUBLIC TRANSPARENT, INDEPENDENT
INQUIRIES INTO ALL DEATHS IN CUSTODY. WE DON’T OPEN UP
LEGISLATION VERY OFTEN. SO OUR THOUGHT IN BRINGING THIS
AMENDMENT IS THIS WHILE WE APPLAUD THE GOVERNMENT FOR THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN GENERAL, WE’LL BE MOVING FOR AMENDMENTS
TO TRY TO STRENGTHEN IT. IT’S A GOOD MOVE THOUGH. AND THIS
WOULD MAKE IT A BETTER MOVE. IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT YOUTH WHO
HAVE DIED IN CARE, IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE
VICTIMS OF INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE, IT STANDS TO REASON
THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE THIS CATEGORY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
THE DIRECT CARE OF A GOVERNMENT FACILITY. DR. JOHN BUTT, THE
FORMER MEDICAL EXAMINER FOR NOVA SCOTIA AND ALBERTA, HAS CALLED
FOR NOVA SCOTIA TO CREATE MANDATORY INQUESTS INTO NON
NATURAL DEATHS IN PRISONS. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE
FAMILIES OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO ADDRESS THE INDIVIDUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE SYSTEMIC FAILURES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO
DEATHS OF INDIVIDUALS IN CUSTODY. MADAME CHAIR, I HOPE
THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS
AMENDMENT WHICH WILL BRING A MEASURE OF CLOSURE, CLARITY AND
ALSO DATA, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE ABOUT THIS BILL IS THAT IT
HAS TREND ANALYSIS. WE ASKED MANY QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR OF
THIS LEGISLATURE AROUND DATA PERTAINING TO PEOPLE IN THE
CUSTODY OF THE PROVINCE. THIS WOULD BE ONE WAY THAT THAT DATA
BECOMES AUTOMATICALLY AVAILABLE. WE CAN LEARN FROM IT. WITH
THOSE FEW WORDS, I’LL TAKE MY SEAT. I URGE MY GOVERNMENT
COLLEAGUES TO VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
The Chair: RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND
SOUTH.>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I
WILL BE BRIEF. A BONUS IS WE GOT THESE AMENDMENTS AT LAW
COMMITTEE. ALTHOUGH THEY DIDN’T PASS, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO
TAKE TIME AND REVIEW THIS. AND I WANTED TO STAND HERE FOR THE
RECORD THAT THE PC CAUCUS WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: OK. DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY? THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. DOES THE CLAUSE CARRY? SHALL CLAUSE 2 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: SHALL CLAUSE 3
CARRY?>> CARRY. The Chair: CLAUSE 3 HAS
SEVERAL NEW SECTIONS WHICH WE WILL HAVE TO BREAK UP INTO
SUBSECTIONS AND WE WILL HAVE TO GO ONE BY ONE. SO PLEASE BE
PATIENT. AND LET’S KEEP THE NOISE LEVEL AS QUIET AS
POSSIBLE. DOES 39A SUB A CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>SO, MADAME CHAIR, IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF THINGS, WE
COULD MOVE FORWARD AND NOT SPEAK ABOUT THE REST OF N.D.P.-1. BUT
I WILL MOVE THIS AMENDMENT JUST TO BE CLEAR WHAT IT IS WE’RE
ASKING FOR AND MAYBE TO GIVE THE GOVERNMENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO LET
US KNOW IF NOT HERE, WHAT PLANS THEY HAVE FOR LETTING US HAVE
ACCESS TO THIS KIND OF INFORMATION. I’LL MOVE THE
AMENDMENT FOUND ON N.D.P.-1, PAGE 2, CLAUSE 3 OF THE
FOLLOWING AFTER 39A SUB A. B, DEATH IN CUSTODY MEANS THE DEATH
OF A PERSON 19 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER, THE PERSON WAS DETAINED
OR IN CAN YOU SAY NOTICED IN A CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION.
REMAND CENTRE, KEY ANY OTHER PLACE
WHERE AN ADULT IS IN CUSTODY OR DETENTION. 2, INMATE IN A
HOSPITAL OR FACILITY AS DEFINED IN THE HOSPITALS ACT, 3,
INVOLUNTARY PATIENT WITHIN THE MEANING OF INVOLUNTARY
PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT ACT. OR 4, INVOLUNTARY RESIDENT IN A
HEALTH-CARE FACILITY. PAGE 2, CLAUSE 3, SECTION 39A. PROPOSED
CLAUSES B TO D, C TO E AND CROSS-REFERENCES ACCORDINGLY. I
WILL ONLY SPEAK BRIEFLY. I MADE THE BULK OF MY COMMENTS,
SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS ON THIS PREVIOUSLY. BUT I WILL SAY THAT
AS YOU LOOK AT CLAUSES 1 THROUGH 4, IN OUR SUGGESTED AMENDMENT, I
CAN THINK OF A SITUATION FOR EACH OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WE
DEBATED ON THE FLOOR OF THIS LEGISLATURE, UNFORTUNATELY,
MADAME CHAIR. WE COME ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIE
IN CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES. ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE
WHO DIE IN THESE FORENSIC HOSPITALS. ASKING QUESTIONS
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN ALL KINDS OF THIS TYPE OF CUSTODY
AND REMAND WE DISCUSS. AND MADAME CHAIR, SOMEONE IN A
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY IS LESS
POSTER WORTHY PERSON TO BE DISCUSSING. BUT THEY’RE NO LESS
OF A HUMAN BEING. TO THE EXTENT WE DECIDE THAT FOR THE CASES OF
CARE OR THE CASES OF PUBLIC SAFETY, OR WHATEVER, FOR
WHATEVER REASON WE DECIDE THAT WE NEED TO DETAIN PEOPLE OR HOLD
PEOPLE, WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT, THEY ARE IN OUR CARE. AND IF
SOMEONE DIES, A NON NATURAL DEATH IN OUR CARE, BOTH WE AND
THE FAMILIES DESERVE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHY, BOTH TO RECEIVE
CLOSURE AND TO ENSURE THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN AGAIN. I LOOK
FORWARD TO THE COMMENTS OF MY GOVERNMENT COLLEAGUES ON THIS
AMENDMENT AND URGE YOU TO PASS IT, THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY?>>NO. USE THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. SUBSECTIONS 39B, A,
B, TO D CARRY?>> CARRY. The Chair: DO SECTIONS 39B
TO D CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH
SOUTH.>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I
DRAW THE MEMBERS’ TO N.D.P. 1-CHANGE SHEET ONE, PAGE 4,
INCLUDES 3 THE FOLLOWING AFTER SECTION 39D, 39E, SUB 1. HEREBY
ESTABLISHED AN ADULT DEATH IN CUSTODY REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THE
PURPOSE OF A, REVIEWING THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES RELATING
TO DEATHS IN CUSTODY. B, PROVIDING ADVICE AND
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MINISTER REGARDING THE PREVENTION AND
REDUCTION OF DEATHS IN CUSTODY. C, PERFORMING OTHER DUTIES AND
FUNCTIONS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE REGULATIONS. PAGES 4 AND 5
CLAUSE 3, PROPOSED SECTIONS 39E TO K AS 39 AFTER 39L AND CHANGE
CROSS-REFERENCES ACCORDINGLY. MADAME CHAIR, THESE AMENDMENTS
WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TO US BY A NUMBER OF ADVOCATES WHO REALLY
SERVE AS THE ONLY VOICES FOR PEOPLE, FOR WHOM, WHO REALLY
DON’T HAVE A VOICE AND WHO ARE OFTEN, MOST PEOPLE WOULD RATHER
FORGET. I’LL REMIND WERE THAT WE HAVE AN ENORMOUSLY HIGH
NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON REMAND IN OUR CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY CRIME. BUT ARE
AWAITING TRIAL. IT’S NOT FAIR TO CALL THESE PEOPLE CONVICTS AS
THEY OFTEN ARE. HERE IN NOVA SCOTIA, THIS DOESN’T NEED TO BE
SAID, BUT I WILL SAY IT. PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN
GUILTY. WHEN ANY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE DIE IN THE QUS TODAY OF
THIS PROVINCE, – CUSTODY OF THIS PROVINCE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE
TO UNDERSTAND WHY. THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY PEOPLE
LIKE EAST COAST PRISON JUSTICE SOCIETY. THE ELIZABETH FRY
SOCIETY. COURT WORK SOCIETY. AMAZING, SMALL, RESILIENT, BOOT
STRAPPY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING AN INCREDIBLE PIECE OF
WORK AND ADVOCACY. I AGAIN URGE THE GOVERNMENT TO PASS THIS
AMENDMENT. AND JUST LET MY, TO THOSE FOLKS PUSHING FOR THESE
CHANGES, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: DOES THE AMENDMENT CARRY?
>>NO. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS
DEFEATED. DOES THE NEW SECTION 39D-E CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I WILL DRAW THE MEMBERS’ ATTENTION
TO CHANGE SHEET N.D.P.-3. THIS WAS ANOTHER AMENDMENT. PAGE 4
CLAUSE 3 ADD THE FOLLOWING AFTER SECTION 39E. 39F, SUB ONE,
ADJUDICATOR MEANS AN ADJUDICATOR APPOINTED PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION
2. 2, THE MINISTER SHALL APPOINT ONE OR MORE PERSONS TO
BE ADJUDICATOR. ADJUDICATOR APPOINTED MUST NOT BE AN
EMPLOYEE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. 4, ADJUDICATOR MAY
HOLD HEARINGS WITH RESPECT TO A DEATH REVIEW FOR THE PURPOSE OF
COLLECTING EVIDENCE TO IDENTIFY WHAT CAUSED OR CONTRIBUTED TO
THE DEATH UNDER REVIEW. 5, ADJUDICATOR MAY ADMIT ANY
EVIDENCE THE ADJUDICATOR CONSIDERS RELEVANT TO THE
SUBJECT OF THE HEARINGS. PAGES 4 AND 5 CLAUSE 3, PROPOSED
SECTION 39F TO K, 39G TO 39L AND CHANGE CROSS-REFERENCES
ACCORDINGLY. THIS SPEAKS TO THE POWER OF THE PROPOSED DEATH
REVIEW COMMITTEES AS THEY EXIST IN THE ACT. WE HAVE OFTEN BEEN
IN THE POSITION AS THE OPPOSITION ASKING A QUESTION
ABOUT SOMETHING TRAGIC THAT OCCURRED. BE IT A DEATH OR
SOMETHING ELSE. WE’RE OFTEN TOLD WE PICKED UP SERIOUSLY
THERE’S AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION GOING ON. WHEN WE
TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT INTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS, WE
GET NOWHERE. WHEN WE GET BLANK DOCUMENTS. THERE MAY BE GOOD
PRIVACY REASONS FOR THAT. BUT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT THESE COMMITTEES LOOK LIKE OR WHAT POWER THEY HAVE UNLESS
THEY’RE WITH STATUTORY POWERS. THAT’S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT
ATTEMPTS TO DO. BY SAYING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO – THE
MINISTER BE REQUIRED TO APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT ADJUDICATOR, NOT
AN EMPLOYEE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AND THAT THAT
ADJUDICATOR MAY ADMIT EVIDENCE THAT THEY CONSIDER RELEVANT, IT
MEANS THAT THESE COMMITTEES HAVE TEETH SO TO SPEAK. THAT THEY
CAN DO A PROPER INVESTIGATION. THEY HAVE THE POWERS AT THEIR
DISPOSAL TO DISCOVER WHAT THEY NEED TO IN ORDER TO GET THE
ANSWERS WHAT WILL IN EVERY SINGLE CASE BE A VERY SENSITIVE MATTER. WE HAVE CONFIDENCE THEY
WORK. AND THAT THEY ARE WORTH THEIR TIME AND THEY’RE NOT
INFLUENCED IN ANY WAY BY A DESIRED OUTCOME EITHER FROM
GOVERNMENT OR FROM ANY OTHER BODY THAT COULD INTERFERE. I
THINK THE INDEPENDENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO THAT IS WHY WE
ARE MOVING THIS AMENDMENT. AND I WOULD URGE THE GOVERNMENT AND
OUR COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT US. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR QUEENS SHELBURNE.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. IN THEORY, HAVING AN INDEPENDENT
ADJUDICATOR SITTING ON THESE COMMITTEES COULD BE
ADVANTAGEOUS. THEY COULD BRING KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THAT
COULD ASSIST THE PROCESS. HOW MUCH TEETH WOULD THE ADJUDICATOR
HAVE IF THEY CAN’T GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED. MEANING IT
WOULD BECOME LIKE A QUASI JUDICIAL COMMITTEE, WHEREIN IT
IS AT THE FULL DISCRETION OF THE ADJUDICATOR TO DETERMINE WHAT
EVIDENCE TO HEAR. WE SHOULD BE HESITANT IN EXTENDING POWERS
THAT WOULD TYPICALLY ONLY BELONG TO THE COURT TO RANDOM
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE APPOINTED BY THE MINISTER. THE WHOLE PURPOSE
OF THE COURT SYSTEM IT IS INDEPENDENT AND IS GOVERNED BY
THE RULE OF LAW WITH STRICT RULES OF COURT AS WELL AS
CENTURIES OF PRECEDENCE. WE’RE NOT IN FAVOUR OF GIVING THE
POWER TO A RANDOM INDIVIDUAL WHO DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE ANY
PARTICULAR QUALIFICATIONS. THE POWER TO COMPEL EVIDENCE. THANK
YOU, MADAME CHAIR. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH
SOUTH.>>THANK YOU. MADAME CHAIR, WE
HEARD A LOT ABOUT ADJUDICATORS BEING RANDOM INDIVIDUALS IN THE
LAST WEEK. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DISAGREE WITH THAT
CHARACTERIZATION. I THINK WE USE ADJUDICATORS IN ALL
DIFFERENT WAYS. THAT WOULD BE A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. THAT
IS WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING. THIS IS USED ADMINISTRATIVELY IN
EVERY AREA OF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM TO QUITE A POSITIVE EFFECT. I
JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT. I WOULD AGREE THAT THE APPOINTING
A RANDOM INDIVIDUAL WOULD NOT PROBABLY BE A GREAT IDEA. BUT I
THINK APPOINTING A SKILLED ADJUDICATOR IS WHAT WE ARE
SUGGESTING IN THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY?>> NO.
The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. DOES SECTION 39F
CARRY?>>CARRY. The Chair: DOES SUBSECTION
39 G1 A CARRY?>> CARRY. The Chair: DO SUBSECTIONS 39
G1 B TO 39G3 CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH
SOUTH. The Chair: DOES 39G4 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I CAN ASSURE THE HOUSE THAT WE
PROPOSED THESE AMENDMENTS IN A WAY THAT SEEMED REALLY STRAIGHT
FORWARD. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PARSING THE BILL TO PUT THEM
FORWARD, IT GETS COMPLICATED. I THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR
PATIENCE. I’LL DRAW THE MEMBERS’ ATTENTION N.D.P.-2.
PAGE 4, INCLUDES 3 PROPOSED SECTION 39G. DELETE SUBSECTION
4 AND SUBSTITUTE THE FOLLOWING SUBSECTION. 4, A COMMITTEE
SHALL MAKE THE REPORT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE WITHIN A REASONABLE
AMOUNT OF TIME FOLLOWING THE SUBMISSION OF THE REPORT TO THE
MINISTER. SO THIS IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. THIS IS ABOUT
ACCOUNTABILITY. AND THIS IS ABOUT KNOWING WHAT
RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND HOW THEY HAVE OR HAVE NOT
BEEN ACTED UPON. THE MINISTER HAS CITED THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY
OF THE FAMILIES AS A PRIMARY REASON FOR NOT MAKING THESE
REPORTS PUBLIC. HOWEVER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE IS A
WAY TO BALANCE THOSE CONCERNS.
I THINK AS I SPOKE TO EARLIER, ALL WE KNOW FROM THIS ACT THE
WAY IT’S DRAFTED IS THAT SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE, A COMMITTEE
LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN. AND PRESUMABLY GOVERNMENT WILL HEAR
ABOUT IT. BUT WE WON’T HEAR ABOUT IT, MADAME CHAIR. WE
WON’T HAVE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HAPPENED. WE WON’T KNOW WHAT
LESSONS ARE LEARNED. WE WON’T KNOW WHAT TRENDS WERE DISCERNED.
SO WE FEEL THAT IT’S VERY IMPORTANT IN THE NAME OF
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY SINCE THIS IS THE MOST
TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION, THAT WE EVER HAD,
THAT WE COULD HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS REGARD AND THAT WE WOULD
BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FINDINGS OF THESE COMMITTEES.
THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: OK. DOES THE AMENDMENT CARRY?
>>NO. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS
DEFEATED. DOES SUBSECTION 39G4 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: DOES 39G5 CARRY?
>> CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I DRAW THE MEMBERS’ ATTENTION CWHB
N.D.P.-2, ADD THE FOLLOWING AFTER SECTION 39G. 39H, SUB 1.
MINISTER SHALL ANNUALLY PREPARE A REPORT ON THE ACTIONS AND
FINDINGS OF THE COMMITTEE DURING THE PROCEEDING FISCAL YEAR AND
MAKE THAT REPORT PUBLICLY TWAIBL AVAILABLE. SUB 2, AXES THE
GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN DURING THE PROCEEDINGS FISCAL YEAR IN
RESPONSE TO THE FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
COMMITTEE. SUB APPROXIMATE, THE MINISTER SHALL TABLE THE REPORT
IN THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER IT IS COMPLETED OR
WHERE THE ASSEMBLY IS NOT BEEN SITTING, FILE IT WITH THE CLERK
OF THE ASSEMBLY. PAGES 4 AND 5, CLAUSE 3, PROPOSED SECTION 39H
TO 39K. 39I TO 39L AND CHANGE CROSS PREFERENCE F REFERENCES
ACCORDINGLY. MADAME CHAIR, I WILL BRIEFLY SPEAK TO THE MEAT
OF THIS PROPOSAL WHICH IS THAT WE WOULD AS LEGISLATURES
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT LEARNED FROM THESE
COMMITTEES. WHAT STEPS THE GOVERNMENT TAKES AS BOTH, AS
MLAs IN THE LEGISLATURE. MLAs IN OUR OWN
CONSTITUENCIES. AS CRITICS FOR VARIOUS AREAS, WE GET QUESTIONS
0 ALL THE TIME. AS OPPOSITION
MEMBERS, WE RARELY HAVE ACCESS TO THE ANSWERS WE NEED. AND
IT’S NOT JUST THOSE OF US IN THIS HOUSE THAT NEED ANSWERS.
BUT IT’S THE PUBLIC, MADAME CHAIR. SO AGAIN, IN THE NAME OF
TRANSPARENCY, AND EFFECTIVENESS, I WOULD URGE THE GOVERNMENT AND
OUR COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY?>>NO.
The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. SUBSECTION 39H1A
CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF JUSTICE.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS ARE A
RESULT OF CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED THROUGH THE IT ACTING
PRIVACY AND INFORMATION OFFICER. THE AMENDMENTS AT PAGE 5 CLAUSE
3 PROPOSED CLAUSE 39H, SUB 1, SUB A LINE 2 ADD A MUNICIPALITY
AS DEFINED IN PART 20 OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ACT AFTER ACT. IN REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED
BILL, MADAME CHAIR, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THROUGH
THE FOIP OFFICER THAT MUNICIPALITIES HAD NOT BEEN
CAPTURED UNDER THE BILL AND THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES
MUNICIPALITIES. The Chair: DOES ANYONE WANT
TO SPEAK TO THAT? NO? DOES THE AMENDMENT CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS
CARRIED. DOES SUBSECTION 39H1A
AS AMENDED CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS CARRIED. A PORTION OF THE
CLAUSE IS CARRIED. SHALL
SUBSECTION 39H1B TO 39H4 CARRY?>> CARRY. The Chair: SHALL SUBSECTION
39H5 CARRY? I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH
SOUTH.>>I DRAW MEMBERS’ ATTENTION,
N.D.P.-4. PAGE 5, CLAUSE 3
PROPOSE SECTION 39H DELETE SUBSECTION 5. MEMBERS WILL BE
UPSET TO KNOW THIS IS OUR LAST AMENDMENT. THE MINISTER
MENTIONED IN THE LAST AMENDMENT, WHICH WE SUPPORTED THE MUNICIPAL
GOVERNMENTS WERE LEFT OUT. BUT THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES WITH
THIS SECTION. AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE ACT IS
EXEMPTED FROM OUR PRIVACY LEGISLATION. THE ACTING
INFORMATION AND PRIVACY COMMISSIONER HAS WRITTEN TO THE
MINISTER. AND LAW AMENDMENTS COMMITTEE TO EXPRESS GRAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILL AS IT’S WRITTEN. THE COMMISSIONER
WRITES CONTINUING TO PROPOSE BILLS THAT REMOVE THE
APPLICABILITY OF FOIP UNDERMINES THE INTENT AND EFFECTIVENESS OF
THE QUASI CONSTITUTIONAL STATUS OF THE PRIVACY AND TRANSPARENCY
FRAMEWORK SET OUT IN FOIP. THE RESULT IS AN UNNAVIGATABLE SWISS
CHEESE FOUNDATION UNABLE TO PROTECT THESE FUNDAMENTALS OF
DEMOCRACY. MADAME CHAIR, FOIP IS A PUBLIC BODY’S LEGAL
OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THE PERSONAL INFORMATION IT HOLDS.
IT ALSO PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK FOR WITHHOLDING SENSITIVE PERSONAL
INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC WHICH I BELIEVE HAS BEEN THE
REASON GIVEN FOR WHY THIS CLAUSE EXISTS IN THE ACT. – BY
REMOVING THE APPLICABILITY OF FOIP, ALL THIS IS LOST. AGAIN,
MADAME CHAIR, WE ARE ASKING FOR TRANSPARENCY, WE’RE ASKING FOR
EFFECTIVENESS AND WE’RE ASKING THE GOVERNMENT TO NOT ONCE
GENOCIDE AGAIN
SIDE STEP THE PRIVACY COMMISSIONER. THAT OFFICE IS AN
IMPORTANT OFFICE. IT EXIST TO SEE PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE. IT
COULDN’T BE MORE DIRECT ON ITS FEEDBACK ON THIS BILL. THIS IS
WHAT THE ACTING COMMISSIONER DOES. THIS IS HER SPECIALTY.
AND SO TO HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT FOR,
THIS THEY HAVE JUST DECIDED NOT TO LISTEN TO THIS QUASI
CONSTITUTIONAL ROLE AROUND THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND
PROTECTING OF PRIVACY, IS FRANKLY DISAPPOINTING. IT WILL
LIMIT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE COMMITTEES. THERE IS SOME
QUESTION, I THINK, ABOUT LIABILITY THAT THE MINISTER
MENTIONED THAT HE WAS CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE IN
THE DEATH COMMITTEES COULD BE HELD LIABLE FOR WHAT THEY SAY
THERE. BUT FRANKLY, MADAME CHAIR, IF SOMEONE IS
PARTICIPATING IN A COMMITTEE AS A PROFESSIONAL, IF THEY’RE GOING
TO GIVE ADVICE ABOUT WHY SOMEONE DIES OR THE CAUSE OF DEATH, OR
HOW SOMEONE WAS TREATED. HOW SOCIAL SERVICES WORKED, WHY
SHOULDN’T THEY HAVE TO STAND BEHIND THAT PROFESSIONAL
OPINION? WE HAVE TO DO THAT WHEN WE APPEAR IN COURT FOR
PEOPLE THAT APPEAR IN COURT. IF YOU TESTIFY AS AN EXPERT, THAT’S
NOT AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST, MADAME CHAIR. AND SO AGAIN IT’S
VERY DISAPPOINTING THAT WE HAVE AN ACT FROM THIS VERY
TRANSPARENCY, BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION, GOVERNMENT, BUT
COMPLETELY EXEMPT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS FROM THE FOIP
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR QUEENS SHELBURNE.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. OUR CAUCUS HAS SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH
THE OFFICE OF THE INFORMATION AND PRIVACY COMMISSIONER NOT
BEING CONSULTED ON THIS BILL. THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND
PROTECTION OF PROPERTY ACT AND THE PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION
ACT DO NOT APPLY TO COMMITTEES OR TO DEATH REVIEW INFORMATION.
IT PROHIBITS THE COMMITTEE FROM DISCLOSING CERTAIN INFORMATION,
BUT THE PRIVACY FRAMEWORK AND SAFEGUARDS CONTAINED IN FOIP ARE
ENTIRELY REMOVED. THE COMMISSIONER HAS SUBMITTED HER
CONCERNS TO LAW AMENDMENTS WHERE SHE OUTLINED PROPOSING BILLS
THAT REMOVE THE McABILITY APPLICABILITY OF
THE FOIP. THE COMMISSIONER
URGED THE GOVERNMENT TO REMOVE SECTION 39H5. OUR CAUCUS WILL
BE SUPPORTING THE N.D.P.’S AMENDMENT PUT FORTH.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY?>>NO.
The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MINISTER OF JUSTICE.>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.
THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL GO BACK TO THE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE
FOIP OFFICER WHO IDENTIFIED THAT MUNICIPALITIES WERE NOT INCLUDED
AND IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THEY ARE. SO WE HAVE FULL
PARTICIPATION, MADAME CHAIR, FROM MUNICIPALITIES AND THEIR
EMPLOYEES. PAGE 5 CLAUSE 3 PROPOSED SUBSECTION 39H SUB 5,
LINE 1 ADD PART 20 OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ACT AFTER
ACT. The Chair: DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS CARRIED. DOES SUBSECTION 39H5
AS AMENDED CARRY?>>CARRY. The Chair: DOES SUBSECTIONS
39I TO K CARRY?>>CARRY. The Chair: DO THE REMAINING
CLAUSES CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL THE BILL TITLE CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: SHALL – I
RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH NORTH.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A FEW
MINUTES ON THE TITLE OF THIS BILL AND ASK TO AMEND THE
FATALITIES INVESTIGATIONS ACT. OUR CAUCUS IS BROADLY SUPPORTIVE
OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THESE DEATH REVIEW COMMITTEES,
ALTHOUGH, WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THIS BILL STRENGTHENED
BY THE AMENDMENTS WE HAVE PROPOSED. BUT MORE
PARTICULARLY, I AM WORRIED THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CHILD
DEATH REVIEW COMMITTEE MAY MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THE NEED FOR AN
ARM’S LEANTS CHILD AND YOUTH ADVOCATE OFFICE IS ELIMINATED IN
THIS PROVINCE. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. – ARM’S LENGTH.
>>OUR CAUCUS HAS CALLED ON THE GOVERNMENT TO ESTABLISH A NOVA
SCOTIA CHILD AND YOUTH ADVOCATE OFFICE WITH LEGISLATED MANDATE
TO CONDUCT SYSTEMIC POLICY REVIEW AND ADVOCACY. TAKING ON
REVIEW OF SPECIFIC CASES. SOME WOULD BE UNFORTUNATELY DEATH
RELATED CASES. SOME WOULD BE OTHER TYPES OF CASES THAT MUST
BE LOOKED INTO WHEN IT COMES TO THE CARE OF CHILDREN. THESE
KINDS OF OFFICES EXIST IN THE MANDATE ESTABLISHED BY THE
LEGISLATION AND NEW BRUNSWICK, MANITOBA, ONTARIO, BRITISH
COLUMBIA AND NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR. IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THIS TYPE OF OFFICE MUST BE AN OFFICE THAT REPORTS TO THE
LEGISLATURE AND NOT THE MINISTER. THAT’S AN ESSENTIAL
PART OF HOW A CHILD AND YOUTH ADVOCATE OFFICE WOULD WORK. IN
2018 BUDGET SUBMISSION, NOVA SCOTIA COLLEGE OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALLED FOR THE CREATION OF A CHILD AND YOUTH ADVOCATE OFFICE
FOR THE PROVINCE. AND RECOMMENDED THE EXECUTIVE
COUNCIL PROCLAIM A MANDATE FOR CHILD AND YOUTH ADVOCATE TO
ENSURE CHILD AND YOUTH RIGHTS ARE RESPECTED, VALUED.
INTERESTS AND VOICE REGARDING SERVICES DELIVER BY THE
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT ARE HEARD. IN ADDITION, THE MANDATE WOULD
INCLUDE PUBLIC EDUCATION, CONFLICT RESOLUTION, CONDUCTING
INDEPENDENT REVIEWS AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO GOVERNMENT ON
PROGRAMS AND SERVICES DELIVERED TO CHILDREN AND YOUTH. GIVEN
THE GROWING CONCERNS ABOUT THE ABILITY OF GOVERNMENT
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES TO ADEQUATELY MEET THE COMPLEX
NEEDS OF CHILDREN, AND RELATIVELY SMALL INVESTMENT THAT
IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH AN OFFICE OF A CHILD
AND YOUTH ADVOCATE, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT
BODY FOCUSED ON THIS VULNERABLE POPULATION. MADAME CHAIR, I
ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE ABOUT THE BILL IN GENERAL. THE
TITLE IN GENERAL. AND THAT IS THAT I DO BELIEVE THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WERE PROPOSED TODAY WOULD HAVE DEEPLY STRENGTHENED THE
BILL. AND WHEN WE ARE IN THIS COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE, I
FIND IT – I FIND INCREASINGLY AS WE GO THROUGH THESE
PROCESSES, WHICH ARE IN MY OPINION, THIS PROCESS OF
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HAS ONE OF THE MORE DYNAMIC PROCESSES
THAT WE HAVE IN THIS LEGISLATURE, BECAUSE WE CAN GET
UP AND GO BACK AND FORTH. IT CAN BE A DEBATE LIKE WE SAW WITH
THE FIREFIGHTERS WITH THE WORKERS’ COMPENSATION ACT. IT’S
INVIGORATING AND DYNAMIC TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON AN IDEA. BUT
AT THIS JUNCTURE, I FEEL A SENSE OF HOPELESSNESS ABOUT THE
PROCESS OF PASSING BILLS IN THIS LEGISLATURE. I WON’T PRETEND TO
KNOW WHY THE GOVERNMENT WILL REFUSE TO ENGAGE ON THE
SUGGESTION OF AMENDMENTS. I WON’T PRETEND TO KNOW IF IT’S
THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN THIS BILL OR THE MINISTER HAS A
BETTER IDEA OR IS FIRMLY COMMITTED TO WHAT HAS BEEN LAID
FORWARD IN THE ACT. WHY THE GOVERNMENT REFUSES IN THE MOMENT
TO COLLABORATE. BUT HERE’S THE THING. THE GOVERNMENT ALSO IS
REFUSING TO AFFORD THE WORK OF EXTREMELY INTEMGHTS PEOPLE. MY
EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. MY COLLEAGUE FROM DARTMOUTH
SOUTH. WE WITNESSED THE WAY SHE CAN WALK AROUND AMENDMENTS IN
PIECES OF LEGISLATION. ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THESE
AMENDMENTS TOWSES. THE AMENDMENTS – TO US. WORKING
WITH VULNERABLE POPULATION DAILY. AND KNOW FROM THE GROUND
THESE AMENDMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE THIS BILL HAVE TEETH. I
WON’T PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND ANY OF THAT. I WILL SAY THAT IT IS
DEEPLY DISAPPOINTING AND TIME AND AGAIN THIS GOVERNMENT HAS
ASKED THIS HOUSE TO BE COLLABORATIVE FOR EVERYBODY TO
WORK TOGETHER ON LEGISLATION THAT MAKES THIS PROVINCE A
BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. AND TIME AND AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN PROPOSING
REAL MEANINGFUL AMENDMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD DO JUST THAT, JUST THAT THING WE’RE
BEING REQUIRED TO DO AND EVERY TIME WE ARE VOTED DOWN. AND
VOCALLY VOTED DOWN AND REJECTED. I WANT TO REGISTER THAT
DISAPPOINTMENT. I’M NOT TRYING TO, I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE MY
TOYS AND GO HOME. I’M NOT DOING THAT. I WILL CONTINUE TO STAND
HERE AND BE A VOICE FOR THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT. I WANT TO
REGISTER THAT. HOPE ONE DAY SOMEHOW, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT IN
THIS HOUSE. MAYBE IT’S CASUALLY IN A CONVERSATION. BUT WE FIND
OUT WHY IT IS THAT THIS GOVERNMENT REFUSES TO
COLLABORATE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: SHALL THE TITLE CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: SHALL THE BILL
CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: THE BILL IS CARRIED. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE GOVERNMENT HOUSE CLEARED.
>>BILL 213, SUSTAINABLE. The Chair: BILL 213, THE
SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT GOALS ACT. I RECOGNIZE THE CLERK.
The Clerk: BILL NUMBER 213 WAS REFERRED FROM THE COMMITTEE
ON LAW AMENDMENTS TO THE HOUSE WITHOUT AMENDMENTS. AND
CONTAINS 16 CLAUSES. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CHANGE SHEETS
FOR THE OPPOSITION PARTIES AND WOULD LIKE THE INSTRUCTIONS AS
TO WHETHER WE DISTRIBUTE ALL OF THE CHANGE SHEETS AT THIS TIME. The Chair: IMEMBERS TO MAKE
SURE THEY HAVE ALL THEIR SHEETS. THERE
SHOULD BE EIGHT FOR N.D.P., ARE ONLY GOING TO BE
DOING IT THROUGH 7. SURE YOU HAVE 2 THROUGH 8. OK. AND
PC. EVERYONE HAVE? WE’RE NOT DOING N.D.P. 1. WE’RE DOING
2 THROUGH YOU DO NOT HAVE NUMBER SOME DIDN’T.
OK. AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH FOR BILL. IT’SBIT
COMPLICATED. SO I ASK THAT THE CHATTER IN THE CHAMBER, IT
DID GET A LITTLE NOISY THERE. I KNOW IT’S HARD, BUT REALLY
ARE TO GET THROUGH THIS. IT’S CHALLENGING FOR THE CLERKS AND I
TO SEE WHO IS STANDING UP AND WHO IS SAYING AND GET GOES
DIRECTION FOR EACH OTHER. SHALL CLAUSE 1 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I APPRECIATE YOU ENDEAVOURING TO
CARRY OUT THIS CHALLENGING PROCESS FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT
ACT. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE SHORT TITLE OF THE ACT.
ESSENTIALLY TO SOME OF THE THINGS ON WHICH WE ARE NOT
BRINGING FORWARD AMENDMENTS. AND THAT A NUMBER OF
VERY IMPORTANT FILES RELATED TO FORESTRY AND RELATED TO THE ROLE
OF NOVA SCOTIA’S FORESTS IN REGULATING OUR CLIMATE
SEQUESTERING CARBON AND PROTECTING OR PROVIDING, I
GUESS, THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE BIODIVERSITY MAY FLOURISH. WE
ARE NOT BRINGING FORWARD AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THOSE
PARTICULAR QUESTIONS THAT ARE VERY INTERRELATED WITH THIS
LEGISLATION, BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS WORK
THAT HAS BEEN DONE. AND WHERE WE EXPECT TO SEE, WILL
BE REMAINING ATENTIVE TO SEE HOW
THE GOVERNMENT CARRIES OUTWORK. FOR EXAMPLE, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO US WE THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THIS
AT THIS MOMENT – THAT THE GOVERNMENT FULLY CARRY OUT THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REPORT ON FORESTRY, ON PRACTICES.
AND LIKE WISE, WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AS IT WAS
ACKNOWLEDGED INDEED YESTERDAY AT LAW AMENDMENTS THAT THAT REPORT
WAS EVEN THE FIRST REPORT ON TRYING TO THE RIGHT
BALANCE IN OUR LAND USE ACROSS NOVA SCOTIA. SO I THINK IT’S
IMPORTANT FOR US TOWITH SOME PEOPLE WHO
CORRESPONDED WITH US WHO CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT CLIMATEAND ARE
VERY AWARE OF THE IMPACT OF LAND USE CHANGES AND OF
FORESTRY PRACTICES AND AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES ON EITHER
THE SEQUESTERING OR RELEASE OF CARBON INTO THE ATMOSPHERE.
THAT WILL WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE SECTORS AND
WE’RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT BY PROPOSING 5E789S SPECIFIC 5E789 – AMENDMENTS SPECIFIC, WE
WILL REMAIN ATTENTIVE AS THE
PURSUES ITS AGENDA THROUGH OTHER MEANS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
BEAVER BANK.
>>YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME CHAIR. MADAME CHAIR,
JUST CONFIRMING, SO CURRENTLY I WOULD MOVE OR I WOULD DIRECT
MEMBERS LOOK AT CWHBPC1 WHICH
WOULD BE A AMENDMENT TO THE BILL ON PAGE 1 INCLUDES 1 TO ADD
QUOTE ENVIRONMENT AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE. AND IF I
MADAME SPEAKER, VERY QUICKLY TO SPEAK ON THIS, I DID RAISE
THIS YESTERDAY DURING COMMITTEE. AND DURING THE AMENDMENTS
COMMITTEE AND DID TRY TO HAVE ADDED ON. SEE THIS AS A
VERY AMENDMENT. NOT SUBSTANTIVE TO THE BILL
WHATSOEVER OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT DOES HIGHLIGHT THE NEED
AND THE IMPORTANCE THAT ENVIRONMENT PLAYS IN THIS.
AND I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THE TITLE OF BILL, IT IS
REFLECTED, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WHENEVER THE
BILL BEING CITED WE DO FEEL IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
IMPORTANCE OF ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL. SO WE BRING THIS WILL
FORWARD AT THIS TIME. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CAPE BRETON CENTRE.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. THE N.D.P. CAUCUS WOULD CONCUR WITH
THE P.C. ENDEAVOUR TO BRING THAT AMENDMENT FORWARD, AS WELL.
BECAUSE THE CHANGE JUST ADDING THE NAME, ADDING THE WORD
“ENVIRONMENT” SIGNALS THE CENTRAL INTENTION OF BILL.
AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT
CONTINUES. AND THIS IS A MINOR THAT I WOULD HOPE
WOULDN’T CAUSE ANYBODY TO VOTE THIS. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR INVERNESS.>>I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAKSUPPORT
OF THIS MOTION BY MY COLLEAGUE, MADAME CHAIR. IF I
MAY THE MINISTER QUOTING MYSELF.
The Chair: GO AHEAD.>> QUOTING SOMEBODY QUOTING
ME. [LAUGHTER]
>>BUT AS THE MINISTER HAD QUOTED MYSELF LAST NIGHT, I
GUESS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE IS TOO BIG OF AN
ISSUE TO HAVE POLITICS INFLUENCE IT. I KNOW THAT MIGHT SOUND
KIND FUNNY TO SAY POLITICS IS INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING. BUT I
THE NAME OF THIS BILL, IT WAS AGREED UNANIMOUSLY
WHEN LEGISLATION PERTAINING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND
SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY ACT WAS INTRODUCED BACK IN 2007. THERE
AGREEMENT EVERYBODY. TODAY WE STILL AGREEMENT IN
HERE. THIS IS IS GOING TO BE ESSENTIALLY UPDATED,
WHY KEEP IT ALONG THATTRAIN OF THINKING WITH THOSE
WORDS DESCRIBE THE BILL SO APTLY AT THAT TIME. I THINK THE
GOVERNMENT SHOULD ACCEPT THIS AMENDMENT. AND IF FOR NO OTHER
REASON, MADAME CHAIR, TO ENSURE
WE’RE SHOWING UNISON BEHIND THIS IDEA THAT BROUGHT FORWARD IN
2007. THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT USE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY
POLITICS AND SAY THAT’S SOME OLD PIECE OF LEGISLATION OUT OF DATE
AND NO LONGER RELEVANT. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS BILL, AS I
IS TO JUM DATE THAT LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] — UPDATE THAT LEGISLATION.
The Chair: SHALL THE CARRY?
>>NO. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS
DEFEATED. SHALL CLAUSE 1 CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL CLAUSE 2 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
>>KNEW, MADAME CHAIR. I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO HB N.D.P.-2.
PAGE 1 CLAUSE 2A ADD THE FOLLOWING SUB B, CLIMATE
JUSTICE. MEANS THE UNDERSTANDING THE URGENTNEEDED
TO PREVENT CLOIPG MUST CLIMATE CHANGE
EMERGING FROM COMMUNITY-LED, COMMUNITIES, AFRICAN
NOVA SCOTIAN COMMUNITIES AND MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. WITH
THE GREATEST AND THE TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS
HAVE THE GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY TO IT. AND, B,
PARAGRAPHS B H AND C I. IN THIS CHAMBER, I THINK ALL
MEMBERS HAVE LEARNED OF THE TITLE AND THE CONCEPT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM REALLY I THINK ACROSS NOVA SCOTIA, WHERE
WE OWE A DEBT TO PROFESSOR WALDRIN WHO
HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK TO DOCUMENT ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM
THAT SCOTIANS HAVE EXPERIENCED, PARTICULARLY
AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIANS AND PEOPLE. AND AT THIS
MOMENT, AS MANY OF USCONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT
CLIMATE, IT’S IMPORTANT THAT THIS, THIS SECTION WHERE THE
BROAD FRAMING OF ACTION TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS
SET OUT, THAT CLIMATE JUSTICE PART OF THAT. CLIMATE JUSTICE
IS A WIDELY ACCEPTED PRINCIPLE EXPRESSES THE NEED FOR
EQUITY AND FOR JUST TRANSITION TO BE CENTRAL TACKLING THE
CLIMATE CRISIS. AND THIS SHOULD BE ONE OF GUIDING MAXIMS FOR
THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: RECOGNIZE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
BANK.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME
SPEAKER. MADAME SPEAKER, I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT IT’S
UNFORTUNATE. I KNOW SOME OF AMENDMENTS COME FORWARD ON
THE FLOOR WHEN WE WALK IN HERE AS DID THESE EIGHT BEFORE US
FROM THE N.D.P. PARTY. IT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT OUR CAUCUS
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AHEAD OF TIME TO SEE SOME OF THESE
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY AND PARTICULARLY WITH
THE AMENDMENT THAT’S BEFORE US NOW, THERE CERTAINLY PARTS OF
THIS WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE COME UP AND SUPPORTED. WE CERTAINLY
RECOGNIZE AND PERSONALLY RECOGNIZE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL
RACISM IS A THING. I WAS A COUNCILLOR REPRESENTING AN
AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIAN COMMUNITY FOR YEARS. ASSISTANT
IS AN AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIAN GENTLEMAN. I REPRESENTED AN
AREA FOR 16 YEARS THAT WAS A LOWER AREA AND WAS
IMPACTED BY A LANDFILL IN UPPER SACKVILLE THAT MANY FELT WENT
THERE BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMICS OF THAT COMMUNITY. SO I
CERTAINLY AM BY NO MEANS A DENIER OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM.
I HAVE HAD INDEPTH AND INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS WITH
PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS IS A REAL THING. IT
DOES EXIST. SO I THINK THAT FROM A PERSPECTIVE, WE
CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR CLIMATE JUSTICE AND ALL THAT
PART, BUT, HOWEVER, MADAME SPEAKER, THE REAL HANG UP FOR ME
HERE IS OUR CAUCUS HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS AND TO
TALK ABOUT THE LAST LINE, WHICH IS THE WITH GREATEST
ABILITY TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE HAVE THE GREATEST
RESPONSIBILITY ADDRESS IT. AND I’M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON’T
SUPPORT THAT CONCEPT. I’M SAYING IS WE HAVE NOT HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT THE IMPLICATIONS THAT MIGHT
HAVE. AND BASED ON THE INABILITY TO HAVE THAT
DISCUSSION AT OUR CAUCUS, WE CAN’T SUPPORT THIS MOTION AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. AND MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK
BRINGS UP AN IMPORTANT POINT. WE DISCUSSED, ACTUALLY,
EVEN AMONG THE HOUSETHIS SESSION BRINGING, MAKING
SURE EVERYONE CAN SEE AMENDMENTS ADVANCE. BUT THIS KIND OF
FUNCTION OF BRINGING IN HUGE PIECES LEGISLATION
AT THE END OF A SESSION AND CALLING DAY AFTER DAY. KNOW WERE
LAW AMENDMENTS LATE INTO THE NIGHT.
AND THEN WE, BETWEEN THEN AND NOW UP WITH THEAMENDMENTS THAT
WE BEST THOUGHT ENCAPSULATED WHAT ALLDOZENS
COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD LAW AMENDMENTS, MADAME
CHAIR, AND SO WE ARE CERTAINLY SYMPATHETIC TO FACT THAT OUR
COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT SEEN THESE AMENDMENTS. OUR GOVERNMENT
COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT SEEN AMENDMENTS. WE WISH THAT WE
WOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE MINISTER.
SEND THEM BACK INTO THE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT THEM. TO
THEM. BUT WE’RE HAMSTRUNG THIS PROCESS WHERE
WE’RE STEAM ROLLING THROUGH LEGISLATION AT THE OF A
SESSION. WE JUST DON’T HAVE THE TIME. SO I WOULD JOIN IN
COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK SAY,
GEE, IT BE GREAT IF WE ACTUALLY HAD FEW MORE DAYS TO
DEBATE A BILL AND ACTUALLY PREPARE A SPEECH AND ACTUALLY
AMENDMENTS, AND BE ABLEDO OUR JOBS IN THE WAY I THINK
CONSTITUENTS EXPECT DO. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
>> YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM
COLLEAGUE SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK. JUST WANTED ADDRESS
THE POINT GAVE HIM PAUSE. BECAUSE IT IS A CHALLENGING
THING TO WRAP ONE’S HEAD AROUND THAT FOR THIS VERY PRECIOUS
WHERE WE LIVE, TO CONTINUE TO BE A HABITABLE PLANETIS THE
ONLY HABITABLE PLANET THAT WE KNOW OF IN THE UNIVERSE,
WE CANNOT OVERSPEND OUR CARBON BUDGET. ANDSCIENTISTS
HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO CALCULATE WHAT THE
CAPACITY OF OUR ATMOSPHERE IS TO HOLD GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN TO A OF COMFORT WITH THE
OR THE MEASURE OF PARTS PER MILLION, YOU KNOW, 350 PARTS
PER MILLION OF CARBON IN THE ATMOSPHERE IS WHAT THE
PREINDUSTRIAL LEVEL WAS ORWHERE THE LEVEL IT WAS STILL OK.
AND WE PAST THAT AT SOME POINT AROUND MY BIRTH MAYBE.
NOW WE’RE UP OVER 400. THAT IS WHY
– ARE ACTUALLY WARMING. THE WARMING CAUSES ALL THE OTHER
IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. BUT MEASURE THAT I AM STILL
OF COMING TO WITH, LIKE IN AN INTELLECTUAL
VISUALIZING KIND OF FASHION IS IDEA OF A BUDGET,
WHICH IS MADE UP OF TONNES OF CARBON THAT WE HAVE EMITTED
THROUGH ACTIVITIES ON THIS PLANET. AND SCIENTISTS, YOU
KNOW, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT THE TOTALBUDGET
FOR OUR PLANET TO REMAIN, REMAIN HABITABLE IS 2900 GIGA
TONNES. AND WE HAVE ALREADY EMITTED 2100 GIGA TONNES THROUGH
HUMAN ACTIVITY ON THIS PLANET. AND SO THERE’S 800 GIGA TONNES LEFT. SOCIETIES, SOME
COUNTRIES, SOME FAMILIES CERTAINLY CERTAINLY NOT THAT
MANY BILLIONAIRES ON THIS PLANET ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VASTLY MORE
GIGA TONNES OF CARBON UP IN THE ATMOSPHERE. OFDOWN IN
OUR WARMING OCEANS. OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD
OPPORTUNITY TO IN ANY WAY PUT A BURDEN ON OUR PLANET IN
ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT FROM
THE ENERGY THAT COMES THROUGH EMITTING CARBON. AND NOW, SO
NOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASKED TO NEVER GET ANY PART OF
THAT BUDGET. AND WHAT WE KNOW IN NOVA SCOTIA, AND, YOU KNOW,
NOVA SCOTIA IS JUST A LITTLE PLACE, BUT WE CAN LOOK AROUND
OUR OWN PROVINCE AND PARTICULARLY WE CAN LOOK THE
HISTORY OF OUR PROVINCE AND SEE THAT FROM OUR – FROM THE
EARLIEST DAYS OF SETTLEMENT IN NOVA SCOTIA, THE PEOPLE WHO
PLACING BURDENS AND WHO WERE EMITTING CARBON AND WERE,
YOU KNOW, PLACING PRESSURE ON THE ECOLOGICAL CARRYING CAPACITY
OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE WERE DOES PROPORTIONATELY SETTLERS
AND WERE DISPROPORTIONATELY SETTLERS WHO WERE NOT OF
COLOUR. AND OF THAT’S ONLY ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WECAN,
YOU KNOW, GAUGE JUDGE AND TALLY IMPACT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM. ANYHOW, I
WANTED TO TO THAT. I UNDERSTAND IT IS SOMETHING TO
ONE’S AROUND. I’M WRAPPING MY AROUND IT. I
THINK WE HAVE TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND IT AS AS BE. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK.
>>YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME SPEAKER. JUST FOLLOW
ON POINTS THERE. DO FEEL THAT UNFORTUNATELYCURRENT
SYSTEM THAT WE’RE HERE IN TODAY, WHETHER IT BE THIS
GOVERNMENT OR ANOTHERGOVERNMENT, ONLY WAY TO
CREATE THE BEST LEGISLATION IN MY OPINION THAT THE BEST
OF NOVA SCOTIANS IS TOTOGETHER. WE DON’T ALWAYS GET
THE BEST EXAMPLE BEING. SAID THAT, I GIVE
KUDOS TO THE N.D.P. THE NUMBER
OF AMENDMENTS THEY’REFORWARD. I KNOW WHAT MY
PERSONAL VIEWS ARE. PERSONALLY, I GUESS THE LEADER OF THE NOVA
SCOTIA PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HAS PUT ME INTO THEITIC OF
ENVIRONMENT ROLE FOR A REASON. I CERTAINLY DO SUPPORT MANY OF
WHAT MUCH OF WHAT WAS SAID PREVIOUSLY. HOWEVER, NOT HAVING
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH OUR CAUCUS, WE JUST CAN’T
SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
COBEQUID.>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. MY
MY COLLEAGUE FROM SACKVILLE BEAVER
BANK CORRECTLY. WE HAVEN’T HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS
WITH CAUCUS. AROUND THE CAUCUS TABLE, I WOULD
BE IN SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT, NO QUESTION THAT. WHICH
LEADS ME TO AN OBSERVATION I HAVE HAD SINCE JOINING THIS
LEGISLATURE. AND THAT IS THE PROCESS AROUND WHICH WE ARE ABLE
TO IN ADVANCE – The Chair: YOU NEED TO SPEAK
TO THE CLAUSE. THE AMENDMENT.>> SEE. OK. WHEN CAN I SPEAK
TO PROCESS? The Chair: THAT’S DURING THE
TITLE.>>OK. THANK YOU.
The Chair: WE THAT. LATER ONE AT THE END. THERE’S
ANOTHER TITLE. ANYONE ELSE? SHALL THE AMENDMENT CARRY?
>>NO. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT CAN
DEFEATED. SHALL CLAUSE 2 CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL CLAUSES 3 THROUGH 5 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: SHALL CLAUSE 6
CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX
NEEDHAM.>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.
THIS IS A SECOND OPPORTUNITY TO INJECT JUSTICE AND THAT
IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION INTO BILL. CLAUSE 6 SPEAKS TO
THE GOALS INITIATIVES THAT ARE TO PURSUED THROUGH THIS
LEGISLATION. IT READS GOALS AND INITIATIVES ESTABLISHED UNDER
ACT IN REGULATIONS, MUST ALIGN WITH THE FOCUS AREAS. I
MOVE THAT WE ADD THE FOLLOWING SUB CLAUSE, F, THE ACHIEVEMENT
OF CLIMATE JUSTICE AND B, RELETTER PARAGRAPH F AND G AND G
AND H. THERE’S A LIST OF FOCUS AREAS WHICH THE REGULATIONSBE IN
ALIGNMENT WITH. AND ONE THAT IS MISSING IS THE
ACHIEVEMENT OF JUSTICE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO WHY
THAT IS IMPORTANT AND I HOPE THAT OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION AND GOVERNMENT MEMBERS WILL CONSIDER
THIS WILL BE AN PLACE TO INJECT IT. THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK.
>> YOU, MADAME CHAIR. FOR CLARIFICATION, SO THIS
WOULD BE PAGE 2 INCLUDES 6? YES. SO FOR PREVIOUSLY STATED,
PREVIOUSLY STATED POINTS, WE CAN’T SUPPORT TIME EITHER.
The Chair: SHALL THE CARRY IN.
>>NO. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT
DEFEATED. CLAUSE 6IN.>>CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL CLAUSE 7 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX WHICH
HALIFAX-CHEBUCTO.>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I’M
AFRAID THAT LAST EVENING HERE, I MUST HAVE MADE A BAD MISTAKE. I
GOT UP AND SPOKE FAVOURABLY ABOUT PIECE OF LIBERAL
LEGISLATION. AND EVERYTHING WENT DARK.
[LAUGHTER]>>SO I WENT HOME AND EXPLAINED
THIS TO MY FAMILY. AND THEY SAID, WELL, THIS IS EASILY
FIXED. DON’T EVER MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN.
[LAUGHTER]>>IN THAT CHB N.D.P. 3, AND SPEAK TO
THE AMENDMENT OF PAGE 2 PARAGRAPH 7, B, DELETE BELOW
THE LEVELS THAT WERE EMITTED IN 2005 AND SUBSTITUTE BELOW
THE LEVELS THAT WERE EMITTED IN 2005 OR MEGA TONNES. NOW,
IN THIS 7B CLAUSE, IF THIS PIECE
OF HAS A HEART, THIS IS PROBABLY IT. THIS IS THE
REAL EPICENTRE OF THE MATTER. SO WHEN YOU’RE DIALING WITH THE
CORE AND THE EPICENTRE OF THE MATTER, YOU NEED TO BE CLEAR
ABOUT WHAT IS THE MAIN QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED ABOUT
THIS THING. THAT’S WHAT’S IN FRONT US HERE. WHAT IS THE
MAIN QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED OF 7B, AT LEAST 53% BELOW
THE LEVELS EMITTED IN 2005. NOW, I THINK THERE ARE SOME
PEOPLE WHO THINK THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED OF THIS
CLAUSE IS, IS THIS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE TARGETS
THAT EXISTED BEFORE? IF THAT THE THAT
NEEDS TO ASKED OF THIS, THE ANSWER WOULD BE
YES AND THAT CONCLUDE THE MATTER AND CONVERSATION.
WANT TO THAT THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT FOR US
TO DIRECTING TOWARDSVERY CLAUSE. BE SOME WOULD
SAY, WELL, THIS IS CENTRAL CLAUSE HERE AND THE MAIN
BE DIRECTED TOWARDS IT THIS A TARGET WHICH IS AN
IMPROVEMENT OVER TARGETSOTHER JURISDICTIONS? AND WERE THE
QUESTION THAT WE ASKING OF CLAUSE, I
THE WOULD CLEARLY YES. AND THE DISCUSSION
WOULD BE OVER. WANTPUT BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS ALSO THETHAT
AUGHT TO DIRECTED TO PIVOTOL CLAUSE THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION. AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE QUESTION IS THAT WE NEED TO DIRECT TO THIS
TEXT HERE. I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK A YEAR TO OCTOBER 2018
WHEN THE U.N. BROUGHT OUT THAT
DEFINING SEMINAL REPORT ON, THROUGH THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL
PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGECONFINING GLOBAL WARMING TO
WITHIN 1.5 OFLEVELS. NOW, THAT LANDMARK
WITH ITS THOUSANDS OF PAGES AND ITS HUNDREDS OF
WITNESSES AND AUTHORS CAN REALLY BOILED DOWN TO ONE
KEY CENTRAL THOUGHT. AND THAT KEY CENTRAL THOUGHT OF THAT
DEFINING REPORT IS THIS, THAT THE WORLD MUST MAKE MAJOR AND
DRAMATIC ADJUSTMENTS IN THE NEXT 11 YEARS IN ORDER AVOID THE
CAT KATA HEATING. THIS U.N.DEFINES THE
MOMENT WHERE WETODAY. IT ESTABLISHES THE WHOLE
FRAMEWORK FOR STRUGGLE AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING. DEFINES
AND SETS OUT THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE CLIMATE
EMERGENCY AND THE STRUGGLE AGAINST IN THIS CLIMATE
MOMENT. AND IT DEFINES AND PUTS IN FRONT OF US THE QUESTION THAT
MUST DIRECTED TOWARDS THIS SECTION 7B OF THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. ULTIMATELY THERE’S ONLY ONE QUESTION THAT
NEEDS TO BE ASKED OF ANY PROPOSAL FOR GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSION REDUCTIONS IN 2019. AND THAT QUESTION IS THIS, IS
PROPOSAL OR IS THAT PROPOSAL NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE
U.N. IPCC FRAMEWORK LIMITING GLOBAL WARMING TO 1.5 ?
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION REDUCTION WHICH ARE
WITHIN FRAMEWORK ARE WORTHY OF OUR DEEP SUPPORT. AND
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION REDUCTION TARGETS WHICH ARE NOT
WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK ARE DESERVING OF REJECTION AND
OUR RESISTANCE. SO WE TURN TO THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
GOALS ACT ASK THE QUESTION WHICH WE HEARD SO MANY
PRESENTERS YESTERDAY AT THE LAW AMENDMENTS COMMITTEE OF
THIS BILL. AND SPEAK ABOUT IN THE WAY THAT FRAMED BY THE
POSING OF QUESTION. IS THIS TARGET CONSISTENT WITH IS
.5 OR IS IT NOT? MADAME CHAIR, HERE’S WHAT I WISH TO SAY ABOUT
THIS. IT NOT. A TARGET OF 58% BELOW 2005 LEVELS SUSPECT
CONSISTENT WITH THIS IMPERATIVE. AND THE LEGISLATED TARGET IN
BILL PRESENTED AT 53% IS NOT. THE THE
THAT WE ARE PREPARING AND HAVE PUT BEFORE THE IS
TO REPLACE A TARGET WHICH FALLS SHORT OF THE IPCC POSITION, WITH
ONE THAT MEETS IT. THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER SACKVILLE BANK.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAME CHAIR.
MADAME CHAIR, IN THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT THE PC CAUCUS CAN
SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. AND WE HOPE THAT GOVERNINGDOES, AS
WELL. I THINK THAT THE LEADER OF THE N.D.P. CERTAINLY
SPOKE PROBABLY MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I WILL ON THIS, HOWEVER, WE
ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. IT HAS BEEN THROUGH THE IPCC WE
DO NEED TO REACH CERTAIN GOALS. THE CURRENT LAID OUT AT
53% HAS BEEN SHOWN THROUGH BOTH ECOLOGY ACTION AS
OTHERS, THIS NOT GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. THE
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE SPECIAL REPORT
DID SUGGEST THAT WE TRY TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND THAT THIS SUBMISSION BEFORE US
HELP TO DO THAT. THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO NEGATIVE TO
GETTING TO THOSE EMISSIONS AT A QUICKER RATE. AND GIVEN THE
PRESENTATION ACT, LAW AMENDMENTS YESTERDAY, IT WAS SHOWN THAT AT
A 53 PUNISHES DECREASE BELOW THE 2005 EMISSIONS, THAT WE WILL NOT
HIT THAT TARGET. HOWEVER, THE AMENDMENT THAT’S BEFORE WILL
GET US TO THE 9.8 MILLA TONNES. WE DO THAT. I ALSO
OFFER THAT THE CONSULTANT’S REPORT THAT THE ECALGARY ACTION
CENTRE DID HAVE DONE, IT DID SHOW BY REACHING
THAT, THOSE 9.8 MEGA TONNES, BELOW THAT, THAT IT WOULD HAVE A
BENEFIT TO THE NOVAECONOMY OF $9.8 BILLION WOULD BE
ADDED TO THE GDP BETWEEN NOW AND 2030. – BOTH FOR OF THOSE
REASONS, SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT’S US.
[APPLAUSE] The Chair: RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE COBEQUID.
>> YOU, MADAME CHAIR. AS MESSAGESSED MENTIONED EARLIER, I WILL MAKE
FAUX FAUX PAS. I WOULD LIKE MAKE
INTRODUCTION. The Chair: MAY.
>>WE HAVE NEWLY ELECTED AND SWORN IN COUNCILLOR FROM LOWER
SACKVILLE SWORN IN AS WEEK. PAUL RUSSELL.
[APPLAUSE] SEATED NEXT TO HIM NOT SO NEW
FELLOW. DAVID HENDSBEE AND FORMER MEMBER OF HOUSE,
PLEASE ME IN WELCOMING [APPLAUSE] The Chair: DOES THE CARRY? I RECOGNIZE
THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF LANDS AND FORESTRY.
>>THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. I WASN’T GOING TO ANYTHING.
WHEN I HEAR TALK ABOUT THE TARGETS ACROSS THE FLOOR I
THOUGHT I WOULD A FEW WORDS TO THE DEBATE ON THIS PARTICULAR
AMENDMENT. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FOR
CLARIFICATION, THE IPCC REPORT DID SAY IF ALL JURISDICTIONS
WERE TO GET TO THIS LEVEL 53% BELOW 2005 LEVELS BY 2030, WE
WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP WARMING WITHIN 1.5 . I
KNOW WHAT THE MEMBERREFERRING TO. AND THAT IS THE
PRINCIPLE WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE THAN THE LESS
EVOLVED JURISDICTIONS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CLEAR.
BUT WE ALSO DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE ACTTO
REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS AND IF THOSE TARGETS HAVE TO BE
UPDATED, THEN THEY CAN BE BE. WE SHOULD BESURPASSING THE
TARGET WE SET OUT AS WE HAVE WITH OTHER TARGETS
SET IN THE PAST. I WOULD ALSO LIKE, SAY, CHALLENGE SOME OF THE
MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY IN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY OR SO-CALLED
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY ABOUT GETTING TO A
SPECIFIC TARGET AND ASKING TO FURTHER, EXPLAIN HOW THEY
INTEND TO THERE. WHEN WE BROUGHT IN PRICINGABOUT A YEAR
AGO, OVER A YEAR AGO, WE ACTUALLY HAD PLAN IN
PLACE TO DRIVE EMISSIONS DOWN FURTHER WHICH WASN’T SUPPORTED
BY I DON’T THINK EITHER PARTY OPPOSITE. BUT I CONTINUOUSLY
IN QUESTION PERIOD WHEN THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES ASK
ABOUT TAX, WHICH DOESN’T EXIST HERE. HAVE
CAP AND TRADE SYSTEM HERE THAT ALLOWS US TO
COMPLEMENT AN ALREADY HARD CAP IN OUR ELECTRICITY SECTOR, WHICH
IS AN IMPLICIT CARBON PRICING WE HAVE IN REGULATIONS WHICHUS TO
DRIVE DOWN OUR RATES. THAT IS ONE OF MAIN BEEN ABLE TO
DRIVE DOWN OUR GHG EMISSIONS IN THE
PROVINCE. BUT THAT ONLY ENCAPSULATES THAT% OF OUR
EMISSIONS WITH OUR CAP AND SYSTEM, IT US TO COVER
ABOUT 80% OF OUR EMISSIONS AND BUSINESS USUAL WITHOUT THAT
SYSTEM GETS US TO ABOUT 45% BY 2030. THIS IS A STRETCH TARGET.
ONE OF THE MECHANISMS WE’LL BY ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE CAPTRADE
SYSTEM THAT COMPLEMENTS THE OTHER IMPLICIT CARBON
PRICING. IF LOOK AT WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY. WE TALKED
ABOUT U.N., IPCC COMMISSION AND IMF, ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS
YOU DON’T HAVE A CARBON PLAN ANY KIND OF CARBON
PRICING PLAN. THAT IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DRIVE DOWN
EMISSIONS. IT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY. THAT’S WHY
NUMEROUS ALL PROGRESSIVE JURISDICTIONS ACROSS NORTH
AMERICA AND INDEED THE WORLD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING DIFFERENT
SYSTEMS THAT WORK FOR JURISDICTION. OURS IS BASED
WITH HELP WITH WESTERN INITIATIVE. THAT’S AN
ORGANIZATION THAT’S KNOWN AS BEING ONE OF THE MOST
PROGRESSIVE SYSTEMS IN THE WORLD. AND WE MODELED OUR
SYSTEM OFF THAT. WE ARE A BOARD MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION IN
CALIFORNIA. I KNOW THE PRESIDENT HAS TAKEN ON LAWSUIT
FOR TRADING QUEBEC. ITKNOWN AS CREDIBLE SYSTEM. WE
HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IF WE WANT TO UP AUCTIONS TO EMBRACE THAT
CARBON PRICING. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY. I WANTED TO MAKE
THE POINT THAT THE HAVE SAID MANY ECONOMISTS FROM SWEDEN
THAT WON THE PRIZE. THE ECO FISCAL COMMISSION. I COULD
GO ON ON. ALL AGREED HAVE A PLAN WITHOUT SOME
TYPE OF PRICING. IMEMBERS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF
CURRENTLY IN SAYING IT’S EASY TO SAY TARGET. YOU COULD SAY
WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT. SOME POINT IN TIME YOU HAVE TO
LISTENING TO THE SCIENCE AND LISTENING TO THE MOST
EFFECTIVE WAYS TO DRIVE DOWN EMISSIONS THAT HAPPENED ACROSS
JURISDICTIONS. WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO THAT. WE HAVE
MORE OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER DARTMOUTH.
RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER DARTMOUTH SOUTH.
>>THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBER FOR
TIMBERLEA-PROSPECT FOR JOINING THE DEBATE TODAY.
[APPLAUSE]>>IT’S REFRESHING WHEN
WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. A FEW COMMENTS THOUGH ON WHAT
PRESENTED. YES, YES. WE NEED A CARBON PRICING STRUCTURE. BUT I
THE OF ALL THE THINGS WE HEARD YESTERDAY IN
AMENDMENTS WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY, AND THE GOVERNMENT’S OWN
MOTION ON THE FIRST OF THIS SITTING, WE ARE IN A CLIMATE
EMERGENCY. WITH RESPECT, TO THE EXTENT WE DIDN’T WHOLEHEARTEDLY
SUPPORT THE CAP AND IT’S WE FELT AS AS
WITH THIS ACT, IT WAS THE BARE MINIMUM. YES, KUDOS TO DOING
IT, WE BELIEVE IN BUT WE THINK THAT
THERE’S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. AS FOR THE REVIEW OF THE ACT IN
YEARS, YEARS IS TOO LONG. IT’S LONG. WE ARE IN
A CLIMATE EMERGENCY. AND I THINK THE REALITY IS. IT’S ONE
WE LIKE SPEAK ABOUT. CANADA IS ONE OF THE WORST. AND
WE ARE ONE OF THE WORST POLLUTERS BACK TO
AMENDMENT, TO THIS NUMBER. THE IPCC REPORT IS A RELATIVELY
CONSERVATIVE REPORT ACTUALLY THAT LOOKING AT GLOBAL
NUMBERS, BUT RECOGNIZE IN THAT REPORT AND I DON’TEXACTLY HOW
THEY REFERRED TO THE PRINCIPLE, BASICALLY THE
PRINCIPLE OF COLLECTIVE DISTRIBUTED RESPONSIBILITY. SO
THAT 53% ACTUALLY HAS TO DISTRIBUTED ACROSS NATIONS
THE DEGREE TO WHICH THEY POLLUTE. WE’RE NOT
PULLING THIS THE AIR. IT DIRECTLY FROM THE
REPORT. IT’S A COMBINATION OF THAT ONE NUMBER AND THE
PRINCIPLE THAT NATIONS NEED TO REDUCE TARGETS NEED TO BE
SET ACCORDING TO HOW MUCH THEY POLLUTE. WITH RESPECT, I
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ALL THE MEMBERS. THINK THAT
THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT AS LEADER OF OUR PARTY SAID GOES TO
THE OF THIS. AND WE COULD BE MORE BOLD. WE COULD BE
COURAGEOUS WITH THIS TARGET. I THINK IF WE’RE SERIOUS ABOUT
EMERGENCY, WANT TO ACTUALLY TRANSFORM OUR ECONOMY
WHICH IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET TO TARGET, WE SHOULD
PASS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
BEAVER BANK.>>YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MADAME CHAIR. MADAMEGUESS, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY
IN THIS HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION BEFORE
US NOW IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THAT OUR CAUCUS IS BEING
LOOKING AT HAD A DISCUSSION THIS MORNING ABOUT AN
INFERIOR PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE IT
THROWN BACK BY MEMBERS ACROSS THIS HOUSE THAT WE ARE
ANTIEDUCATION OR ANTI-HOSPITALS OR ANTI-ENVIRONMENT. WE ARE
CERTAINLY NOT ANTI-ENVIRONMENT. WE WANT TO SEE THE BEST
LEGISLATION GO FORWARD THAT POSSIBLY CAN. AND
MADAME CHAIR, IT’S THE LACK OF CONSULTATION
AND THE MIGHTIER THAN THOU ATTITUDE FROM SOME MEMBERS IN
THIS HOUSE THAT THEY DON’T CO-OPERATE WITH EVERYBODY AND
THEREFORE AS I SAID EARLIER, WE END UP WITH INFERIOR HAVE TO
VOTE FOR, BECAUSEWE DON’T, WE’RE IN THE PAPER
SAYING WE’RE ANTI-ENVIRONMENT. PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS IN NOVA
SCOTIA CERTAINLY IS NOT ANTI-ENVIRONMENT. WE WERE THE
ONES THAT BROUGHT FORWARD E S PA. AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO WIPE THAT OFF SO THE LIBERALS STAND UP
AND SAY ENVIRONMENTALISTS. FAR FROM ENVIRONMENTALISTSTHEY
COME. WHAT I WOULD POINT OUT, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE
GREENHOUSE GAS TARGETS LAID OUT HERE ARE AMBITIOUS. THEY ARE
ONE OF THE HIGHEST AND A REFLECTION WHAT WAS IN E S PA.
THEY ARE ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARGETS IN CANADA. I FEEL THEY
ARE INSUFFICIENT TO MEET, TO WHEN WE LOOK AT EUROPEAN
COUNTERPARTS AND THETARGETS THEY HAVE SET,SCIENCE AND
INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS HAVE CLEARLY COME OUT
AND SAID NOVA SCOTIANS MUST DO MORE AND I DON’T SEE THE
AMENDMENT BEFORE US. I DO SEE IT AS BEING
SIGNIFICANT TO WHAT IS THERE, WHAT IS CAN YOU REMEMBER BEING
SUGGESTED IN THE BILL. BUT IT IS SIGNIFICANT TO MAKE
THE DIFFERENCE TO MEET THAT 1.5 TARGET. WE STILL SUPPORT THAT.
THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR. [APPLAUSE] The Chair: GOOD DEBATING
GOING ON HERE, FOLKS. DOES THE CARRY?
>>NO. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT
DEFEATED. CLAUSE 7 CARRY?>>CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL CLAUSE 8 CARRY?
>>CARRY. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH. – NORTH,
SORRY.>>THANK MADAME CHAIR. I
WOULD LIKE TO DRAW THE MEMBERS’ ATTENTION CWHB N.D.P.-4. AND
PROPOSE THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT. PAGE 3 INCLUDES 8A, ADD THE
FOLLOWING SUB CLAUSE, B, DEVELOPING A STRATEGY FOR
EDUCATION REGARDING CLIMATE CHANGE TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL
PROGRAM AND B, CLAUSES B TO D AS C TO E. MADAME CHAIR, AND
COLLEAGUES, THIS DEMAND OR THIS IS A KEY DEMAND THAT WE HEARD AT
THE LAW AMENDMENTS COMMITTEE YESTERDAY FROM MANY OF YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE TO COME TO SPEAK AT LAW AMENDMENTS. IT
WAS QUITE AMAZING YESTERDAY IN LAW AMENDMENTS TO SEE SO MANY
YOUNG PEOPLE COME. MANY OF THEM THE LEADERS OF THE CLIMATE
STRIKE WHICH BROUGHT 10,000 PEOPLE TO THE STREETS OF HALIFAX
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. AND FRANKLY MADAME CHAIR, WE SHOULD
LISTEN THEM. MANY OF THEM SPOKE OF LACK OF EDUCATION
THEY RECEIVED AT SCHOOL ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND HAVE NEEDED
TO EDUCATE EACH OTHER AND THEMSELVES. WE POINTED
QUESTIONS THAT. WE SAID WHERE DID YOU ABOUT THAT?
THEY SAID OR DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THIS SCHOOL? THEY SAID NO.
LEARNED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY FROM THEIR PARENTS AND
INTERNET AND GRETA THUNBERG. THEY DID NOT LEARN IT
SCHOOL. IMAGINE IF WETEACHING OUR CHILDREN ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE AND ABOUT HOW TO MITIGATE IT IN PUBLIC SCHOOL.
WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR HONESTY TO THE NEXT GENERATION.
I SAID THIS AT LAW AMENDMENTS, I HAVE NOT DISCUSS THIS HADMY
DAUGHTER. MY COLLEAGUE TALKING, I BEGAN
TO FEEL FEARFUL AND DREADFUL AND DEPRESSED ABOUTCONVERSATION.
[PLEASE STAND BY] [ Stand by for captioning ] NO — I FORGET WHAT THE SLOGAN
IS, BUT IN ANY CASE, WHEN 16-YEAR-OLD GIRLS ARE MAILING
MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, WE NEED TO STOP
AND LISTEN TO THEM AND WE NEED TO, AS I SAID, PROVIDE THEM WITH
INFORMATION AND SCIENCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE — HAVE THAT,
ARMED WITH THAT, I HATE USING THAT EXPRESSION. AND WE NEED TO
DO WELL BY THE CHILDREN WHO ARE, AS I SAID, INHERITING THIS EARTH
FROM US. THANK YOU. The Chair: I’D LIKE TO REMIND
MEMBERS TO KEEP THE CHATTER DOWN IN THE CHAMBER. I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR VACVILLE BEAVER BANK.
// THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR, WE ALSO
WILL SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT THAT’S BEFORE US. MADAM CHAIR,
GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT
THE CURRICULUM IS SCIENCE-BASED AND FACTUAL AND ONE OF THE
CONCERNS I PERSONALLY HAD IS EXCEPT MY UNDERSTANDING BEING
EXCEPT FOR THE — FOR GRADE 12 GLOBAL GEOGRAPHY CLASS WHICH
DOES HAVE A HUGE COMPONENT THAT’S DIRECTLY RELATED TO
CLIMATE CHANGE, THERE REALLY ISN’T AND THE MINISTER OF
EDUCATION MAY CORRECT ME ON THIS, BUT THERE REALLY ISN’T A
LARGE COMPONENT THAT IS — THAT’S CONSISTENT ACROSS THIS
PROVINCE, THAT’S BEEN SET THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT TO TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. I DO AGREE WITH
THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT NUMEROUS
SPEAKERS CAME FORWARD AND SPOKE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND VERY
FEW OF THEM OR MANY OF THEM, I’M SORRY, SAID THAT VERY FEW
RECEIVED THAT EDUCATION IN THEIR SCHOOLS OR HAD THOSE TALKS IN
THEIR SCHOOLS. THEY WERE RECEIVING IT THROUGH OTHER
PLACES. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT
IT’S FACTUAL, THAT IT’S SCIENCE-BASED, AND THAT IT’S THE
SEAM ACROSS THE CURRICULUM OF THE PROVINCE. MAD TAM SPEAKER,
THE OTHER THING THAT I HEARD YESTERDAY AND IT WAS REAL. I
FELT THAT KIDS — STUDENTS WERE COMING FORD AND THEY WERE
EXPRESSING SOMETHING IT. WAS A TERM THAT THEY CALLED AND SOME
OF THE OTHER PRESENTERS CALLED ENVIRONMENTAL ANXIETY. AND
MADAM SPEAKER, IT’S THE FIRST TIME I REALLY HEARD THAT. I
HEARD THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION NOW ARE TALKING ABOUT
NOT WANTING TO HAVE CHILDREN, NOT WANTING TO — AND BASING
SOME OF THESE DECISIONS ON ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. AM I
GOING TO HAVE A WORLD — I DO WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN, AM I
GOING TO HAVE A WORLD IN TEN INJURIES WHERE I WANT MY
CHILDREN TO LIVE. AND SO I SUPPORT THIS AS MUCH, HAVING
GROWN UP THROUGH A SCHOOL SYSTEM WHERE IN THE 1970 IT IS WAS
GLOBAL FREEZING AND A SECOND ICE AGE IT. IN THE 1980s, WE WENT
THROUGH ACID RAIN. IN THE INSANE 0s, IT WAS THE OZONE
LAYER AND NOW WE’RE TALKING ABOUT GREENHOUSE GASES. I MEAN,
I BY NO MEANS DO NOT TAKE THAT AS ME PUTTING MYSELF INTO ANY
TYPE OF CLIMATE OR ANYTHING ELSE DENIER BECAUSE I’M NOT. I
CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE AND SEE, FEEL THE IMPACTS ON MY OWN. BUT
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CREATE A CURRICULUM THROUGH EDUCATION SO
STUDENTS, WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE MYTHS AND SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO HELP TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT
ANXIETY AND LET OUR YOUNGER GENERATION MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED ON SCIENCE AND WE NEED OUR
CURRICULUM IN OUR SCHOOLS TO REFLECT THAT. AND AS I’VE SAID,
MADAM SPEAKER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS OTHER THAN GLOBAL 12
GEOGRAPHY, THAT’S NOT HAPPENING. I HAD MY 11-YEAR-OLD WHO IS IN
GRADE 6 COME HOME THE OTHER DAY AND I FELT THAT SENSE OF ANXIETY
BECAUSE IT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT THEY WERE HAVING IN THE AND
APPLAUD HER TEACHER FOR ATTEMPTING TO HAVE THAT BUT
WITHOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF EDUCATION COMPONENT IN THE
PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS, WITHOUT HAVING THAT DEFINED CURRICULUM,
I THINK IT LEAVES A LOT UP TO INTERPRETATION AND WHICH
POTENTIALLY CAN JUST FUEL THAT ANXIETY, SO WE SUPPORT THIS AS
WELL. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CAPE BRETON CENTRE.
// THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND JUST A FEW POINTS TO ECHO WHAT
HAPPENED YESTERDAY AT LAW AMENDMENTS. I HAVE TO SAY I WAS
BLOWN AWAY BY THE YOUNG ADULTS THAT PRESENTED. AND THEY WERE
ASKING FOR EDUCATION. NOW, THAT WAS DIFFERENT TO SIT THERE AND
TO BE TOLD BY 1 THEY-YEAR-OLDS AND 15-YEAR-OLDS AND
16-YEAR-OLDS THEY WANT TO LEARN. BECAUSE THE I ASKED EVERY YOUNG
PERSON THAT PRESENTED, I ASKED THEM, HOW DID YOU LEARN ABOUT
THIS? BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW. SO I ASSUMED IT WAS
THE SCHOOL PROGRAM. SADLY, IT’S NOT. THEY’RE LEARNING OFF THE
INTERNET. THEY’RE LEARNING FROM THEIR FRIENDS AND I’M SURE SOME
FAMILIES AND PARENTS BUT THEY’RE ASKING FOR EDUCATION. WHICH I
THOUGHT WAS TELLING. YOU KNOW, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO ASK TO BE
TAUGHT ABOUT THIS. THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT
WOULD EMBRACE AND SAY, YES, WE’LL GLADLY PUT A CURRICULUM
TOGETHER TO TEACH CHILDREN IN SCHOOL BECAUSE THEN YOU DON’T
END UP AT 50 NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT WHAT’S
GOING ON IN THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, THESE
YOUNG ADULTS KNOW A HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN I DO. AND I THINK
THE MOST POIGNANT QUOTE THAT I COULD SAY TO THIS GOVERNMENT
TODAY, WHAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE SAID YESTERDAY WAS DON’T TELL
ME, SHOW ME. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
// THANK YOU. I WANT TO ADD JUST ONE LAST IDEA I GUESS IN
THE HOPES THAT IT WILL LAND ON THE EARS OF EITHER THE
DEPARTMENT — THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT OR THE MINISTER OF
EDUCATION WHICH IS THAT I THINK ONE POWERFUL WAY — ONE POWERFUL
WITH POTENTIAL WAY TO ADDRESS THE MANY CALLS THAT WE HEARD AT
LAW AMENDMENTS FOR EDUCATION IS TO ACTUALLY EQUIP AND FUND OUR
PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO ENGAGE YOUTH, NOT JUST IN EDUCATION ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE WHERE IT’S ALL THE FACTS WHICH FRANKLY ARE
REALLY OVERWHELMING AND WOULD LEAD ANYONE TO DESPAIR, BUT TO
ACTUALLY EQUIP OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO DO THE SORT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION THAT ONE OF THE PRESENTERS YESTERDAY
KAREN McKENDRY SPOKE ABOUT, WHICH ACTUALLY INVOLVES YOUTH
HAVING TIME IN NATURE AND HAVING TIME TO ACTUALLY AS A COMMUNITY
OF YOUNG PEOPLE, HELP TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT ACTUALLY ARE
THE SOURCES OF HOPE IN THIS. SO IMAGINE IF SCHOOL GARDENS WERE
NOT ONLY THE — LICK, WERE NOT UNIFORMLY PROJECTS THAT, YOU
KNOW, PARENTS HAVE TO DO FUNDRAISING FOR BUT IMAGINE IF
THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE CURRICULUM. IMAGINE IF —
IMAGINE IF WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND
WORK ON BUILDING LIVING SHORE LINES WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, A
POWERFUL CLIMATE MITIGATION STRATEGY THAT IS — AT THAT WE
NEED MORE OF ACROSS NOVA SCOTIA. AND ONE OF THE THING THAT IS —
SO FOR ME, SOMETHING THAT HAS ALLEVIATED MY CLIMATE ANXIETY AT
DIFFERENT TIMES IS ACTUALLY SPENDING TIME, YOU KNOW, TRYING
TO WORK ON MY GARDEN. TRYING TO, LIKE, BUILD UP THE SOIL.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, GOOD SOIL IS MADE OUT OF CARBON. WHEN YOU
GROW THINGS, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, TREES GROW BY TAKING CARBON OUT
OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE BARK AND THE
LEAVES AND THE ROOTS AND INTO THE SOIL. SO LET’S NOT JUST END
INDICATE SO THAT — LET’S NOT JUST EDUCATE TO MARCH, YOU KNOW,
EDUCATE TO FUEL ANXIETY. I THINK THAT ANXIETY IS 100%
JUSTIFIED BUT I THINK IT’S ALSO ON US TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES
WHERE YOUTH CAN BUILD SKILLS, RELIEF SOME OF THAT ANXIETY
THROUGH ACTION AND, FRANKLY, THROUGH TIME IN OUR NATURAL
WORLD WHICH IS, LIKE, ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO FEEL SOME EASE
FROM THAT ANXIETY. THANK YOU. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK.
// YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR, IN
BETWEEN SPEAKING, I — THE HONOURABLE MINISTER FOR
EDUCATION DID BRING ME OVER SOME CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER
THE LAST — I’M ASSUMING THE LAST YEAR IN REGARDS TO THE
CURRICULUM IN NOVA SCOTIA AND THAT THEY ARE NOW HAVING A
COMPONENT DIRECTLY RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE. I DO THANK HIM
FOR CLARIFYING THAT AND APPLAUD HIM FOR DOING THIS. HOWEVER, I
DON’T THINK THAT IT MITIGATES THE MOTION THAT’S BEFORE US. IN
FACT, IT WOULD ENFORCE IT. BECAUSE IT WOULD ENTRENCH IT
WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR BILL AND ENSURE THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING
DONE. SO I DON’T SEE — I RECOGNIZE WE ARE DOING THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION, MINISTER.
BUT I DO THINK THERE’S STILL MERITS IN HAVING THAT ENTRENCHED
IN THE LEGISLATION AS WELL CAN WITH MAKES FOR GOING FORWARD.
SO I STILL SUPPORT THE NDP AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH
NORTH. // THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND
VIS-A-VIS, I WASES SO HAPPY TO
HEAR THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION ACTUALLY PROVIDED OUR COLLEAGUE
FROM THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY SOME ENERGY
ABOUT THE EDUCATION PROGRAM GOING ON AND I RESPECTFULLY
WOULD ASK THAT HE POSSESS THE NDP CAUCUS WITH THOSE AS WELL.
The Chair: ALL RIGHT. DOES THE AMENDMENT CARRY? THE
AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. SHALL CLAUSE 8 CARRY? SHALL CLAUSE 9
CARRY? I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH
NORTH. // THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND I
WOULD LIKE DRAW THE MEMBERS’ ATTENTION TO NDP 5, AND I’D LIKE
TO MOVE THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT OR ADDITIONAL. PAGE 3, CLAUSE
9, ADD IMMEDIATELY AFTER SUB-CLAUSE 9-2 THE FOLLOWING
SUB-CLAUSE. 3, NOTWITHSTANDING SUB SECTION 2 OR THE REGULATION,
ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THE FUND MUST BE MADE AVAILABLE TO
COMMUNITIES DISPRO POURS NATIONALLY IMPACTED BY
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES AND
CLIMATE CHANGE. SO, Mr. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK FOR A MOMENT ON THIS AMENDMENT. GENERALLY I THINK
THAT THIS CLAUSE, CLAUSE 9, IS A VERY GOOD ONE. YOU KNOW,
THIS — THE SUSTAINABLE CHALLENGES FUND IS REALLY AN
IMPORTANT PART OF THIS LEGISLATION I THINK AND I TO
WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS FUND. WE KNOW THAT LOCAL
ECONOMIES AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN CLIMATE CHANGE MITIGATION
PROJECTS ARE A KEY COMPONENT SET FORWARD IN THE IPCC REPORT AND
THIS LEGISLATION. SO, YOU KNOW, IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
HAVE THIS FUND IN PLACE. BUT I’D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE
AMENDMENT WE BROUGHT FORWARD RECOGNIZES THAT WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES WHO ARE MOST
ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. AND TO DEVELOP
SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR THEM. AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT
OUT THAT THE WORDING OF THE CHANGE DRAWS ATTENTION TO THOSE
COMMUNITIES DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE,
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM, AND ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES. WE
KNOW IN NOVA SCOTIA, WE HAVE A SEARING HORRIBLE RECORD OF
ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM. MANY CASES OF WHICH ARE STILL IN
EXISTENCE TODAY. YOU KNOW, JUST TO NAME A COUPLE. THE IN FACT
THE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH END OF SHELBURNE, THE BLACK COMMUNITY
IN THE SOUTH END OF SHELBURNE ARE SUFFERING HIGH, HIGH LEVELS
OF CANCER AND ARE UNABLE CURRENTLY TO DRINK THEIR
DRINKING WATER. THEIR TAP WATER. AND THEY’RE SITUATED
RIGHT BESIDE A DUMP. WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE EXAMPLE OF A
MI’KMAW WATER PROTECTORS FIGHTING ALTON GAS ON THE
SHUBENACADIE RIVER. SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO VERY OBVIOUS
EXAMPLES. DUE TO THE REASONS OF HISTORICAL
INJUSTICES, THESE COMMUNITIES WE MADE IT TO FOREFRONT THESE
COMMUNITIES WITH THIS SUSTAINABLE CHALLENGES FUND AND
FIT THEM IN THEIR PATHWAYS FORWARD. THANK YOU.
The Chair: RECOGNIZE THE MEMBER.
// THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Mr. SPEAKER. Mr. SPEAKER, WE’LL
SUPPORT THIS ONE AS WELL. CERTAINLY RECOGNIZING AS WAS
PREVIOUS CONFUSELY DISCUSSED AROUND — AS WAS PREVIOUSLY
DISCUSSED AROUND THIS BILL, THE REALITY OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM
AND ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO
RAISE A FEW ISSUES WITH NUMBER IN ANY EVENT — OR CLAUSE NUMBER
9, Mr. CHAIR. — Mr. SPEAKER, AND THAT WOULD BE,
FIRST OF ALL, THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTIONS AROUND THE SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITIES CHALLENGE AND FUND TO BEGIN WITH. WE DON’T KNOW
WHERE THAT’S COMING FROM. WE DON’T KNOW WHO IS BENEFITTING
OTHER THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEFORE US IN SECTION 2. AND —
OR SUB-SECTION 2 HERE OF CLAUSE 9. WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THE
FUNDING IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM THERE. THE MINISTER HASN’T
REALLY GIVEN DIRECTION TO THAT. SO — BUT I SPECIFICALLY WANTED
TO AT THIS TIME ALSO RAISE CONCERNS THAT I HAD IN REGARDS
TO THAT FUND THAT IT — CAN BE IT SO STATES THE MONEY IN THE
FUND MUST BE MANAGED AND USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS
AND THEN I WENT OH, MY GOODNESS, QUOTE, IF ANY. SO IF ANY
REGULATIONS ARE AROUND THIS FUND, THEN THE MONEY FOR THIS
FUND WILL BE TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY, CLIMATES. SO WE DO
SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT THE NDP ARE BRINGING FORWARD. HOWEVER, BASED ON CLAUSE 9, SUB
SECTION 2, THERE MAY NOT BE ANY BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE ANY
REGULATIONS ACCORDING TO THAT SO WE WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION
THAT’S FROM US. BEFORE US. The Chair: THE AMENDMENT IS
DEFEATED. SHALL CLAUSE 9 CARRY? SHALL CLAUSE 10 AND 11 CARRY?
SHALL CLAUSE 12-1 CARRY? I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER
FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM. // THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I
MOVE THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT, PAGE 3, SUB-CLAUSE 12 (1)A,
DELETE MINISTER AND SUBSTITUTE ROUNDTABLE AND B, LINE 3, ADD AN
ASSESSMENT OF THE ADEQUACY OF GOALS IMMEDIATELY AFTER
INCLUDING. THESE CHAIRS WOULD HAVE REPORTING DONE I THE
ENVIRONMENT ACTS ROUNDTABLE INSTEAD OF THE MINISTER WHICH
WOULD INTRODUCE GETTER
TRANSPARENCY. BY AND LARGE, PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT THE
ROUNDTABLE HAS BEEN POPULATED WITH PEOPLE WITH REAL SKILLS,
REAL — LICK, CREDIBILITY. AND I THINK IT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT,
YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE OF THAT CALIBER STEP UP TO SERVE THE
PROVINCE, WE THEN ONLY CALL ON THEM EVERY SO OFTEN. AND I
THINK HAVING THE COMMITTEE — THE ROUNDTABLE, SORRY, REPORT
DIRECTLY WOULD CREATE AN EXTRA LEVEL OF FRANKLY PRESSURE ON THE
GOVERNMENT THAT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS. THAT — AND THAT NO
MATTER WHOM — NO MATTER WHICH PARTY IS IN GOVERNMENT, THE
GOVERNMENT WILL NEED BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO NEED TO STAY AT
THE ABSOLUTE FOREFRONT OF THE GOVERNMENT’S AGENDA.. AND SO
FRANKLY, I’M NOT OPPOSED TO A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTIVE SHAME
HERE. LIKE, IF THE ROUNDTABLE IS GOING TO REPORT ANNUALLY AND
THAT REPORT IS GOING TO CALL OUT THE GOVERNMENT FOR, YOU KNOW,
NOT HAVING CONDITION CONVENIENTED THE ROUNDTABLE, NOT
HAVING MADE THE PROGRESS PROMISED, THAT IS — THAT CAN BE
CONSTRUCTIVE AND, AGAIN, IN THIS MOMENT OF CLIMATE EMERGENCY, I
THINK THAT IS CALLED FOR. AND A CONTINUAL ASSESSMENT OF THE
ADEQUACY OF OUR GOALS IS SO IMPORTANT AND AS MY COLLEAGUE
FROM DARTMOUTH SOUTH SAID EARLIER ON AN EARLY AMENDMENT,
AFTER FIVE YEARS IS WHOLLY TOO LONG A TIME FRAME. ONE THING
THAT WE KNOW AND THAT SCIENTISTS TALK ABOUT IS THAT THERE ARE
FEEDBACK MECHANISMS IN, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE PART OF THE
MECHANISM OF CLIMATE CHANGE. AS SNOW MELTS, AS GLACIERS MELT, WE
END UP WITH MORE OF OUR PLANET BEING NOT WHITE BUT BROWN OR
BLUE, NOT REFLECTING AS MUCH HEAT BACK UP INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE. SO IT BECOMES A FEDBACK LOOP WHERE CLIMATE
CHANGE BEGETS MORE LIMIT CHANGE. AND SO WE MAY NEED TO REALLY GET
MORE AGGRESSIVE. WE’VE ALREADY PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD
SET US ON, YOU KNOW, TO A GREATER LEVEL OF AMBITION RIGHT
NOW BUT UNTIL ANOTHER TWO YEARS, MAYBE THAT’S WHEN THE ROUNDTABLE
WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YES, THIS WAS, YOU KNOW,.
Aamer: BENEFICIARIES TARGET FOR CANADA AT THE TIME BUT NOW
THE EVIDENCE SHOWS WE MUST DO MORE. WE MUST BE BRAVE AND
UNDERTAKE THE CHARGES THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO THIS AMENDMENT
WOULD ALSO ENABLE THAT AND GIVE THE ROUNDTABLE THAT
RESPONSIBILITY. THANK YOU. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK.
// YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM SPEAKER.
The Chair: CHAIR. I’M IN THE CHAIR.
// TOTALLY ON TOPIC, IT WAS Mr. CHAIR A MOMENT AGO, RIGHT?
I MISSED THAT. I’M SORRY, IT BE THREW ME. WE DO SUPPORT THIS AT
THIS TIME AS WELL. THANK YOU. The Chair: SHALL THE AMENDMENT
CARRY? THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. SHALL CLAUSE 12-1
CARRY? SHALL CLAUSE 12-2 CARRY? SHALL CLAUSE 12-3 — I RECOGNIZE
THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
// MADAM CHAIR, AGAIN, ON NDP 6, PAGE 3, SUB-CLAUSE 12-3, DELETE
AND SUBSTITUTE THE FOLLOWING. 3, THE MINISTER SHALL PROVIDE
THE ROUNDTABLE WITH ALL NECESSARY SUPPORT AND
INFORMATION IN PREPARING AN ANNUAL REPORT UNDER SUB-SECTION
1. I DON’T THINK I NEED TO SAY ANYTHING TO IT, BUT THAT’S WHAT
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THANK YOU.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
BEAVER BANK. // YES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND YES, WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. THE
CURRENT FORM USING THE WORD ” “MAY” CERTAINLY LEAVES A LOT OF
QUESTIONS THERE AND WE WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE IT AS A “SHALL”
THAT THE MINISTER SHALL CONSULT THE ROUNDTABLE AND THAT THE
MINISTER SHALL PROVIDE THE SUPPORT TO THE ROUNDTABLE THAT
THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. THE CURRENT CLAUSE THAT IS
BEFORE US, THAT WORD MAY JUST FOR US IS BY NO MEANS STRONG
ENOUGH. IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE, THE
EXPA ACT, I BELIEVE IT IS SHALL, NOT MAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT
HASN’T HAPPENED. AND I DID RAISE THIS DURING THE SECOND
READING OF THIS BILL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT PAUSE THAT WAS
PART OF THE LEGISLATION, IT WAS LAW, AND THE FACT THAT IT DIDN’T
HAPPEN, I QUESTIONED THAT. THIS — THE AMENDMENT THAT’S
BEFORE US CERTAINLY GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE
ORIGINAL EXPA AND SHOWS THAT IT SHALL HAPPEN AND NOT MAY HAPPEN
AT DISCRETION OF THE MINISTER OR ANYONE ELSE. SO WE WILL SUPPORT
THIS. The Chair: OKAY. DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY? THE AMENDMENT IS DEFEATED. SHALL 12-3 CARRY? SHALL CALL CLASS 13 CARRY?
SHALL 14-1 — I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX
CHEBUCTO. // THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I’M
SPEAKING FROM THE ALCOHOL SEAT CWHC NDP 7 WHICH — FROM THE
CHANGE SEAT. DELETE 14.1 AND
SUBSTITUTE THE FOLLOWING ALMOST THE GOVERNOR IN COUNCIL
SHALL, AFTER PUBLIC CONSULTATION AND BEFORE THIS ACT COMES INTO
FORCE MAKE REGULATIONS A, ESTABLISHING GOALS TO ACHIEVE
SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY CONSISTENT WITH THE PRINCIPLES
AND FOCUS AREAS SET OUT IN THE THIS ACT. AND B, SETTING
AMBITIOUS ANNUAL MAREK NUMERIC AND TIME LINES
INCLUDING, 1, TRANSFORMATION OF EXISTING EMPLOYMENT. 2,
INCREASE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CONES. 3, RENEWABLE SOURCES, 4,
ELECTRIFICATION OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PERSONAL VECKS, 5,
REDUCTION OF EMISSIONS OF NITROGEN OXIDE. 6, REDUCTIONS
OF SULPHUR OXIDE. 8, REDUCTION IN THE DISPOSAL RATE, 9,
INCREASED CONSUMPTION OF LOCAL FOOD. 10, INCREASED LOCAL
PRODUCTION AND 11, 11…. N READING
FROM READING FROM DOCUMENT — READING FROM
DOCUMENT) NOW, THIS AMENDMENT IS SEEKING TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF
THOSE AREAS IN THE PREVIOUS, THE OLD ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND
SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY ACT, THAT ALL OF THOSE AREAS MUST IN THE
NEW LEGISLATION IN ITS REGULATIONS BE STRENGTHENED BY
HAVING NUMERIC TARGETS AND CONCRETE DEADLINES. SO BY MEANS
OF THIS AMENDMENT, THIS PRINCIPLE WOULD APPLY TO THE
NINE AREAS OF THE FORMER LEGISLATION WHICH ARE NOT
INCLUDED IN THE PRESENT LEGISLATION LEGISLATION. THE AMENDMENT
ADDITIONALLY TO THESE NINE WOULD ESTABLISH FOR THE NEW
LEGISLATION TWO NEW AREAS OF TARGETS. ONE IN THE AREA OF
GREEN JOBS CREATION. AND THE SECOND ONE IN THE AREA OF
ELECTRIFICATION OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PERSONAL VEHICLES.
FOR WHICH THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE ALSO NUMERIC TARGETS AND
CONCRETE DEADLINES. NOW, THE GREEN JOBS CREATION TARGET AREA
IS ONE THAT RECOGNIZES OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF THE INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE FRONT OF THIS ECONOMIC
WAVE AND THE LET TRIFICTION TARGET EMBODIES A RECOGNITION
THAT TRANSPORTATION COMPRISES THE LARGEST PORTION OF NOVA
SCOTIA’S ENERGY AT 44%. SO THE THINKING BEHIND THIS AMENDMENT
IS THAT ALL 11 OF THESE AREAS, THE NINE FROM THE FORMER
LEGISLATION, THE TWO WHICH WE ARE HERE BY PROPOSING ADDING,
ALL 11 OF THOSE ARE CRUCIAL TO FINAL FINDING THE PATH OUT OF
THE PRESENT CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND THEREFORE CALL FOR ALL 11 OF
THEM BEING MANDATED BY LEGISLATION. I SHOULD ALSO
POINT OUT THAT NOTHING IN THIS AMENDMENT WOO PRECLUDE THE
ADDITION OF OTHER TARGET AREAS TO THIS LIST. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK.
// YES. THANK YOU AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR, WE
CERTAINLY SUPPORT ALL OF THESE — THIS AMENDMENT THAT’S
BEFORE US. TO MAKE A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS, UNFORTUNATELY, I
KNOW THAT THE AMENDMENT WILL NOT PASS BECAUSE IF THE CURRENT
GOVERNMENT WANTED TO ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS
AMENDMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE MADE AMENDMENTS TO EXPA WHICH IS WHAT
WE WANTED ANYHOW BECAUSE ALL AS THE LEADER OF THE NDP PARTY DID
STATE, ALL THE TARGETS AND OBJECTIVES THAT ARE LISTED IN
THIS AMENDMENT ARE ENCAPSULATED IN EXPA AND THAT WAS OUR
OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS AMENDMENT WILL
NOT PASS BECAUSE THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT EXPA.
THEY WOULD HAVE AMENDED THAT. SO WE SEE THAT. I ALSO SUPPORT
THIS AND I DO RECOGNIZE THE INCLUSION OF GREEN JOBS HERE AS
WELL AS THE ELECTRIFICATION OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PERSONAL
VEHICLES. I SPOKE IN THIS HOUSE IN THE PAST IN REGARDS TO WHERE
THE WORLD MARKET FOR AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURING ARE GOES. THEY
ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THEIR DEPENDENCY ON FOSSIL FUEL AND
GAS. I THINK IT WAS YADI I SPOKE ABOUT ONCE BEFORE THAT
THEIR WHOLE 2019 THREAT IS COMING OUT AS EV VECKS. — VEHICLES —
AUDI. NOT ONLY WILL THAT MOVE US TOWARDS USING MORE EV
VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT BY DOING THAT, MOVING
TOWARDS THAT, THAT BEING EXAMPLE OF GREEN JOBS, THAT’S GOING TO
BECOME A SIGNIFICANT PILLAR OF RENEWABLES AND GREEN JOBS AS WE
MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT OR
PARTICULARLY AROUND PRIVATE TRANSIT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED THAT’S CURRENTLY IN THE THERE,
THAT WILL BE A HUGE DRIVER TOWARDS SUPPORTING NEW GREEN
JOBS AND HELPING TO TRANSITION OUR EXISTING ECONOMY TO A
GREENER ECONOMY AND MOVING PEOPLE TOWARDS THAT WAY. SO WE
CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, AS I SAID, I KNOW
THAT NONE OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS HAVE PASSED. I KNOW
THAT THIS AMENDMENT WON’T PASS. BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT SHOWS
THAT WITH SOME TWEAKS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING EXPA
ACT, CERTAINLY THE CONSERVATIVE — PROGRESSIVE
CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS AND I WOULD SUGGEST BASED ON SOME OF THE
COMMENTS THE NDP CAUCUS PERHAPS COULD HAVE AS WELL SUPPORTED
AMENDMENTS TO EXPA. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU. The Chair: OKAY. SHALL THE
AMENDMENT CARRY? THE AMENDMENT IS TWEETED. SHALL CLAUSE 14-1
CARRY? SHALL 14.2 CARRY? SHALL
14.3 CARRY? I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DARTMOUTH NORTH.
// THANK YOU, MAD TAM CHAIR, AND I’D LIKE TO DRAW THE MEMBER’S
ATTENTION TO CWHP NDP 8. MAYBE THE LAST AMENDMENT. MAYBE NOT.
MAYBE NOT. MAYBE. AND I’D LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. PAGE
4, AD AFTER CLAUSE 14 THE FOLLOWING CLAUSE, 15, SECTION 9
OF CHAPTER 1 OF THE ACT OF 1994-95, THE ENVIRONMENT ACT, AS
AN ENACTED BY CHAPTER 61 OF THE ACT OF 2001 IS AMENDED BY ADDING
IMMEDIATELY AFTER SUB-SECTION 3 THE FOLLOWING SUB-SECTION. 3-A,
NOTWITHSTANDING SUB-SECTION 3, AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE
ROUNDTABLE MUST BE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MI’KMAW
PEOPLE. AND THEN WE WOULD RENUMBER CLAUSES 15 AND 16 AS 16
AND 17. SO, MADAM CHAIR, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD — AND IT IS A
COMPLICATED AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT BO ACTUALLY ALSO BE AN AMENDMENT
TO THE ENVIRONMENT ACT, WOULD RESERVE A SEAT FOR A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM MI’KMAW COMMUNITIES. RECOGNIZING THE
CRUCIAL EXPERTISE TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE, STEWARDSHIP AND
HISTORY OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN THE WAY FORWARD THROUGH THE
CLIMATE CRISIS . WE KNOW FOR
13,000 YEARS, MI’KMAW PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IF HARMONY WITH THE
ENVIRONMENT AND WE THEY’D TO LEARN FROM THEM AND I’D LIKE TO
QUOTE JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM THE PREAMBLE OF THE UNITED NATIONS
DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE FOR A MOMENT.
RECOGNIZING THAT PEOPLE FOR — SORRY, RECOGNIZING THAT RESPECT
FOR INDIGENOUS KNOWLEDGE, CULTURES, AND TRADITIONAL
PRACTICES CONTRIBUTES TO SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT AND PROPER MANAGEMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT,
END QUOTE. MADAM CHAIR, MI’KMAW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AT THE
FOREFRONT OF PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT. THEIR LEADERSHIP
AND EXPERTISE IS NEEDED IN THE WAY FORWARD. AND THIS AMENDMENT
WOULD ENSURE THAT THERE IS A MI’KMAW VOICE AT THE ROUNDTABLE.
THANK YOU. The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE BEAVER BANK.
// THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR, I CERTAINLY
APOLOGIZE BEFORE I DISCUSS ON THIS BECAUSE BY NO MEANS AM I
GOING TO SUGGEST THAT I CAN SPEAK MI’KMAW HERE TODAY. WE DO
SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. GIVEN SECTION NUMBER 4 AND THE
RECOGNITION OF — AND I’M SORRY, I KNOW I’M GOING TO BUTCHER IT. NETTAKEK? DOES ANYBODY HELP ME
OUT HERE? THANK YOU.. // [ Inaudible ].
// GIVEN THE RECOGNITION THAT THAT IS RECOGNIZED IN THE
CURRENT ACT THAT’S BEFORE US, THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT ACT,
I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT’S BEFORE US AS
WELL AND IT DOES HIGHLIGHT THE CONSULTATION AND ENSURE THAT A
NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED AT THAT ROUNDTABLE. SO WE WILL
SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. The Chair: OKAY. DOES THE
AMENDMENT CARRY?S AMENDMENT THE AMENDMENT
IS DEFEATED. DOES CLAUSE 15 CARRY?
// CARRY. The Chair: DOES CLAUSE 16
CARRY? // CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL THE TITLE CARRY? AND SOMEONE WANTED TO
SPEAK TO THAT. OH, SORRY. OKAY OKAY. WE’LL RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE COBEQUID.
// THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. LET ME KNOW IF I’M OFF TOPIC. THIS
IS WHERE I CAN TALK ABOUT PROCESS AND SUCH?
The Chair: YES. // OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO COMING FROM BUSINESS AND COMING FROM ANOTHER ORDER OF
GOVERNMENT, I’VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROCESS AND HOW
WE GO ABOUT DOING THINGS. BUT I DO WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY
SAYING BECAUSE THERE WAS COMMENT THAT ALAUDED TO PERHAPS A LACK
OF UNDERSTANDING OR A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AROUND ENVIRONMENTAL
MATTERS. I COME FROM AN AREA WHERE ACID RAIN FROM THE NEW
ENGLAND STATES IN THE 1960s AND 1970s INTO THE 1980s
BEFORE THE CAP AND TRADE IN THE U.S. ABE PENTICTONED GREATLY OUR
LAKES AND STREAMS, RIVERS HERE IN NOVA SCOTIA. WE WOULD KNOW
THAT AND PEOPLE STARTED TO TAKE MEASURES TO REDUCE THAT AND TO
BRING BACK THE LAKES AND THE RIVERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CAP
AND TRADE IN THE U.S. DID WORK AND IS WORKING AND HAS AFFECTED
US PRETTY GOOD. IN THE 196 ZAREs AND 1970s, LIVING
IN WALLACE HEIGHTS, SHANNON PARK AREA, THE EMISSIONS OUT OF THE
TUFT’S COVE GENERATING PLANT BEFORE SCRUBBING WOULD TAKE THE
CLADDING AND DISFIGURE THE CLADDING OF THE BUILDINGS IN
THAT AREA, AS WELL AS TAKE THE FINISHES OFF VEHICLES. AND NOVA
SCOTIA LIGHT AND POWER AT THE TIME WOULD TAKE STEPS TO
MITIGATE THAT. SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME WORK DONE IN THAT
AREA. I WAS A MEMBER OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL COUNCIL
BACK IN THE 198 ZAREs AND DIDN’T CHAIR BUT I WAS VERY
ACTIVE ON THE HALIFAX HARBOUR CLEAN-UP REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE
CONSULTED WITH STAKE HOLDERS, WITH SCIENTISTS WITH THE PUBLIC
A GREAT DEAL BEFORE WE BROUGHT THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND WHAT
WE STARTED WITH WAS CERTAINLY NOT WHERE WE ENDED UP, OTHERWISE
YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TREATMENT PLANTS FROM YORK WARD OUT AND
THE THAT WASN’T GOING TO HAPPEN. I DO REMEMBER BECAUSE WE HAVE A
BOAT GOING INTO HALIFAX HARBOUR LAUNCHING AT VARIOUS POINTS IN
HALIFAX HARBOUR AND ONE TIME I WAS ACTUALLY SLIPPING. I DID
NOT REALIZE THAT IT WAS RAW SEWAGE COMING OUT THAT I WAS
STEPPING IN. SO RECOGNIZING THAT, THERE WERE ACTIONS TAKEN
BY THE MUNICIPALITY TO CLEAN THAT SITUATION UP. ALSO CHAIRED
THE HIGHWAY 101 SACKVILLE LAND FILL CLOSE-OUT COMMITTEE. THE
DUMP. WHAT WAS ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND ABOUT THAT? SO IN
CLEANING THAT UP, THAT EVENTUALLY LED TO LEARNINGS AND
BY THE WAY, IT WAS THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT AT THE DAY THAT SAT
THAT THERE BECAUSE NOBODY COULD AGREE WHERE IT SHOULD GO. THE
LEARN, WERE GREAT. WE HAD LEECH 8. WE HAD BUSES DEPOSITED
THERE. WE HAD BIOMEDICAL WASTE PUT THERE. IT WAS IN THE A
SANITARY LANDFILL BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATIONING AND THREW
THE GOVERNMENT AND OTHERS AND THROUGH CONSULTATION, EFFORTS
WERE MADE TO LOOK AT THE THREE Rs, REDUCE, RECYCLE, REUSE.
SOME WOULD ARGUE THERE’S A FOURTH C WITH THAT’S REELECT.
SO NOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TAKE SOME ACTION HERE AND MAKE
THINGS HAPPEN. BEING ON THE HRM, WE UNDERWENT A
SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT REVIEW WHERE WE LOOKED AT BETTER
COMPOSTING, BETTER REUSE OF OUR RECYCLABLES, SOURCE SEPARATION
AND THAT WAS A VERY HOT AND HEATED PUBLIC CONSULTATION WHICH
A COLLEAGUE OF MINE, THE FORMER COUNCILLOR REG RANKIN WAS FIRST
AND FOREMOST IN THERE. WHEN WE SAW THE SACKVILLE LAND FILL
CLOSE, WE HAD TO SITE ANOTHER ONE AND BECAUSE OF THAT, OTTER
LAKE WAS THE CHOSEN LOCATION. HOWEVER, IT WASN’T WITHOUT THOSE
OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WE HAD. AGAIN, PUBLIC
CONSULTATION, KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WAS SO
IMPORTANT. EXTENDED PRODUCER
RESPONSIBILITY. SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, WHAT WE DO.
EMISSIONS FROM VEHICLES. MUNICIPALITY PUTTING IN MORE
BIKE LANES. RECYCLING IS — CYCLING HAS BECOME VOGUE LIKE IT
HAS BEEN IN EUROPE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO REDUCE CARBON
EMISSIONS. A MEMBER OF THE SACKVILLE LAKES AND WITH PARKS
ASSOCIATION, URBAN FOREST, MAKING THINGS BETWEEN. EVEN GREEN. PLANTING
TREES. CLUBBING THE AIR. MAKING OKAY JEP. THESE ARE ALL
ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS. THE REASON I BRING THIS UP, NONE OF
THESE DECISIONSES WERE AN
ISOLATED PROCESS. THEY WERE A PART OF THE PROCESS. AND THIS
IS THE PROCESS. SINCE I’VE BEEN HERE, I’VE OBSERVED A COUPLE OF
THINGS. ONE IS THAT QUALITY DOESN’T ALWAYS SEEM — PERHAPS
IT TAKES A BACK SEAT AT EXPEDIENCY RELATIVE TO
EFFICIENCY. THE COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT IF SOMEBODY
HAD BETTER INFORMATION THAN THEY WOULD BE ON SIDE. IN MY HISTORY
WHERE WE COME FROM, WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION BEFOREHAND.
THAT INFORMATION WOULD COME IN A REPORT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
RESEARCHED, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THE RESEARCH OR NOT, BUT AT
LEAST IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE SO THAT ALL PARTIES AT
THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND I’M LOOKING THE THIS AS THIS IS
WHERE WE MAKE THE LAWS. THIS IS WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE ON THE SAME
PAGE OR AT LEAST HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION TO MAKE THOSE
DECISIONS. IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS COMING FORTH,
WHAT’S BEHIND THAT? IF FROM
FIRST READING AND HERE I MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT OFF. FIRST
READING, SECOND READING, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE — SORRY,
PUBLIC ACCOUNTS IS IN THERE, TOO. LAW AMENDMENTS, SORRY.
AND THEN IT COMES BACK HERE, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND THEN
IT GOES BACK TO THE FULL LEGISLATURE. AND WE MAKE A
DECISION. THAT CAN BE, WHAT, WHAT’S THE SHORTEST TIME FRAME?
FOUR SITTINGS OF AN HOUR OR TWO? DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC INPUT? TO
MAKE A QUALITY DECISION WHERE WE ARE HERE TO MAKE LEGISLATION
THAT’S IMPACTFUL? I APPRECIATE THAT GOVERNMENT’S
JOB IS TO RUN THE PROGRESSSY. I ALSO — BUREAUCRACY. I ALSO
BELIEVE BUREAUCRACY’S JOB SEASON TO INFORM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
AND THERE, TOO, I THINK THAT IT’S INCUMBENT UPON THE
EXECUTIVE BRANCH IN THIS LEGISLATURE TO SHARE SO THAT THE
NDP HAS BROUGHT FORWARD A LOT OF INFORMATION WITHOUT THAT INPUT.
I’M VERY IMPRESSED. I’M VERY IMPRESSED. TO GO AND TO BRING
FORTH THESE AMENDMENTS WITH LITTLE INFORMATION, THAT THOSE
WHO ARE BRINGING FORWARD THE BILLS HAVE. THAT TO ME IS NOT
GOOD PROCESS. IF I AS A
LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO CAST MY VOTE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE
THE ALTERNATIVES, WHAT ARE THE RISKS, WHAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED.
I’M SURE THAT THE BUREAUCRACY TAKES TO EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OR
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT INFORMATION AND THAT YOU RELY ON
THAT TO MAKE A DECISION. WHY NOT SHARE IT? THIS IS TO BE
AVERAGE A PLACE OF SPIRITED DEBATE, TOO LOOK AT TO LOOK AT THE PROS AND
CONS OF ANY LEDGE SLAYING. HOWEVER, TO DO THAT, WHY TIE
SOMEBODY’S HANDS BEHIND THEIR BACK? WHEN I CAME HERE, I
EXPECTED TO BE QUITE HONEST TO BE GIVEN A PLAY BOOK. HERE’S
THE PLAY BOOK. HERE’S WHAT IT’S ABOUT, HERE’S WHAT’S GOING ON,
GET A REPORT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BILLS BEING INTRODUCED. GREAT.
SO HERE’S THE WORDS. I SEE THE WORDS. WHAT’S THE CONTEXT?
DON’T EVEN GET THE FULL BILL. SHOWING THE PUTS AND TAKES. HOW
IS THAT HELPING ME AS A LEGISLATOR TO MAKE AN INFORMED
DECISION IF I HAVE TO SPEND NEEDLESSLY TIME AND ENERGY TO
HAVE AND TO GET TO KNOW WHAT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE BUT NOT
SHARED. JUST A LITTLE OBSERVATION. SO
AS FAR AS THE PROCESS GOES, I WANT TO BE ON RECORD SAYING AS
AN MLA IN THIS ROOM WHERE WE MAKE DECISIONS ON LAW, WHY IS IT
I FEEL AS THOUGH I’M NOT GIVEN THE INFORMATION TO MAKE AN
INFORMED DECISION? NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT HERE NOW. MAY NOT
CHANGE IN THIS TERM OR THE NEXT. MY BACKGROUND HAS BEEN AS I
ALLUDED TO EARLIER TODAY ONE OF UNDERSTANDING AND SEEKING TO BE UNDERSTOOD. TO MAKE THINGS
EASIER RATHER THAN TOUGHER. WE TALK ABOUT BUREAUCRATIC RED
TAPE. I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD — IS THIS LEGISLATIVE RED
TAPE AND I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S INAPPROPRIATE OR NOT? BUT IS
THIS LEGISLATIVE RED TAPE? DOES
EVERY MEMBER OF THIS LEGISLATION FEEL THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION
TO MAKE A TRULY INFORMED DECISION AND HAS THERE BEEN THE
PUTS AND TAKES TO MAKE WHATEVER IS BROUGHT FORWARD BETTER OR
NOT. SO, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED
TO EXPRESS THAT. I THINK — I KNOW THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO
COME UP WITH QUALITY DECISIONS AND TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF
INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER REGARDLESS
OF POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS IN THIS HOUSE I THINK IS NOT RIGHT
WITH ME. THANK YOU. The Chair: I RECOGNIZABLE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX CHEBUCTO.
// MADAM CHAIR, WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE OF
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, I GUESS LIKE ANY PIECE OF
LEGISLATION, WE WOULD SAY THAT BY IT, THERE ARE SOME THINGS
THAT ARE GAINED ON THE ONE HAND AND THINGS THAT ARE LOST ON THE
OTHER. WE’VE ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE NDP THAT WE
THINK IT’S A GAIN AFTER A DELAY SO LONG THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
WERE BEGINNING TO WONDER IF SOMETHING OF THIS SORT WAS GOING
TO, IN FACT, GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE LEGISLATURE AT ALL. IT WILL
IS A GAIN TO HAVE LEGISLATION COME FORWARD AS A SUCCESSOR TO
THE ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY ACT.
IT DOES SEEM TO ME AND I THINK IT IS MAYBE A SUMMARY COMMENT ON
MANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT OUR PARTY HAS BROUGHT FORWARD,
HOWEVER, IT’S ALSO TRUE IN THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT GOALS
ACT THAT’S BEFORE US, THERE IS A GREAT DEAL THAT IS LOST. LOST
FIRST I THINK AND I THINK OF IT AS QUITE A CASUALTY. IS ALL
THAT GREAT ENTHUSIASM WHICH EMERGED FROM THE PASSAGE OF EXPA
IN 2007, I’M SURE THAT OTHER MEMBERS WOULD HAVE HAD THE SAME
EXPERIENCE AS ME OF BEING IN DIFFERENT POLICY-RELATED
SETTINGS AND HEARING SOMEONE WHO FOLLOWS THESE THINGS IN
DIFFERENT AREAS SAY, YOU KNOW, NOVA SCOTIA HAS UNANIMOUS,
ALL-PARTY AGREEMENT FOR ITS RENEWABLE ENERGY TARGETS AND
THEY’RE RIGHT IN THE PROVINCE’S LEGISLATION OR DID YOU KNOW IN
NOVA SCOTIA THEY’VE DEPOSIT UNANIMOUS ALL-PARTY AGREEMENT
FOR WHAT THEY DO ABOUT PROTECTING LAND AND IT’S
RIGHTING IN THEIR LEGISLATION. THIS WAS A MATTER OF PRIDE FOR
PEOPLE IN OUR PROVINCE, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WHO ARE
ATTENTIVE TO THESE MATTERS AND I THINK IT WAS A MATTER OF PRIDE
ALSO FOR EACH PARTY AS WE KNOW. EACH PARTY HAS HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GOVERN UNDER THE EXCITING, INNOVATIVE, UMBRELLA
OF THE CONCENSUSES THAT WAS BEHIND EXPA. BUT I THINK WE
HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THIS PRESENT PIECE OF LEGISLATION,
THIS EXITMENT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN FOREGONE. AND LOST.
IT WON’T BE THE CASE AGAIN UNDER THIS LEGISLATION THAT THE
LEGISLATIVE TARGETS, ALL THOSE GOALS GET DEVELOPED THROUGH
DEBATE AND PACK AND FORTH AND THREW COLLECTIVE CONSIDERATION
AND OUT OF THAT EMERGE TO A PLACE IN THE LAWS OF THE PEOPLE
OF OUR PROVINCE. RATHER, WHAT WE HAVE WILL BE A SMALLER THING.
SOMETHING LESS TO BE CELEBRATED. A SET OF REGULATIONS WHICH WILL
EMERGE FROM BEHIND THE CURTAIN OF THE CLOSED — OF THE CABINET.
SO THERE ARE CASUALTIES HERE. THERE ARE LOSSES. TRANSPARENCY
IS AS WILL. ENTHUSIASM IS A LOSS. PARTICIPANTS IS AS WILL.
PROVINCE-WIDE BUY-IN TOWARDS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL MISSION I THINK
FOR THESE REASONS IS AS WILL. WILL.ED? BUT I WANT TO SAY ALSO
THAT I ACTUALLY DON’T THINK IS THE GREATEST LOSS. I THINK THE
GREATEST LOSS IS THE LOSS OF THE GOVERNMENT’S OPPORTUNITY HERE TO
RESPOND WITH EFFECTIVENESS TO THAT CRY WHICH WAS RAISED ON THE
STREETS OF HALIFAX AND SYDNEY AND NEW GLASGOW AND ANTIGONISH
AND ELSEWHERE AROUND THE PROVINCE JUST OVER A MONTH AGO
WHERE OVER 10,000 PEOPLE MARCHED AS PART OF THAT GLOBAL CLIMATE
ACTION AND SAID IN ALL THOSE PLACES 1 POINT IF I HAVE TO STAY
ALIVE. THOSE MARCHES AND THE ACTIONS WHICH PRECEDED THEM AND
THE ACTIONS WHICH HAVE FOLLOWED THEM AND I GUESS WE SHOULD
INCLUDE IN THAT, TOO, ALL THE ENERGY OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT
WERE MADE HERE YESTERDAY AT LAW AMENDMENTS, ALL OF THIS CAN BE
BOILED DOWN TO ONE DEMAND, ONE CRY. ONE IMPERATIVE TO THE
GOVERNMENT OF THE PROVINCE. NAMELY THIS. RESPOND TO THE
CLIMATE EMERGENCY AS YOU WOULD IF THE HOUSE WERE ON FIRE
BECAUSE IT IS. THAT IS, DO NOT SIMPLY IMPROVE WHAT YOU’RE DOING
IN RESPONSE TO CLIMATE CHANGE. DON’T SIMPLY DO SOMEWHAT BETTER
THAN RELATED JURISDICTIONS IN OUR RESPONSE TO THE CALL IT
REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. RATHER, THIS. DO WHAT MUST BE
DONE TO ESTABLISH OUR PROVINCE. TO ESTABLISH NOVA SCOTIA ON A
PATHWAY CONSISTENT WITH CONTAIN CONTAINING GLOBAL WARMING WITHIN
1.5 . MANY, MANY HAVE RAISED THIS CRY.
THOSE WHO HAVE RAISED THIS CRY HAVE RECEIVED IN THIS BILL
RESPONSE WHICH HAS FAILED TO MET THE URGENCY OF THIS CLIMATE
MOMENT AND IN MY JUDGMENT, I’M SURE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT
OUGHT NOT TO HAVE BEEN LOST. THANK YOU.
The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR SACKVILLE
BEAVER BANK. // MADAM CHAIR, THE PREVIOUS
SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS GAINED AND WHAT WAS LOST IN
REGARDS TO THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION COMING BEFORE US
TODAY. MY OPINION IS IF I WAS IN A BET, I JUST LOST SO MUCH,
PLEASE THROW ME A LIFE PRESERVER BECAUSE I’M GOING DOWN. DOWN.
THIS BILL WILL RECEIVE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT IN THIS HOUSE IT. . IT WILL
PASS. THE NDP PARTY WILL PROBABLY SUPPORT IT. THE
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY WILL SUPPORT IT. I WANT TO BE
CLEAR. WE ARE NOT SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE WE FEEL
THIS IS THE BEST PIECE OF LEGISLATION IT. WAS DONE IN A
SILO WITHOUT CONSULTING OTHER PARTIES IT. WAS DONE WITHOUT
CONSULTING MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. THE CONSULTATION PROCESS IS
STARTING NOW. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE
ALREADY CONSULTED. WE SHOULD BE MOVING THIS BILL FORWARD WITH
LISTENING TO WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. WE HAVEN’T DONE THAT YET.
AND TO SAY THAT WEAR GOING TO DO THAT OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 14
MONTHS AS I SUGGESTED DURING THE SECOND READING CERTAINLY TO ME
THAT IS NOT WHAT I SEE AS AN EMERGENCY. I THINK THAT, YOU
KNOW, DURING THE LAW AMENDMENTS, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK
ONE OF THE PRESENTERS, I ASKED HER HOW OLD SHE WAS. SHE SAID
SHE WAS 15 AND I ASKED HER WHAT HER DEFINITION OF AN EMERGENCY
WAS AND SHE GAVE ME A DEFINITION THAT IS TO ME AN EMERGENCY. IT
SHOWS URGENCY, IMPORTANCE, PRIORITY, IT SHOWS DOING IT NOW.
THE HOUSES IS ON FIRE, THERE’S AN EMERGENCY, I’M OUT OF HERE.
I MADE IT TO GO. I NEED TO ACT NOW. AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT’S
IN THE WHAT’S HAPPENED. THIS PASSING TODAY DOES NOT — DURING
THIRD READING TOMORROW, I’LL SAY THE EXACT SAME THING, DOES NOT
MOVE US FORWARD TOMORROW. THERE’S NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES
THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN THE DAY AFTER THIS BILL IS PASSED
BECAUSE IT’S THE COMMITMENT OF 12 TO 14 MONTHS WORTH OF
CONSULTATION THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.
DON’T LET THE GOVERNMENT PRETEND AT THAT THEY CARE, THAT THERE IS
A CLAIM THE EMERGENCY. THEY CALL AN EMERGENCY AND WE HAVE A
DID HE BAIT AND THE THEN WE GO THROUGH AND WHERE WE ARE HERE.
I SAID ON SECOND READING, THIS DEPARTMENT HAS SHUFFLED YOU THIS
FOUR MINISTERS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND I RESPECT ALL FOUR OF
THOSE PEOPLE. BUT I DON’T RESPECT THAT THIS FILE HAS NOT
MOVED FORWARD. WE ARE GOING. WE HAVE TO SUPPORT IT. BECAUSE
WE ARE BEING STRONG-ARMED FROM — MY PAST EXPERIENCE
INCOME THIS HUGHES IS IF WE STAND UP AND WE SUGGEST THINGS
TO MAKE A BETTER BILL FOR THE RESIDENTS OF NOVA SCOTIA, IF WE
STAND UP AS AN OOP OPPOSITION PARTY
AND BRING FORWARD ANY AMENDMENTS OR ANY SUGGESTIONS, THEY GET
SHOT DOWN AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY GRANDFATHER, I QUOTE HIM A LOT
HERE USED TO TELL ME, A STOPPED CLOCK IS RIGHT TWICE A DAY. SO
EVEN IF WE’RE OPPOSITION, AT LEAST WE GET READY TO BE RIGHT
TWICE. BUT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD HERE TODAY,
I’M SO FRUSTRATED, MAD TAM SPEAKER. THEY WOULD HAVE
MADE — OR MADAM CHAIR, THEY WOULD HAVE MADE BETTER
LEGISLATION. THEY WOULD HAVE MADE STRONGER LEGISLATION, BUT
OBVIOUSLY THIS GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT THAT.
/// I’LL SUPPORT THIS WHEN IT AM COULDS. NOT BECAUSE IT’S THE
BEST, NOT BECAUSE IT’S STRONG, NOT BECAUSE I THINK IT’S GREAT.
I WILL SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I DON’T WANT ANYONE SAYING BRIAN
JOHNS DIDN’T SUPPORT ENVIRONMENT. BUT I DO SUPPORT
ENVIRONMENT. I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CHANGES AND ADDRESS
GLOBAL ISSUES OF GREENHOUSE GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT IT
WON’T MATTER BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL STAND UP ACROSS THE FLOOR
AND SAY YOU DIDN’T SUPPORT THE ENVIRONMENT. NOT BECAUSE I
THINK IT’S GREAT, BUT THAT’S WHY I WILL SUPPORT IT. WITH THAT,
MADAM CHAIR, THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. The Chair: SHALL THE TITLE
CARRY? // CARRY.
The Chair: SHALL THE BILL CARRY SENATOR CARRY.
The Chair: THE BILL IS CARRIED. — SHALL THE BILL
CARRY? // CARRY.
The Chair: THE BILL IS CARRIED. The Chair: SO I RECOGNIZE….
OKAY. WE GOT TAD OUR FINISH. WE HAVE TO FINISH AND THEN CAN
YOU TALK? WE RECESS FOR A BIT, RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. — [ NO
AUDIO ] The Chair: I RECOGNIZE THE
HONOURABLE MEMBER GOVERNMENT HOUSE LEADER.
// THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DO NOW RISE TO REPORT THE BILLS.
The Chair: THE MOTION IS CARRIED. THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW
RISE AND REPORT ITS BUSINESS TO THE HOUSE. The Speaker: ORDER, PLEASE A.
// THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HAS MET AND CONSIDERED THE
FOLLOWING BILLS. BILL NUMBER 183, 1 ANYONE 5, 204, 213
WITHOUT AMENDMENTS AND BILL 180 WITH CERTAIN AMENDMENTS. AND
THE CHAIRMAN HAS BEEN INSTRUCT TO DO RECOMMEND THESE BILLS TO
THE FAVOURABLE CONSIDERATION OF THE HOUSE.
The Speaker: ORDER THAT THESE BILLS BE READ A THIRD TIME ON A
FUTURE DAY. THE HONOURABLE MEMBER GOVERNMENT HOUSE LEADER?
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL PUBLIC
BILLS FOR THIRD READING. Mr. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU CALL
BILL NUMBER 152 THE PLASTIC BAGS REDUCTION ACT.
The Speaker: WILL NOW CALL BILL 152 THE PLASTIC BAGS
REDUCTION. AND WE WILL GO BACK TO THE HONOURABLE LEADER OF THE
NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY WITH 58 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE WE WERE SO
RUDELY INTERRUPTED LAST NIGHT. // REALLY, TO SPEAK PRECISELY,
THE VERY LAST THING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE WE LOST THE
POWER LAST NIGHT IS THAT THE MINISTER OF HEALTH APPLAUDED
SOMETHING THAT I SAID. SO I’M GOING TO — WE’RE GOING TO ASK
THE MEMBER FROM ANTIGONISH TO MAINTAIN HIS COOL AND RESTRAIN
HIS ENTHUSIASM THIS EVENING WHILE I TRY TO GET THROUGH A FEW
WORLDS ABOUT THE PLASTIC BAG ACT.
/// I WANT TO JUST BACK UP A HALF AN INCH TO WHERE I BEGAN TO
SAY THAT WE DO THINK THAT THIS IS A WELCOME PIECE OF
LEGISLATION AND WE BEGIN WITH THAT THOUGHT WITH THE WHOLE
COMPLEX OF THINGS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT THAT ARE SO CLEARLY AS
BACKGROUND KNOWN. SO WE KNOW THAT MARINE POLLUTION HAS
INCREASED TEN FOLD SINCE 1980. WE KNOW THAT 80% OF ALL MARINE
DEBRIS IS COMPOSED OF PLASTICS. WE KNOW FROM THE U.N. REPORT ON
THIS SUBJECT EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT MARINE PLASTIC PLUGS IS
DIRECTLY AFFECTING TODAY 267 SPECIES. WE KNOW THAT THAT
INCLUDES 44% OF SEA BIRDS, 4 THEY% OF MARINE ANIMALS, AND WE
KNOW THAT IN A PROVINCE THAT IS AS DEFINED BY THE OCEAN AS NOVA
SCOTIA IS, WHERE THE HEALTH OF THE OCEAN IS SUCH A
DETERMINATIVE THING ABOUT OUR PROSPECTS, BOTH PRESENT AND
FUTURE, WE KNOW, THEN, THAT A BAN ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS
IS SOMETHING THAT AMOUNTS TO COMMON SENSE. I SAID LAST NIGHT
AND I WANT IT SAY AGAIN. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS TOWARDS
WHICH WE CAN JUST TURN AND SAY IT’S TIME. THAT WE HAVE SEEN
THIS DECISION MADE IN THE RANGE OF EAR JURISDICTIONS, VICTORIA
OUT WEST BEING OUR OWN NEIGHBOURS ON P.E.I. AND IT’S
TIME FOR US TO MAKE THIS SAME DECISION HERE IN NOVA SCOTIA.
AND IN MAKING IT, IT’S PERHAPS A FITTING MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THE MANY ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR PROVINCE WHO OVER QUITE A NUMBER
OF INJURIES HAVE BEEN WORKING TO BRING ABOUT THIS DECISION.
SPEAK ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION LIKE PLASTICS FREE LUNENBURG, FOR
EXAMPLE, OR PLASTICS-FREE St. MARGARET’S BAY THEY AND CLEAN
NOVA SCOTIA WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AND
CONSUMERS TO CUT DOWN ON THE USE OF SINGLE-USE PLASTICS AND HAVE
MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF PLASTIC THAT ENDS
UP IN OUR PROVINCE’S OCEAN AND ALSO IN OUR LANDFILLS.
CERTAINLY IT’S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THE EFFECTIVE ADVOCACY
AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN THIS RESPECT OF THE ECOLOGY ACTION
CENTRE AND HOW INSTRUMENTAL THAT HAS BEEN IN BEGINNING TO CURB
THE USE AND THEREFORE THE DISPOSAL OF THOSE 3 TO
500 MILLION PLASTIC GROCERY BAGS THAT ARE PART OF THE PICTURE
HERE FOR US EVERY YEAR IN NOVA SCOTIA.
AND CERTAINLY THERE’S A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIT SHOULD BE
REFLECTED ALSO ON THE MUNICIPALITIES OF OUR PROVINCE,
THE HALIFAX REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY HAVE WORKED
EXTENSIVELY ON THIS ISSUE. RESEARCHING AND WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE PROVINCE
TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THIS PROBLEM. TORONTO MAPLE LEAF
BEEN RIGHT TO POINT OUT THAT PLASTIC WASTE MANAGEMENT
REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT COST TO MUNICIPALITIES AND THAT
PROVINCIAL LEADERSHIP ON THIS SUBJECT IS SOMETHING THAT’S
CALLED FOR….. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE NOVA SCOTIA FEDERATION OF
MUNICIPALITIES IN SETTING OUT THIS ISSUE AS ONE OF THEIR CORE
PRIORITY AREAS FOR THE ORGANIZATION AND FOR THE
ADVOCACY WORK THAT THEY’VE DONE FOR A RESPONSIBILITY PROGRAM. I’M ALSO HAPPY TO POINT OUT THIS
PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS IN LINE BY LEGISLATION
BROUGHT BY OUR OWN PARTY CALLED THE PLASTIC BAG REDUCTION ACT
WHICH WE BROUGHT FORWARD HERE AND INTRODUCED EARLIER THIS
YEAR. IT IS TRUE THAT THE BILL WE BROUGHT FORWARD GOES FARTHER
THAN THE CURRENT LEGISLATION IN A COUPLE OF AREAS A. ONE OF
THOSE AREAS IS THAT IT PROVIDED FOR AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AROUND
PLASTIC BAGS AND IT PROVIDES ALSO FOR THE ABILITY TO PHASE
THE BAN IN DIFFERENTIALLY FOR RETAILERS OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND
IT PROVIDES TWO FOR THE PROMOTION OF LOCALLY PRODUCED
ALTERNATIVES TO PLASTIC BAGS. BUT IN SAYING THAT, IT’S NOT TO
TAKE AWAY IN ANY WAY FROM THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LEGISLATION
THAT’S BEFORE US. WE ALSO THINK IT’S WORTH NOTING IN A POSITIVE
AND COMMENDING WAY THAT THIS PRESENT LEGISLATION PROVIDES EXEMPTIONS FOR CHARITIES AND
OTHERS. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR ALL
OF US WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE SINGLE-USE USE PLASTIC BAG BAN.
IT’S IMPORTANT TO NOT GET CARRIED AWAY AND OVERSTATE THE
CASE. WE KNOW THAT PLASTIC BAGS ARE ONLY A% OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
THREATS THAT ARE — ARE ONLY A PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
THREATS THAT ARE BEING EXPERIENCED BY OUR OCEANS. ALL
OF THE WARMING-RELATED DANGER THAT ARE POSED BY MELTING SEA
ICE AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AND IT’S ALSO TRUE THAT WE WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PROMPT OF A SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAG BAN
DEPENDS ULTIMATELY ON THERE BEING AN EXTENDED PRODUCER
RESPONSIBILITY PROGRAM AND ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A THOROUGH
AND COMPREHENSIVE REGULATIONS, PARTICULARLY ON THE REGULATION
OF OTHER TYPES OF SINGLE-USE PLASTICS. I WOULD ALSO REMIND
THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE WILL NEED ROBUST PUBLIC EDUCATION ON THE
PARTY SO THAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH THIS CHANGE
WITH THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN THEIR
PRACTICES AND IN THEIR LIVES AWAY FROM SINGLE-USE PLASTIC
PRODUCTS. THE REGULATIONS SHOULD AS QUICKLY AS IS POSSIBLE
CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PHASING-OUT OF
OTHER SINGLE-USE PLASTICS. REGULATIONS ALSO WILL NEED TO
INCLUDE A SCHEDULE FOR MINIMUM FEES FOR PLASTIC BAG
ALTERNATIVES TO ENSURE THAT WE DON’T END UP MAKING IN THE
AFTERMATH OF THIS BILL A WHOLESALE SWITCH TO PAPER OR
HEAVIER TYPES OF PLASTIC,ER IN THE OF WHICH WOULD HAVE A MORE
BENEFICIAL IMPACT. THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT ACTUALLY EMERGED IN
THE U.K. AFTER PLASTICKING AS WERE BANED THERE AND RETAILERS
SWITCHED TO FREE REUSABLE BAGS THAT WERE ALSO MADE OF PLASTIC
AND ABOUT A BILLION OF THEM ENDED UP IN LANDFILLS SO WE CAN
LEARN FROM THE PRACTICES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS. AND AT THE
TIME THIS BILL WAS AT THE LAW AMENDMENTS COMMITTEE, WE
LEARNED, TOO, AT THAT MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS LUNENBURG
ARE LOOKING TO THE PROVINCE TO CONFIRM THAT THIS LEGISLATION
ISN’T IN ANY WAY GOING TO TIE THAIN THEIR HANDS TO LIMIT THE USE OF
SINGLE-USE PLASTICS AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT IN OUR
VIEW THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO CLARIFY FOR THEM.
/// FURTHER, IT’S TRUE A GREAT DEAL WILL DEPEND ON THE DETAILS
OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS IN ITS OWN PLASTIC
LEGISLATION. BUT NEVERTHELESS, ALL OF THAT
CONSIDERED, IT IS A PRETTY COMMONLY HEARD PART OF COMMON
SENSE IN NOVA SCOTIA TO SAY YOU’VE GOT IT START SOMEWHERE
AND WE IN THE NDP ACKNOWLEDGE THIS LEGISLATION AS A SOUND AND
SPORTABLE PLACE TO START. SO THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER HOUSE LEADER FOR THE
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. // Mr. SPEAKER, I WON’T SPEAK
AT LENGTH TONIGHT BUT I WANT TO TELL BUT A TRIP I MADE TO SOUTH
CAROLINA A FEW MONTHS BACK AND I WAS NOTICING ALL THE PAPER BAGS.
MANY TIMES WE WOULD GO TO THE GROCERY STORE TO GET FAD TO
PREPARE MEALS AND SO, Mr. SPEAKER, I KNOW THAT IN SOUTH
CAROLINA, MY COLLEAGUE JUST SPOKE ABOUT LEARNING FROM OTHER
JURISDICTIONS. MANY OF THE COUNTIES ALONG THE POST HAVE
BANNED PLASTIC BAGS BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPACTING WILDLIFE ON THE
COASTS AND WHETHER IT’S SEA TURTLES, WHAT HAVE YOU. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT STRUCK ME IS GETTING RID OF PLASTIC BAGS
IS ONE THING BUT IF THEY’RE ONLY GOING TO BE REPLACED BY PAPER
BAGS THAT, OF COURSE, CONSUME RESOURCE, CREATE POLLUTION, IS A
DIFFERENCE BEING MADE AND WHEN WE SIT HERE, Mr. SPEAKER, I
THINK WE HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT PASSING BILLS THAT ARE
EFFECTIVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. SO THAT’S SOMETHING I’M THINKING
ABOUT. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE MOVING TOWARDS
REUSABLE BAGS. AND I DON’T THINK IT’S SO DIFFICULT. IT IS
A CULTURAL CHANGE. I KNOW IN MY OWN CASE, Mr. SPEAKER, I
REMEMBER SHOPPING IN HALIFAX HERE AND ONE OF THE STORES HAD
GOTTEN AWAY FROM PLASTIC BAGS AND I REMEMBER FINDING IT TO BE
QUITE IRRITATING WHEN I WOULD SHOP. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AT ONE
POINT IN TIME. I’VE SINCE REALIZED IT’S NOT SUCH A BIG
DEAL. AND I KNOW THERE’S OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD AND MY
WIFE WAS BORN IN PRAGUE AND THEY HAVE IN THEIR EXPERIENCE THERE,
THEY USE LITTLE BAGS CALLED. [Speaking Alternate Language]
AND THEY ARE BASICALLY MADE OUT OF MESH AND YOU CAN COMPACT THEM
INTO A VERY SMALL PIECE OF MATERIAL THAT WOULD GO INTO A
PURSE OR OTHER TYPE OF HANDBAG. PERHAPS A BRIEFCASE OR SOMETHING
FOR SOME OF US HERE. BUT, Mr. SPEAKER, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT’S
NO BIG DEAL. IT’S PART OF THE CULTURE. AND EVERYTHING THAT’S
ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS BILL MADE ITS TO BE ABOUT WHICH IS
CHANGING THE CULTURE HERE OR HELPING TO LEAD THE CULTURE HERE
TOWARDS A CHANGE WHERE PEOPLE USE REUSABLE BAGS. AND, YOU
KNOW, IF WE CAN’T ALL GET BY SOMETHING OR COME TO AGREEMENT
ON THAT, OR AS A SOCIETY BE ABLE TO MOVE IN SUCH A SMALL WAY
TOWARDS REUSABLE BAGS IT, LEFTS ME QUESTIONS HOW ARE WE GOING TO
GET ALL THE OTHER THINGS DONE THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THE
ENVIRONMENT. SO I WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE I TAKE MY PLACE, Mr.
SPEAKER, ABOUT CONSUMPTION AND I BELIEVE IT’S NOT JUST OUR
CONSUMPTION BUT OUR UNNECESSARY CONSUMPTION WE MUST THINK ABOUT. DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE BUYING
ALL THE THICK WE’RE BUYING. I KNOW THAT STATEMENT MAY NOT BE
GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY BUT IT MAY BE LESS HARMFUL THAN FIRST
THOUGHT WHEN CONSIDERING WE CAN BUY LOCAL, WE CAN BUY QUALITY,
WE CAN BUY ONLY WHAT IS NEEDED AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT.
WE MUST CHANGE OUR CULTURE OF DISPOSABLE CONSUMPTION. IT IS
WASTEFUL AND UNNECESSARY AND IT MAY BE MAKING MONEY FOR SOMEBODY
BUT IT’S PROBABLY FAR AWAY FROM WHERE WE LIVE HERE IF CANADA,
Mr. SPEAKER. BUT A LOT OF
THESE THINGS WE ARE BUYING, IN SOME CASES, THEY’RE ADDING VERY
LITTLE TOLL OUR LIVES AND IT BECOMES A WASTE OF OUR TIME TO
BE BUYING THINGS. I’M SURE WE CAN ALL THINK OF THINGS THAT
WE’VE PURCHASED THAT WE’RE NOT USING, THAT WE LET GO TO WASTE,
THAT WE’VE FORGOTTEN OUT. AND SOMETIMES WE EVEN PURCHASED IT
AGAIN BECAUSE WE FORGOT WE HAD IT.
SO, Mr. SPEAKER, I WOULD SAY THOSE THINGS ARE ADDING VERY
LITTLE VALUE TOLL OUR LIVES AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ASSOCIATE
THEIR HAPPINESS WITH THINGS THEY BUY. AND I THINK, Mr.
SPEAKER, MANY OF THOSE THINGS AROUND REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR
OUR TRUE HAPPINESS. IT WE LACK AT THE MARKETING THAT’S OUT
THERE, I REMEMBER ONE DAY SOMEBODY SAID TO ME, ALAN, ALL
MARKETING IS DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT YOURSELF. OR
SOMETHING YOU DON’T HAVE. AND EVER SINCE THEN, I THOUGHT YOU
KNOW WHAT? HE WAS RIGHT ON BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL
ABOUT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED IT TREMENDOUS OURSELVES FROM
THIS CULTURE OF DISPOSABLE CONSUMPTION. AUTHORIZE AND I
THINK THAT WE CAN START, Mr. SPEAKER, BY CONSIDERING THE BAGS
THAT WE’RE CARRYING THAT CONSUMPTION IN. THANK YOU. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBERRABLE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT TO CLOSE THIRD
READING. THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR KINGS NORTH.
// Mr. SPEAKER, I BELIEVE THERE IS A FEW OF WHITE HOUSE
MIGHT WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON THIS BILL. I GUESS I DON’T WANT
TO SAY A WHOLE LOT EXCEPT TO SAY THAT I WAS VERY INTERESTED WHEN
I WAS IN LAW AMENDMENTS AND I KNOW THERE WAS A NUMBER OF
PRESENTERS ON THIS BILL. BANNING
PLASTIC BAGS AND THERE WAS A THEME NOTABLE FOR US TO THINK
ABOUT. AND ONE — THAT THEME WAS THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS
RECOMMEND THERE BE A FEE ON THE PAPER BAGS OR THE REPLACEMENT
BAG. AND THATS ECOLOGY ACTION CENTRE, THE LUNENBURG PLASTIC
PLASTIC-FREE — PLASTIC-FREE LUNENBURG AND ALSO, ACTUALLY,
THE PRESENTER WHO WAS REPRESENTING THE CANADIAN
PLASTICS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. SO THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS
RECOMMENDED THAT WHATEVER WAS USED TO REPLACE PLASTIC
CHECK-OUT BAGS, THAT THERE BE A FEE PATCHED TO IT. AND ALL
THREE GROUPS REALLY WERE CITING THE SAME REASONS AND IT’S
BECAUSE OF ANOTHER ISSUE WHICH IS CALLED HUMAN NATURE.
EVEN IN 2019, PEOPLE THROW TRASH
OUT ON THE ROAD. THERE’S REGULARLY ON MY DRIVE TO THE
COTTAGE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD GOING UP THE ROAD, PEOPLE
THROW THEIR GARBAGE OUT. AND PEOPLE, HUMAN NATURE TO REACT IN
A CERTAIN WAY AND HOW THAT APPLIES TO THIS BAG BAN IS
WITHOUT SUFFICIENT FEES IN THE U.K., THEY FOUND THAT PEOPLE
WOULD JUST USE A HEAVIER PLASTIC BAG WHICH WAS MEANT TO BE REUSED
AND THERE WAS OVER ONE BILLION OF THESE MORE HEAVIER PLASTIC
BAGS DISTRIBUTED EVERY YEAR AND THROWN OUT AFTER ONE USE. SO
UNLESS PEOPLE PAY FOR SOMETHING, THEY DON’T VALUE IT. SO IF THEY
RECEIVE A PLASTIC BAG, WHETHER IT’S A THIN CHECK-OUT BAG OR A
HEAVIER BAG, IF THEY DON’T HAVE ANY VALUE ATTACHED TO THAT
REPLACEMENT BAG, THEY WILL THROW IT OUT. SO LIKEWISE WITH PAPER
BAGS, WHAT WE WERE TOLD AT LAW AMENDMENTS WAS IN ORDER TO GAIN
ANY ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT, A PAPER BAG HAD TO BE USED AT
LEAST FOUR TIMES BEFORE IT WAS THROWN OUT. IN OTHER WORDS, A
PAPER BAG HAD FOUR TIMES THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
THAT BE A THIN CHECK-OUT PLASTIC BAG. AND IT’S A LITTLE BIT HARD
FOR ME TO FATHOM THAT, BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT, I THINK
ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF FOSSIL FUELS THAT GO INTO CUTTING A TREE
DOWN, TRANSPORTING IT TO A SAWMILL, A WOOD MILL, A PAPER
MILL, AND CONVERTING THAT TO A PAPER BAG AND THE AMOUNT OF
FOSSIL FUEL INVOLVED IN TRUCKING THAT PAPER BAG TO THE CHECK-OUT
STORE AND ALL OF THAT, SORT OF THE LIFE CYCLE FOSSIL FUEL
IMPACTS ON THAT THAT PAPER BAG HAS AND IN ORDER FOR IT TO HAVE
THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT A SINGLE PLASTIC BAG HAS,
YOU’D HAVE TO USE THAT PAPER BAG ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 28 TIMES WE
WERE TOLD. LIKEWISE, THE BIG HEAVY PLASTIC BAGS THAT WE GET,
YOU HAVE IT USE THAT UP TO 50 TIMES TO ACHIEVE THE
ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD FROM THE IMPACT
OF ONE SMALL PLASTIC BAG. WHAT THESE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS
WERE SAYING WAS THAT THERE SHOULD BE A FEE ATTACHED TO THE
REPLACEMENT BAG SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HUMAN NATURE. THAT PEOPLE
DON’T VALUE THINGS THEY DON’T PAY FOR. AND IF YOU PAY FOR IT,
YOU’LL TEND TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND REUSE IT.
SO I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT WILL IS THIS ISSUE
OF WHAT IS THE TRUE COST OF THE ALTERNATIVES. AND THE TRUE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. AND I DON’T FEEL — WITH WE ARE
SUPPORTING THIS BILL, BUT I DON’T FEEL THAT THAT IS REALLY
BEEN LOOKED AT AND I THINK THE — IT WOULD BEHOOVE THE
GOVERNMENT IT TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TRY TO DO SOME
INVESTIGATION ON WHAT IS A TRUE LIFE CYCLE COST OF THESE
PLASTICS AND HOW DID WE DO A BETTER JOB AND I KNOW THAT THE
GUY FROM THE PLASTIC INDUSTRY WHO PRESENTED SAID THAT HE
BELIEVED THAT HIS INDUSTRY WOULD ACTUALLY PRODUCE AND SELL MORE
PLASTIC IN NOVA SCOTIA BECAUSE OF THIS BAN THAN IT WOULD HAVE
OTHERWISE BECAUSE THE REPLACEMENT BAGS WILL GET USED
UP AND NOW WITHOUT A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPLACEMENT
BAG, THAT HE BELIEVED THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, THE LUNENBURG
PLASTIC-FREE SAID THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE U.K. AND
THEY BELIEVE THERE NEEDED TO BE A BAN, A DINS INCENTIVE BUILD OR
OR AN INCENTIVE TO KEEP OR MANE CONTAIN AT THAT PLASTIC BAG.
AND IN FACT, ECOLOGY ACTION CENTRE SAID THE SAME THING. SO
THREE VERY DIFFERENT GROUPS SAY IN TELLING US THE SAME THING.
SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE RIGHT ANSWER AND PART OF THAT
ANSWER MAY BE AND I REALIZE WE’RE GOING TO PASS THIS BILL
TONIGHT, BUT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TAME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
ARE THE LIFE CYCLE IMPACTS AND I THINK WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB
WORKING WITH THE PLASTIC INDUSTRY ON THAT. AND ALSO
CONCERNS VERY MUCH MIRRORED BY THE ECOLOGY ACTION CENTRE.
SO WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO DO? AND, YOU KNOW, AND, IN
FACT, TO QUOTE THE JOE HARUSKA AT THE CANADIAN PLASTICS
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION FROM LAW AMENDMENTS HE SAID IN HIS
OPINION, THE BILL WAS VIRTUE SIGNALING AND I WAS THINKING
ABOUT THAT TERM AND, IN FACT, I DO BELIEVE IF THERE IS VIRTUE TO
BE SIGNALED, IT’S WORTHWHILE SIGNALING IT. SO IT’S NOT
ALWAYS A BAD THING BUT IF, IN FACT, THE BILL IS ACTUALLY
NEGATIVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, THEN THAT’S PROBABLY IN THE A
GOOD THING TO BE SIGNALING VIRTUE WHEN YOU’RE PUTTING OUT A
BILL THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE OPPOSITE EFFECT THAT IS INTENDED
AND I KNOW THAT IN MY MANY INJURIES OF FARMING, I HAD A
RULE UNTIL MY HEAD AND THAT WAS THE RULE OF UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. AND ANY CHANGE WE MAKE ANYWHERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO
HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND I CAME TO REALIZE THAT SOMETIMES
THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WERE POSITIVE, TOO. WE TEND TO
LOOK AT THE NEGATIVE A LOT AND SAY, OKAY, BECAUSE I DID THIS,
WE DID THIS CHANGE THIS CHANGE. BUT SOMETIMES THERE’S POSITIVE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, TOO. SO IT’S NOT ALWAYS BAD. BUT
WE’VE BEEN WARNED ABOUT BE A UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE BECAUSE
OF HUMAN NATURE, ABOUT THIS BILL. AND I THINK IT WOULD
BEHOOVE THE GOVERNMENT IT TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ONCE THIS
BILL PASSES TRY TO LACK AT WHAT IS THE TRUE COST HERE. WHAT IS
REALLY HAPPENING TO — IN OUR PROVINCE WITH, YOU KNOW, HUMAN
NATURE AS IT IS. I MEAN, WE KNOW PEOPLE STILL THROW GROW
GARBAGE OUT AND — OUT THE WINDOW OF THE CAR. AND
UNFORTUNATELY IT’S STILL GOING ON. I’D LIKE TO SEE IT COME IT
A STOP. AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL SOME DAY. BUT, ANYWAY, I WANTED
TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT I THINK THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO CONSIDER
ITS ACTIONS ON THIS BILL. IT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN ONE
SENSE. IN ANOTHER SENSE, I THINK WE’VE BEEN WARNED ABOUT
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT
WARNING SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR MEMBER HALIFAX NEEDHAM?
// THANK YOU. I WASN’T GOING TO SPEAK BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
EVERYONE IN THIS CHAMBER IS TIRED. BUT IF THERE’S A
LINE-UP, I’LL GET IN IT I GUESS. BRIEFLY AND SAY THAT I THINK
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF PLASTIC
THAT WE’RE USING AND THAT WE’RE GENERAL
GENERATING BUT ONE OF THE WAYS THAT IS MAYBE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE
OF THIS LEGISLATION BUT IT’S CERTAINLY NOT OUTSIDE THE SCOPE
OF THIS GOVERNMENT IS TO ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE MORE LOCAL
FOOD CONSUMPTION. I NOTICE IF MY OWN LIFE WHEN WE WERE
ORGANIZED AND WE ARE EATING THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO EAT AND
SUPPORTING THE LOCAL FARMERS WHO WE HAVE HAD RELATIONSHIPS WITH
FOR MANY YEARS, WE ACTUALLY GENERATE VERY LITTLE WASTE IN
ACQUIRING OUR FOOD. THAT’S BECAUSE YOU CAN GO TO A MARKET
AND PRETTY MUCH STUFF ISN’T PANELED AT ALL. FOR YEARS, MY
PARTNER AND I HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST, THE LONG AND LUCKY LIST OF
CONSUMERS WHO GET VEGETABLES FROM TED HUTTON IN THE VALLEY
AND LIKE MANY OTHER CONSUMER-SUPPORTED AGRICULTURE
OPERATIONS, IT COMES EVERY WEEK IN A REUSABLE TOTE. THERE ARE
STILL SOME SMALL PLASTIC BAGS THAT HAVE FRESH GREENS IN THEM,
UNDERSTANDABLY BECAUSE THEY WILT. I WOULD LOVE IF SOMEBODY
COULD COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR WILTING GREENS. THAT WOULD
BE GREAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I’VE BEEN — WE HAVE BEEN RETURNING
BITCHES FOR EIGHT YEARS TO TED HUTTON. — BUT WE’VE BEEN
RETURNING BINS FOR EIGHT YEARS TO TED HUTTON. AND WHEN WE’RE
ORGANIZED AND NOT SO CRAZY-BUSY AND GET DOWN TO THE SEA PORT
MARKET ON SATURDAY MORNINGS AND GET OUR FAVORITE MEAT FROM VANCE
AT WINDY VIEW FARMS, IT COMES IN BUTCHER PAPER AND GOES IN THE
COMPOST AFTERWARDS. AND THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE PRIVILEGE. IT’S
AN INCREDIBLE PRIVILEGE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE THE INCOME TO
BE ABLE TO SPEND AND BUY THAT KIND OF QUALITY LOCAL FAD AND I
WISH THAT ACROSS NOVA SCOTIA AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GOALS THAT
HAS DISAPPEARED FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND
SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY ACT, WE WHY LOOKING AT HOW WE COULD OPEN
UP THAT POSSIBILITY FOR MANY, MANY MORE PEOPLE AND PART OF
THAT IS ABOUT WAGES AND LESS PRECARIOUS EMPLOYMENT SO THAT
PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO ENJOY AND THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
HOW THEY’RE GOING TO SHOP AND HAVE THE TIME TO PREPARE FOOD
FROM SCRATCH. BUT I THINK THERE
ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO WORK ON THIS PROBLEM AND BANNING MASS
PARTICULAR BAGS IS CERTAINLY ONLY ONE OF THEM. AND I SAY
THAT SO LODGE LONG AS WE’RE NOT REALLY
PRIORITIZE ASKING SUPPORTING NOVA SCOTIANS TO SUPPORT LOCAL
FARMERS, AND SO LONG AS THEY’RE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SHOPPING IN
THE LARGER CHAINS, WELL, YOU CAN GET FOOD THERE THAT HAS DEPOSIT
MORE PLASTIC FOR ONE ITEM THAN YOU GET IN THE CHECK-OUT IN THE
GROCERY BAG AT THE END. AND SOMETIMES MAY PARTNER BRINGS
THOSE ONES HOME, THE ONES, YOU KNOW, ON A STYROFOAM TRAY
WRAPPED IN SHRINK WRAPPED IN PLASTIC WITHIN AN CHIN OF ITS
LIFE. ANYHOW, SO I WELCOME THIS AND I
HOPE WE DO MORE AND I HOPE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT DOING MORE
ACTUALLY CAN’T JUST RELY ON INDIVIDUALS. ONE OF THE GREAT
COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE AT LAW AMENDMENTS YESTERDAY WAS FROM
ONE OF THE YOUNG CLIMATE ACTIVISTS WHO SAID — I ASKED
HER WHAT A SUSTAINABLE PROSPERITY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND
SHE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE DONE ITS
JOB IN ALL THE CHOICESES THAT WERE AVAILABLE WOULD BE GOOD
ONES. YOU KNOW, YOU’D BE GETTING TO MAKE CHOICES BETWEEN
VARIOUS GOOD OPTIONS AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PERTAINS
TO THIS BILL AS WELL. THANK YOU.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR COAL HARBOUR EVEN
PASSAGE. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER.
WHEN I WAS IN GRADE 9, MY GEOGRAPHY PROFESSOR TOLD ME BY
THE TIME I WAS IN MY 40s THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE
WEATHER OF FLORIDA AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE PALM TREES SO I
WAS EXCITED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. BUT IF YOU TURN ON CNN
RIGHT NOW OR GOOGLE CALIFORNIA WILD FIRES, YOU’LL SEE THAT WHAT
HE PREDICTED WAS NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR. AND
WHY IT’S RELEVANT TO ME, Mr. SPEAKER, IS THAT MY SON
CHRISTOPHER LIVES IN PASADENA, CALIFORNIA, AND EVERY TIME
THERE’S A NEW FIRE THAT LIGHTS UP THERE, I GOOGLE MAP IT TO SEE
HOW CLOSE HE IS. AND FRANKLY RIGHT AT THE MOMENT, HE’S HOME
AND I THANK GOD FOR THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, HE WOULD BE ABOUT 20
MINUTES AWAY FROM WHERE THE DEVASTATION IS GOING ON. SO I
KNOW PEOPLE DON’T LIKE THE WORLD HEALTH CRISIS OR ENVIRONMENTAL
EMERGENCY, BUT HE’S LIVING SURROUNDED BY THAT VERY
SITUATION. WHEN I WAS 10 YEARS OLD, WE WERE
ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO HAVE COMPOSTING IN THE BACKYARD AND
MY FRIENDS THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE CRAZY AND THEN WHEN WE
WERE 20, I REMEMBER GETTING SEATBELTS AND I HATED THEM
BECAUSE THEY WRINKLED MAY DRESS AND, OF COURSE, THAT SEEMS SILLY
NOW. THEN WHEN I WAS IN MY 30s, 650 OF US GOT SICK FROM
THE ENVIRONMENT INSIDE A BUILDING AND IT WAS ONE OF THE
WORST DISASTER ISES IN OCCUPATIONAL HISTORY. AND I
WATCHED A MOVEMENT GO ON TO GET OUR FIRST ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
CENTRE AND TO GET THE PROVINCE TO GO SCENT-FREE AND NANON
THINKS ABOUT IT. IT’S EVER WHERE. KIDS AROUND TO WEAR
SCENTED PRODUCTS. TEACHERS CAN SEND KIDS OUT OF THE CLASSROOM
FOR THAT. WHEN WE TURNED 40, THEN I SUDDENLY WASN’T ALLOWED
TO SEND MY KIDS TO SCHOOL WITH PEANUT BUTTER BECAUSE ONE KID
MIGHT GET I CAN SICK. SO WE ADAPT TO OUR CHANGING
ENVIRONMENTS AND SO THIS BILL IS A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. PUT IT WAS ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO
WHEN I TURNED 50 WE STARTED SEEING COMMERCIALS OF ANIMALS ON
BEACHES BEING TRAPPED IN THE 6-PANG PLASTIC WRAP THAT BEER —
THE SIX-PACK PLASTIC WRAP THAT BEER CANS COME IN AND ANIMALS
GETTING CUT OPEN ON THE BEACH AND PLASTIC GUTS FLOWING OUT
EVERYWHERE. THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED. AND ONE
OF THE MOVEMENTS THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS SOMETHING CALLED
BREAK FREE FROM PLASTIC AND IT WAS AN INITIATIVE STARTED BY A
YOUNG GENTLEMAN WHO WENT TO SCHOOL WITH MY SON AND IT WAS
CALLED PROUD TO BE STRAW-FREE. SO IF YOU’VE EVER BEEN IN A
RESTAURANT IN HRM WHERE THEY DON’T OFFER STRAWS
AUTOMATICALLY, THIS YOUNG GENTLEMAN GETS TO TAKE THE
CREDIT FOR THAT. SO THERE’S OVER 140 RESTAURANTS IN THIS
AREA WHO WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY OFFER YOU A STRAW AND THESE ARE
SMALL STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO I’VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS BILL
PERSONALLY AND YOU KNOW HOW OUR PARTY FEELS ABOUT IT ON A CAUCUS
LEVEL BUT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU A FEW OF THE THOUGHTS OF MY
CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THEY’RE THE ONES WHOSE VOICE I REALLY WANT
YOU TO HEAR. THE FIRST IS, BARB, YOU DO REALLY THINK THIS
WILL MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE SCHEME OF
THINGS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FEEL THIS WAY.
OTHERS HAVE SAID I LIKE THAT WE CAN ALL MAKE A LITTLE DIFFERENCE
IF WE ALL MOVE IN THE SAME DIRECTION. THE WORST THING THAT
CAN HAPPEN IS WE’LL HAVE LESS GARBAGE ON THE STREETS AND A
GREENER PLANET AS A RESULT. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD A VERY
SIMILAR CONCEPT IN TERMS OF WHO WAS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR
THIS. I’M NOT SO NAIVE THAT PERSONS IN BUSINESS WILL FOLLOW
THIS, BUT AT LEAST IT WILL GET PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT. AND SO
THEY’RE PUTTING A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THE BUSINESSES WHO
ARE WRAPPING THINGS IN PLASTIC. OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT MY FEAR IS
THAT POLITICIANS WILL USE THIS, WELL, DONE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
ADDRESSING THE PROBLEMS OF ADDRESSING POLLUTION AND THEY
SEE THIS AS A SMALL STEP AND WE DON’T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE
COMPLACENT AFTERWARDS. OTHERS ARE NOT SO SURE THIS IS THE
RIGHT STEP BUT CONTINUING TO SELL SINGLE-USE USE PLASTICS
SEEMS LIKE AN OXY MORE ERROR OR AN I KNOWIC CHOICE AND IF WE’RE
GOING TO BAN THEM, BAN THEM OUTRIGHT. OTHERS HAVE SAID IT’S
A VERY SMALL STEP BUT IT HAS TO START AT THE MANUFACTURING
LEVEL. PEOPLE CAN USE REUSABLE BAGS AND BRING THEM HOME FULL OF
EVERYTHING ENCASED IN PLASTIC WHICH SEE.S TO DEFEAT THE
PURPOSE. SO SOME ARE AFRAID THAT IF YOU BRING IN THE PLASTIC
BAG BAN THAN IT WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE
ACTUALLY WRAPPED IN PLASTIC. SO
WE WANT TO ENSURE THE MANUFACTURERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO
REDUCE THEIR PRODUCTION OF PLASTIC AS WELL. OF COURSE,
OTHERS HAVE SAID I’M HOPING THIS IS A START WITH MORE TO COME.
THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO MORE AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO
DO. THAT AND OF COURSE, IT’S MADE PEOPLE WONDER WHAT IS GOING
TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE AND WE’RE HOPING THAT NECESSITY THE MOTHER
OF INVENTION. WE’VE ALREADY SEEN THAT.
BUT, AGAIN, MANY PEOPLE PEOPLE KEEP SAYING IT’S THE
MANUFACTURERS WHO USE UNNECESSARILY TOO MUCH PLASTIC
IN THEIR PACKAGING IN ORDER TO PROMOTE THINGS AS SOME OF THE
OTHER MEMBERS SAID, THINGS WE DON’T NEED. BUT WHEN YOU PUT IT
IN THE RIGHT PLASTIC PACKAGING, YOU CAN MAKE IT VERY ATTRACTIVE,
ESPECIALLY TO CHILDREN. OTHERS WORRY THIS IS MERELY THE
APPEARANCE OFFING TO SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE
CREDIT FOR AND SO WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE A STRONGER
STEP THAN WHAT THEY’VE DONE NOW.
SO, Mr. SPEAKER, WE ALL WANT TO IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT. WE
ALL WANT TO TAKE STEPS. I’D LOVE IT BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WHEN
THE FRIENDS GO OUT TO DO A CLEAN-UP THAT THERE’S NOTHING TO
CLEAN UP. AND THAT WHEN MY COMMUNITY GOES OUT TO TAKE THEIR
ENVIRONMENT DAYS TO CLEAN UP, AT THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE
THEIR ENERGY TO OTHER THINGS. BUT UNTIL SUCH TIME, WE’LL
ENCOURAGE THIS GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUE TO TAKE STRONG STEPS IN
THE FUTURE AND WITH THAT, I’LL TAKE MY SEAT. THANK YOU.
The Speaker: THANK YOU DEVELOPMENT. I’LL ASK WILL THE
MEMBER TO TABLE THOSE CORRESPONDENCES WITH THE SOURCES
CLEARLY IDENTIFIED ON EACH ONE, THE QUOTES THAT YOU READ. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR DUMB BETTERLAND
NORTH? // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I
STAND TO SPEAK TO BILL 152 AN ACT TO REDUCE THE USE OF HAS
PARTICULAR BAGS AND OTHER SINGLE-USE PLASTICS. I BELIEVE
THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR PUTTING FORTH
LEGISLATIONING TO REDUCE SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS. I
THINK IT WILL ENCOURAGE CONSUMERS TO START REUSING AND
USE RECYCLED BAGS AS WELL. WHILE I’M HAPPY THIS LEGISLATION
IS COMING FORWARD, WE’RE CERTAINLY NOT LEADERS. POUR
MANY JURISDICTIONS ARE MUCH FURTHER ADD OF US. VERMONT, FOR
EXAMPLE, PASSED LEGISLATION LAST YEAR WHICH COMES INTO EFFECT IN
JULY OF 2020 THAT PUT FORTH A BAN ON PLASTIC, PLASTIC STRAWS,
AND STYROFOAM FOOD CONTAINERS. I KNOW FIRST HAND BACK IN 2013,
I OPENED AN ORGANIC LOCAL FOOD STORE IN DOWNTOWN AMHERST AND I
MADE A DECISION BRING OPENED THE STORE NOT TO BRING IN SINGLE-USE
PLASTIC BAGS. I HAD BROWN PAPER BAGS AVAILABLE FOR MY CUSTOMERS
AND COTTON REUSABLE BAGS AND OVER A PERIOD OF A MONTH, I
RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS DAILY FROM CUSTOMERS WHO RUN
ANTICIPATE THAT I DID NOT PROVIDE A PLASTIC BAG. AND SOME
ACTUALLY REFUSED TO SHOP AT MY STORE UNLESS I STARTED PROVIDING
SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS SO IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR CONSUMERS
TO THE ADJUST TO OUR LEGISLATION BUT I THINK IT IS A POSITIVE
STEP FORWARD. A COUPLE OF POSITIVES ALSO THAT
I BELIEVE ABOUT THIS BILL ARE CHARGE I BELIEVE THE PRIVATE
SECTOR ACTUALLY WANT THIS BILL. LARGE RETAIL STORES HAVE BEEN
ASKING FOR THIS LEGISLATION FOR SOME TIME. SECONDLY, I ALSO
BELIEVE THIS WAS THE RIGHT STEP, MAKING IT A PROVINCIAL BILL.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE THIS SESSION THAT PROVINCIAL
GOVERNMENT WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES
TO PUT FORTH THEIR OWN LEGISLATION. I DO BELIEF THE
PROVINCIAL BILL IS THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE.
I THINK FUTURE CONSULTATIONS WITH OUR PRIVATE SECTORS WILL BE
IMPORTANT, INCLUDING THE CANADIAN PLASTICS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THEY CAME TO LAW AMENDMENTS AND
SHARED THEIR VIEW. I DO HAVE A VERY LARGE INDUSTRY PLASTICS
LEADER IN AMHERST. THEY’RE ACTUALLY THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN
CUMBERLAND NORTH OUTSIDE OF OUR HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY. THEY END
PLAY OVER 400 PEOPLE. AND I’VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE
CEO OF THAT COMPANY AND THEY’RE DOING AMAZING WORK. THEY ARE
PLASTICS THAT THEY ARE — THEIR PLASTICS THAT THEY ARE MAKING
ARE EFFICIENT. THEY’RE LEADERS IN THE INDUSTRY AND I DO BELIEVE
IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE INCLUDE INDUSTRY AND PRIVATE SECTOR IN
OUR WORK GOING FORWARD WITH FUTURE LEGISLATION. WE ALL KNOW
THE REPORT SPOKE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE ENGAGE PRIVATE
SECTOR AND THAT ALL OF OUR DECISIONS SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT
GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE SECTOR ARE WORKING TOGETHER. AN
EXAMPLE OF THEIR INDUSTRY LEADERSHIP, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT
THEY PROVIDED AT LAW AMENDMENTS, IT SHARES THAT THEIR
ASSOCIATION, THE CANADIAN PLASTICS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
HAVE A GOAL, A SUSTAINABILITY GOAL FOR BY 2040 THAT 100% OF
THEIR PLASTIC PACKAGING IS REUSED, RECYCLED, OR RECOVERED.
TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE EXPERT MADE THAT I SUPPORT ARE,
ONE, CHRETIENING AN ALL-PARTY COMMITTEE ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND
REVIEW THE CARBON IMPACT OF BILL 152. MY COLLEAGUE FROM
SACKVILLE COBEQUID WAS SHARING EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND THIS LEGISLATURE
AND TWO WEEKS AGO, I HAD THE HONOUR OF ATTENDING A CANADIAN
PARLIAMENTARY ASSOCIATION MEETING IN VICTORIA, B.C. AND IT
WAS ENCOURAGING TO LEARN HOW OTHER LEGISLATURES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND I WAS ENLIGHTENED TO KNOW THAT
NOT ALL LEGISLATURES ARE QUITE AS COMBATIVE MAYBE FOR LACK OF A
BETTER WORD THAN OUR OURS CAN SOMETIMES GET. P.E.I., FOR
EXAMPLE, Mr. SPEAKER, ARE VERY COLLABORATIVE, AND IN FACT, ALL
OF THEIR COMMITTEES, THE OPPOSITION HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING HOW THEIR
LEGISLATURE — SO I DO SUPPORT MORE COLLABORATION IN OUR WORK
AND EVEN THE PLASTICS INDUSTRY ARE RECOMMENDING AN ALL-PARTY
COME ON CLIMATE CHANGE. AND I SUPPORT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THEY MADE WAS TO INTRODUCE 100% LOCALLY
MADE RECYCLABLE REUSABLE BAGS WITH CONTENT THAT CAN BE
RECYCLED LOCALLY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALSO A REALLY GOOD IDEA
AT THAT THEY PUT FORTH. I BELIEVE ALSO, Mr. SPEAKER,
THERE ARE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR FORESTRY
INDUSTRY AS WAD AND PAPER COULD TAKE THE PLACE OF PLASTIC FORKS,
PLASTIC BAGS, PLASTIC STRAWS, SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND I
WOULD LICK TO TABLE A DOCUMENT THAT CBC PUT OUT IN JUNE OF 2019
THAT TALKED ABOUT THE BAN ON SINGLE-USE PLASTICS COULD
ACTUALLY BE A BOON FOR THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY SO I’D LIKE TO
TABLE THAT DOCUMENT. SOME PEOPLE WILL BE UPSET ABOUT
THIS BILL AND SOME PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WELL BECAUSE OF THE
INCONVENIENCE AND — BUT I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ROOT
REDUCING OUR WASTE IS ONE OF THE
SOLUTIONS WE MUST LOOK AT IN ADDRESSING CLIMB CHANGE. AND I
FELT — IT KEPT COMING UP IN MY MIND, I DO WANT TO MENTION ONE
OF MY FIRST, IF NOT PROBABLY MY FIRST MENTOR IN LIVING GREEN AND
IN WITH ENVIRONMENTALISM WAS ACTUALLY MY GRANDMOTHER. SHE
WAS BORN IN 1920. SHE LIVED THROUGH THE PC DEPRESSION POST DEPRESSION ERA
AND SHE WASTED NOTHING. SHE DID NOT HAVE GARBAGE. AND I
REMEMBER HELPING HER WITH BRINGING IN THES FROM IN THE
FALL AND I REMEMBER THAT ALL OF — SHE GOT MILL INCOME BAGS
AND ALL OF THE PLASTIC MILK BAGS SHE WOULD WASH AND HANG TO DRE
AND THEN IN THE FALL — HANG TO DRY AND THEN IN THE FALL, SHE
USED ALL OF THOSE PLASTIC BAGS THAT SHE HAD SAVED ALL YEAR AND
THAT’S WHAT SHE USED TO FREEZE HER VEGETABLES BUT SHE WASTED
NOTHING AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT IT LEARN FROM OUR ELDERS.
YES. [ Applause SO WITH THAT, Mr. SPEAKER, I
WILL SIT AND I DO WANT IT SAY I SUPPORT BILL 152. THANK YOU. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT TO CLOSE THE PLASTIC BAGS REDUCTION
ACT. THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. AND CERTAINLY WANT TO START OFF
BY THANKING ALL MY COLLEAGUES. THIS BILL IS A STEP FORWARD BUT
YOUR VOICES AND I HEARD THE COMMENTS AROUND CHANGING THE
CULTURE PLAYS AS BIG A ROLE IN WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO TODAY AS
JUST WHAT THIS BILL IS, SO I REALLY DO WANT TO THANK
EVERYBODY FOR THEIR COMMENTS. I WON’T BE TOO LENGTHY HERE, BUT
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS IS, AS MOST HAVE SAID, A VERY IMPORTANT
FIRST STEP. IT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE THINK.
IT’S A VERY IMPORTANT DAY FOR NOVA SCOTIANS TODAY. AND IT
CERTAINLY WILL HELP REDUCE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND IN WHAT GOES
INTO OUR LANDFILLS. MILLIONS OF PLASTIC BAGS ARE GOING TO BE
TAKING OUT OF CIRCULATION AND THAT’S AN IMPORTANT FEAT.
BUT, AGAIN, AS I SAID, MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT’S GOING TO
CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE SHOP. I WOULD CHALLENGE ANY PERSON IN
THIS ROOM ALREADY TO THINK THAT THEY’VE BALKED INTO A GROCERY
STORE THE SAME WAY THEY DID A MONTH AGO . THAT’S IMPORTANT.
NOVA SCOTIANS HAVE HOLD US IT’S TIME TO MAKE CHANGE AND THAT’S
WHAT WE’RING TOKING AND WE ARE TAKING THAT NEXT STEP. WE
AGREED WITH THEM AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DAY.
WE ALSO HAVE HEARD FROM, AS IT WAS NOTED, PLASTIC-FREE
LUNENBURG AND THEY’VE ASKED US TO BAN OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS
PLASTIC ITEMS AS CUTLERY, STRAWS, LIDS, CUPS, SINGLE-USE
ITEMS. AND I WILL SAY TO THE HOUSE HERE TODAY THAT WE ARE
READY WHEN THE TIME IS TO MOVE TO THAT NEXT STEP. THERE ARE
SOME NOVA SCOTIANS THAT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THAT NEXT STEP AND
I APPLAUD THEM. SO FOR OTHER JUST SIMPLY ELIMINATING
SINGLE-USE CHECK-OUTING AS WILL BE A MAJOR CHALLENGE. WE KNOW
THAT. SO WE’VE LEFT THE DOOR IN IT LEGISLATION, Mr. SPEAKER,
TO REGULATE DISTRIBUTION OF OTHER SINGLE-USE ITEMS DOWN THE
ROAD. Mr. SPEAKER, WE’VE ALSO HEARD
ABOUT THE NEED TO CHANGE OR CHARGE FOR ALTERNATIVES SO I
THINK THAT’S ONE OF THE BIGGEST SPEAKING POINTS THAT WE’VE HEARD
ON THIS BILL. I HAVE PUT THOUGHT INTO THAT. OUR STAFF
HAVE, OUR CAUCUS HAS, AND THIS BILL DOES NOT INCLUDE A MINIMUM
CHARGE FOR ALTERNATIVE BAGS AND WE DID THAT PURPOSELY AND
THOUGHTFULLY I BELIEVE. BUT LET’S BE FIRM ON THIS, Mr.
SPEAKER. MANY BUSINESSES WILL DO THAT AND THAT’S IMPORTANT TO
KNOW. MANY MY CHOOSE NOT TO OFFER BAGS AT ALL. AND THAT’S A
CHOICE FOR THEM TO MAKE. WE’RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE ALL NOVA
SCOTIANS TO LET RETAILERS KNOW WHAT THEIR PREFERENCES ARE.
JUST A FEW POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IF THAT REGARD IS
MYSELF, I THINK WE SHOULDN’T USE BAGS, PERIOD. I THINK WE SHOULD
TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. WHEN I WALK OUT OF A GROCERY STORE, I
TRY TO JUST GO RIGHT FROM THE CHECK-OUT IN MY CART, OUT TO MY
VEHICLE AND INTO THE TRUNK. WHAT’S WRONG WITH GOING
BAG-FREE? I WOULD CHALLENGE EVERYBODY TO DO THAT. KEEP A
LITTLE CARDBOARD BOX IN THE BACK OF YOUR TRUNK IF YOU WANT TO
CARRY THEM IN. AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MOVE TO THE NEXT
STEP. I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE DEBATABLE PARTS OF THIS BILL IS
AROUND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PLASTIC AND PAPER. WE DO NOT
WANT TO SEE PAPER BAGS USED TO THE EXTENT THAT PLASTIC ARE. BY
NO MEANS WE DO. BUT WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.
ON ANOTHER POINT WITH THE CONSISTENCY THAT WE SEE BETWEEN
THIS BILL WHICH IS THE SECOND BILL IN CANADA, P.E.I. WAS THE
FIRST, IT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING TO LISTEN TO THE INDUSTRY, TO
WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. SO WHEN P.E.I. SET THEIR BILL, THEY DID
HAVE FEES IN IT. NOW, LET’S BE CLEAR. RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE
DOING CONSULTATION ON THOSE FEES SO THOSE FEES MIGHT CHANGE.
THEY MIGHT GO AWAY. WE DON’T KNOW. BUT ONE THING WE HEARD
FROM THE INDUSTRY IS THEY WANTED CONSISTENCY ACROSS LAND CAB.
THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THEM. — ACROSS
ATLANTIC CANADA. SO FOR US TO SET A FEE TODAY AND P.E.I.
CHANGE THEIRS TOMORROW, I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO
LISTEN AND SAY, INDUSTRY, WE’LL LET YOU REGULATE THE PRICE ON
THE BAGS. WE’LL LET YOU BE CONSISTENT. IT’S AN IMPORTANT
PART OF THIS THING. THAT’S THING THAT SHOULDN’T BE LOST IN
THIS BILL .
Mr. SPEAKER, THIS ALSO HELPS US TO CONTINUE TO AMPLIFY A VERY
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT SOME NOVA SCOTIANS HAVE BEEN HAVING
FOR YEARS ABOUT REDUCING THE WASTE AND THE. AS OF PLASTICS
THAT GET INTO OUR LAND FILLS AND WATER WARES IT. WILL HELP US
MOVE FORWARD TO KEEP THIS PROVINCE AS A NATIONAL ERRED
ALTHOUGH. Mr. SPEAKER, WITH THAT, I MOVE THAT BILL 152, AN
ACT TO BAN PLASTIC BAGS DO PASS. The Speaker: THE MOTIONING IS
FOR THIRD READING OF BILL NUMBER 152, THE PLASTIC BAGS REDUCTION
ACT. WILL ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
CONTRARY-MINDED, NAY. MOTION IS CARRIED.
// BILL NUMBER 152 BEETLED AN ACT TO REDUCE THE USE OF PLASTIC
BAGS AND OTHER SINGLE-USE PRODUCTS.
The Speaker: ORDERED THAT THE BILL DO PASS AND THE TITLE BE AS
READ BY THE CLERK. ORDERED THAT THAT THE BILL BE ENGROSSED. THE
HONOURABLE GOVERNMENT HOUSE LEADER.
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL BILL
NUMBER 189, THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY ACT.
The Speaker: NOW CALL BILL NUMBER 189. THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF JUSTICE. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER.
Mr. SPEAKER, I MOVE THAT BILL 189, AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 1,
92 SUPPLEMENT OF THE REVISED STATUTES 1989 THE HOUSE OF
ASSEMBLY ACT BE NOW READ A THIRD TIME.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR QUEENS SHELBURNE.
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I’M HAPPY TO RISE AND SPEAK
BRIEFLY TO THIRD READING OF BILL 189, THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY ACT.
THIS BILL IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THE APPEALS TO THIS BILL
PROVIDE CLARITY. CLARITY TO MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE
ASSEMBLY WHO WISH TO RUN FOR THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, THE
LEGISLATURE IN ANOTHER PROVINCE OR MUNICIPAL OFFICE IN NOVA
SCOTIA THAT THEY MUST RESIGN THEIR SEAT IN THE PROVINCIAL
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY AND PROVIDE NOTICE OF THEIR DESIGNATION
IMMEDIATELY AFTER BEING SELECTED IN A NOMINATION CONTEST OR
OTHERWISE CHOSEN THESE WILL SERVE TO PROTECT MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY WHO CHOOSE TO SEEK OFFICE FROM PERCEIVED OR
POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTERESTS AND ALLOWING THEM TO FOCUS ON
THE WORK THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO DO. Mr. SPEAKER, CITIZENS EXPECT
CLEAR RULES ENSHRINED IN LAW AND THEY EXPECT US TO DO THE JOBS
THAT WE’RE ELECTED TO DO AND THAT IS TO SERVE AND REPRESENT
THEM. THEY DESERVE TO BE REPRESENTED. AND I’LL TAKE THAT
A STEP FURTHER, Mr. SPEAKER IN SAYING I FEEL WHEN AN MLA STEPS
DOWN TO SEEK ELECTION TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT,
BUY EXECUTIVE ORDER WILLS SHOULD BE CALLED WITHIN THEY 0 DAYS SO
CONSTITUENTS TO NOT GO WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. DID, 30 DAYS
IT. IS NOT FAIR TO THE CONSTITUENT IF THAT CONSTITUENCY
TO GO UNREPRESENTED. Mr. SPEAKER. THESE AMENDMENTS
LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND CREATES THE PATH OF EXPECTATIONS
GOING FORTH FOR THE MEMBERS OF THIS HOUSE AND THE ELECTORATE.
Mr. SPEAKER, THE PROGRESS CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS WILL BE
VOTING YES FOR THE BILL. THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER.
The Speaker: THE HOUR. FOR DARTMOUTH SOUTH?
// I’M PLEASED TO RISE AND REGISTER THE NDP’S SUPPORT POUR
THIS FOR
THIS BILL. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND NORTH. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I
JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE FROM QUEENS
SHELBURNE. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE
SPIRIT OF THIS BILL IS SAYING THE RIGHT THING BUT WE ALL KNOW
THAT THERE IS AN ELECTION — THERE’S A BY-ELECTION THAT HAS
NOT BEEN CALLED FOR TRURO BIBLE HILL MILLBROOK SALMON RIVER AND
IT’S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE IN THAT CONSTITUENCY, Mr.
SPEAKER, AND WHILE WE STAND IN SUPPORT THIS BILL, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE PEOPLE OF THAT AREA ARE STILL
NOT REPRESENTED IN THIS HOUSE. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF JUSTICE TO CLOSE THIRD READING OF BILL 189, THE
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY ACT. THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF JUSTICE.
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. Mr. SPEAKER, I MOVE THAT BILL
189, AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 1, 1992 SUPPLEMENT TO THE REVISED
STATUTES HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY ACT TO PASS.
The Speaker: THE MOTION IS FOR THIRD READING OF BILL NUMBER
189, THE HOWLS OF ASSEMBLY ACT. WOULD ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE
MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE. CONTRARY-MINDED, NAY. MOTION IS
CARRIED. // BILL NUMBER 189, ENTITLED AN
ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 1, 1992 SUPPLEMENT OF THE REVISED
STATUTES 1989, THE HOUSE OF SATURDAYS ACT.
The Speaker: ORDERED THAT THE BILL DO PASS. ORDERED THAT THE
BILL BE ENGROSSED. THE HONOURABLE GOVERNMENT HOUSE
LEADER. // WILL YOU PLEASE CALL BILL
NUMBER 192 IT. 192.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER?
// I MOVE BILL NUMBER 192, THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ACT BE NOW
READ FOR A THIRD TIME. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND NORTH. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I
RISE TO SPEAK ON BILL 192, AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 300 OF THE
REVISED STATUTES OF 1989. THE PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS
SUPPORTS THE BILL WHICH MAKES SEVERAL AMENDMENTS IT. IS OUR
UNDERSTANDING THESE CHANGES ARE SUPPORTED BY THE NOVA SCOTIA
FEDERATION OF MUNICIPALITIES AND WERE CHANGES THAT WERE
RECOMMENDED BY THE UNIT IN ELECTIONS OFFICER AFTER A
REVIEW. WE SUPPORT BILL 1 ANYONE 2. THANK YOU, Mr.
SPEAKER. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEED NEEDHAM? // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. WE
ARE IN FAVOUR OF ANY LEGISLATIVE MOVE TO INCREASE THE
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESSES.
HOWEVER, WE’RE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE RIGHT TO VOTE TO PERMANENT RESIDENTS
OF THIS PROVINCE. THE MAYOR OF HALIFAX REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY
AND HIS COLLEAGUES AT THE NSFF
AND HRM COUNCIL HAVE ASKED FOR THIS CHANGE FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS AND THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY GIVEN THAT THE
GOVERNMENT WAS ALREADY LACKING AT THE ACT TO — LOOKING AT THE
ACT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. EACH YEAR ALMOST 6,000 NEW PERMANENT
RESIDENTS COME TO NOVA SCOTIA. AND THEY MAY REMAIN PERMANENT
RESIDENTS AND NOT CANADIAN CITIZENS FOR MANY YEARS. IN
FACT, I WAS OUT SUPPORTING A FEDERAL CAMPAIGN RECENTLY AND I
TALKED TO SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN LIVING IN THE BUILDING I WAS
CANVASSING FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AND HE WAS A PERMANENT
RESIDENT. THAT IS PERMANENT. SO THERE’S NO GOOD REASON GIVEN
THAT PEOPLE WORK AND PAY TAXES AND CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO
OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE NOT INCLUDE THEM IN — AS ELECTORS
AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL WHERE WE KNOW THAT THE WORK OF THAT LEVEL
OF GOVERNMENT IS QUITE SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE
GOVERNING AND FUNDING OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES. SO WITH THOSE
FEW WORDS, I’LL TAKE MY SEAT. THANK YOU. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS FOR THIRD READING OF BILL 192.
THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
// THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Mr. SPEAKER. I APPRECIATE THE
COMMENTS AND I MOVE TO CLOSE DEBATE ON BILL NUMBER 1 ANYONE 2
AND IT DO PASS. SPEKS THE MOTION IS FOR THIRD READING OF
BILL NUMBER 192, THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ACT, WOULD ALL THOSE
IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION PLEASE AAYE. CONTRARY-MINDED NAY. THE
MOTION IS CARRIED. // BILL NUMBER 1 IN ANY EVENT 2,
ENTITLED AN OCTOBER TO AMEND 300 OF THE REVISED STATUTES, THE
MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ACT. The Speaker: ORDERED THAT THE
BILL DO PASS AND THE TITLE BE AS READ BY THE CLERK. ORDERED THAT
THE BILL BE ENGROSSED. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER,
WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL BILL NUMBER 19 THEY, THE MASS SAND
THERAPISTS ENTITLES PROTECTION ACT.
The Speaker: NOW CALL BILL 1 ANYONE 3, THE MASSAGE THERAPISTS
TITLES PROTECTION ACT. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I
MOVE THAT BILL 193 BE NOW READ A THIRD TIME. THANK YOU.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR CUMBERLAND NORTH?
// I HAVE ABOUT AN HOUR’S SPEECH. JUST KIDDING. Mr.
SPEAKER, I RISE TO SPEAK ON BILL 1 ANYONE 3, THE MA SASS THERAPY
PROTECTION ACT. REGISTERED MA SASS THERAPIST ASSESS, PLAN,
TREAT, AND EVALUATE ACUTE, CHRONIC REHAB REHABILITATIVE
DISEASE AND ILLNESS THAT ADDRESS OUR
PHYSICAL, MENTAL, SPIRITUAL, NEEDS AND PREMOAT WELLNESS.
REGISTERED MASSAGE THERAPISTS PROVIDE ETHICAL AND RESPECTFUL
CARE. FOR OVER 20 YEARS, I EMPLOYED NUMEROUS RMTs AND CAN
ATTEST TO THE SKILLS THEY PROVIDE. THE PROGRESS
CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS SUPPORTS BILL 193 AND I ENCOURAGE
EVERYONE NEAR THIS HOUSE TO CALL AND BOOK YOURSELF A THERAPEUTIC
MASSAGE. THANK YOU. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR CAPE BRETON CENTRE. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I,
TOO, AM HAPPY TO RISE TO SAY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT
THE NDP CAUCUS DOES, TOO, SUPPORT THIS BILL AND WE — I
KNOW! I KNOW! THANK YOU.
[ Laughter ] The Speaker: WHAT A DIFFERENCE
A COUPLE OF DAYS MAKES HERE, EH? THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF
HEALTH TO CLOSE BILL NUMBER 193, THIRD READING. THE HONOURABLE
MINISTER OF HEALTH. // THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I
PRESSUREIATE MY COLLEAGUE’S COMMENTS. I THINK MOST PEOPLE
WILL BE SURPRISED AT THE LEVEL OF UNANIMITY — SUPPORT HERE ON
THE TOPIC OF HEALTH CARE. BUT I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT, Mr.
SPEAKER. SO WE’LL CONTINUE FORWARD TOMORROW IF THE SAME
VEIN AND WITH THAT, Mr. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO CLOSE THIRD
READING ON BILL 193. The Speaker: MOTIONING IS FOR
THIRD READING OF BILL NUMBER 1 ANYONE THEY, THE MASSAGE
THERAPIST TITLES PROTECTION ACT. WOULD ALL THOSE IS FAVOUR OF THE
MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE? CONTRARY-MINDED NAY. THE MOTION
IS CARRIED. The Clerk: BILL NUMBER 193
ENTITLED AN ACT TO PROTECT THE TITLES OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE GOVERNMENT HOUSE LEADER?
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL BILL 197,
THE CORPORATIONS REGISTRATION ACT.
The Speaker: WILL NOW CALL BILL 197, THE COOPERATIVE
ASSOCIATIONS ACT AND THE CORPORATIONS REGISTRATION ACT.
THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF SERVICE NOVA SCOTIA.
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. I MOVE THAT BILL NUMBER 197 BE
READ A THIRD TIME. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
HOUSE LEADER FOR THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION.
// YES. The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE
MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM. // I RISE TO CONGRATULATE THE
MINISTER ON SHEPHERDING THREW THIS BILL.
The Speaker: THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF SERVICE NOVA SCOTIA
TO CLOSE THIRD READING OF BILL 197, THE COMPANIES ACT, THE
COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATION ACT, AND THE CORPORATIONS REGISTRATION
ACT. THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF SERVICE NOVA SCOTIA.
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT
FROM MY COLLEAGUES OPPOSITE AND WITH THAT, I MOVE THIRD READING
OF BILL — CLOSE THIRD READING OF BILL 197.
The Speaker: THE MOTION IS FOR THIRD READING OF BILL 197.
WOULD ALL THOSE IS FAVOUR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.
CONTRARY-MINDED, NAY? THE MOTION IS CARRIED.
The Clerk: BILL NUMBER 197 SPITED AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER
81 OF THE RESIDES ARE THE STATUTES OF 1989, THE COMPANIES
ACT, CHAPTER 98 OF THE REVISED STATUTES, THE COOPERATIVE
ASSOCIATIONS ACT, AND CHAPTER 101 OF THE REVISED STATUTES
1989, THE CORPORATIONS REGISTRATION ACT.
The Speaker: ORDERED THAT THE BILL DO PASS THE ENTITLE BE AS
READ BY THE CLERK. ORDERED THAT THE BILL BE ENGROSSED..
// THANK YOU, Mr. SPEAKER. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL BILL
NUMBER 201, THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ACT, THE HRM CHARTER,
AND RESPECTING ON SITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL EQUIPMENT..
[ Please Stand By ]>>HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL
CONCERNS CAN OCCUR FROM SEPTIC SYSTEM FAILURES AND WASTEWATER
CAN BACK UP INTO YOUR YARD AND CONTAMINATE WATER SOURCES.>>THE CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS
SUPPORTS HEALTHY AND UP-TO-DATE MODERN, EFFECTIVE SEPTIC AND
WASTE WATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS. THIS BILL ALLOWS FOR NON
TRADITIONAL FINANCING. THIS DID RAISE A FEW QUESTIONS. PRIVATE
INFRASTRUCTURE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. HISTORICALLY A
PRIVATE HOMEOWNER MAKING HOME IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS SEPTIC
SYSTEMS, FINANCING IS OBTAINED THROUGH A BANK. A BANK
DETERMINES RISK AND ASSUMES LIABILITY. THIS BILL ALLOWS
MUNICIPALITIES TO BE A LENDING AGENCY. SOME QUESTIONS INCLUDE
WHAT WILL THE INTEREST RATES BE. WILL IT BE CONSISTENT OR CHANGE
BASED ON CREDIT RISK SCORES, HOW WILL THESE BORROWED COSTS BE
ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE BOOKS OF MUNICIPALITIES. MUNICIPALITIES
TECHNICALLY CAN ONLY BORROW FROM THE MUNICIPAL FINANCIAL
CORPORATION. WILL THE FINANCIAL CORPORATION BE THE LENDING
AGENCIES. WILL THE MUNICIPALITY BE ONLY A LENDER OF LAST RESORT.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. OUR PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE CAUCUS
SUPPORTS THIS BILL, WE SUPPORT MODERN, EFFECTIVE SEPTIC WATER
TREATMENT SYSTEMS. WE SUPPORT THIS BILL IF IT PERMITS SOME
HOMEOWNERS TO IMPROVE PRIVATE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. IT WILL IMPROVE
PUBLIC HEALTH, POPULATION HEALTH AND INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES. WE
SUPPORT THIS BILL, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
The Speaker: HONOURABLE MEMBER FOR HALIFAX NEEDHAM.
>>MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. WILL
REGISTER CONCERNS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO
SUPPORT LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES WHEN FIGHTING
CLIMATE CHANGE. ALLOW
MUNICIPALITIES TO INVEST IN CLEAN ENERGY AT THE LEVEL OF
HOUSEHOLDS. EVERYONE IN THIS CHAMBER IS AWARE OF BRIDGEWATER
AS AN EXAMPLE AS A MUNICIPALITY SHOWING GREAT LEADERSHIP ON
CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THE N.D.P. CAUCUS HAS ABOUT BILL ON THE
ORDER PAPER TO SUPPORT LOCAL ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE THAT
WOULD GIVE CLEAR AND BROAD AUTHORITY TO MUNICIPALITIES TO
ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. INCLUDING BY CREATING A LOCAL
ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE FUND TO MAKE MONEY AVAILABLE TO
MUNICIPALITIES TO ACCESS CLIMATE CHANGE RELATED PROJECTS. OUR
BILL WOULD COMMIT TO EXPAND MUNICIPALITIES’ ABILITY TO
SUPPORT CLIMATE CHANGE AND MITIGATION THROUGH PACE
PROGRAMS. MAKING SET UP ADMINISTRATION EASIER AND
ADDRESSING ISSUES LIKE THE ACCOUNTING IMPACT ON MUNICIPAL
DEBT. NOW, OF COURSE NOVA SCOTIANS NEED TO BE SUPPORTED TO
UPGRADE SEPTIC SYSTEMS ON THEIR PROPERTY. PAYING BACK A LOAN
THROUGH PROPERTY TAX MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. WE’RE CONCERNED AT
THE LACK OF CONSULTATION WITH MUNICIPALITIES. WE’RE CONCERNED
AT THE ABILITY OF SMALLER MUNICIPAL UNITS TO ADMINISTER
THIS PROGRAM. AND RIGHTLY THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE OF
PACE PROGRAMS. AND SO TAKING PACE PROGRAMS INTO THE AREA OF
SEWAGE TREATMENT WHEN THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR CLEAN ENERGY COULD
POTENTIALLY LIMIT DEEP RETROFITS OF PEOPLE’S HOMES. INSTALLATION
OF CLEAN ENERGY PROJECTS. MUNICIPALITIES ARE LIMITED IN
HOW MUCH DEBT THEY CAN RAISE, WHICH IS GOOD. THAT POTENTIALLY
LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO FINANCE DECARBONIZATION THROUGH THESE
PROGRAMS, AT THIS MOMENT OF A CLIMATE EMERGENCY. WHAT WE
DON’T WANT TO END UP WITH IS SEWAGE COMPETING WITH CLEAN
ENERGY. BOTH ARE NECESSARY AND GOOD AND FOR THE PROVINCE TO
DOWNLOAD, DOWNLOAD RESPONSIBILITY FOR HELPING TO
FINANCE SEWAGE PROGRAMS WITHOUT ACTUALLY PROVIDING THE
ASSISTANCE TO MUNICIPALITIES TO GO FULL STEAM AHEAD ON LOCAL
ACTION ON ON CLIMATE CHANGE MITIGATION WOULD BE A REAL
MISTAKE. WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE DO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION.
AND I GUESS WE JUST REALLY LOOK TO THE GOVERNMENT TO DEMONSTRATE
ITS LEADERSHIP BY WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES TO MAKE SURE
THERE ARE NOT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AS A RESULT OF THIS
BILL. [APPLAUSE]
The Speaker: RECOGNIZE THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL
AFFAIRS TO CLOSE READING OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ACT AND
MUNICIPALITY CHARTER, RESPECTING ON SITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL
EQUIPMENT. THE HONOURABLE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS.
>>THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES IN
THE HOUSE FOR THEIR COMMENTS. I MOVE TO CLOSE THIRD READING OF
BILL 201. The Speaker: THIRD REAL
ESTATING OF BILL 201, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ACT, THE HALIFAX
REGION MUNICIPALITY CHARTER AN ACT TO AMEND RESPECTING ON SITE
SEWAGE DISPOSAL EQUIPMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION
SAY “AYE.”>>AYE.
The Speaker: CONTRARY MINDED “NAY.” MOTION IS CARRIED.
>>BILL 201, CHAPTER 18, THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ACT AND
CHAPTER 39 OF THE ACTS OF 2008, HALIFAX REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY
CHARTER RESPECTING ON SITE SEWAGE DISPOSAL.
The Speaker: THE PASS AND TITLE AS READ BY THE CLERK. THE
ORDER BE ENGROSSED. HONOURABLE DEPUTY HOUSE LEADER.
>>THAT CONCLUDES GOVERNMENT BUSINESS FOR TODAY. I MOVE THE
HOUSE NOW DO RISE TO MEET AGAIN TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 30
OCTOBER 30th, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9:00 A.M. AND
10:00 P.M. FOLLOWING THE DAILY ROUTINE AND QUESTION PERIOD,
WE’LL MOVE TO OPPOSITION BUSINESS WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED
BY THE HOUSE LEADERS, OFFICIAL OPPOSITION MOMENTARILY AND
FOLLOWING THAT, GOVERNMENT BUSINESS WILL INCLUDE THIRD
READING ON PUBLIC BILLS 180, 204 AND 213, PRIVATE BILLS, THIRD
READING OF PRIVATE BILLS, 183 AND 195.
The Speaker: THE HONOUR OBL HOUSEABLE.
>>WE’LL CALL NOTICES OF MOTION. NUMBER 18 AND 853. WE’LL ALSO
BE CALLING BILL NUMBER 217, AN ACT TO AMEND THE LIQUOR CONTROL
ACT. THE FIRST TWO RESOLUTIONS WE DEBATED FOR 15 MINUTES EACH.
THE BILL DEBATED FOR TEN MINUTES EACH FOR CLARIFICATION. THANK
YOU. The Speaker: MOTION IS FOR
THE HOUSE TO ADJOURN TO RISE AGAIN TOMORROW, WEDNESDAY,
OCTOBER 30th, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9:00 A.M. AND
10:00 P.M. WOULD ALL IN FAVOUR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.
>>AYE. The Speaker: CONTRARY MINDED
“NAY.” THE MOTION CAN CARRIED. THE HOUSE STANDS ADJOURNED UNTIL
TOMORROW AT 9:00 A.M.

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